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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 10 Nov 1993

Vol. 435 No. 7

Adjournment Debate. - Health Service Psychologists.

Thank you, a Cheann Comhairle, for the opportunity to raise on the Adjournment the negotiations between the Department of Health and psychologists in the health services regarding pay and the threat of industrial action. I thank the Minister who has come to the House to reply to the debate.

In 1974 the Labour Court established a pay link between psychologists employed by the Department of Education and the Department of Health. Fourteen years later further confirmation of this pay link was established in an arbitration award. In effect, this meant that subsequent pay increases given to psychologists employed by the Department of Education applied automatically to those employed by the Department of Health and it was not necessary to submit a specific claim to have those increases paid. However, this did not happen in relation to a pay increase of 15 per cent which was paid in three phases during the period December 1986, December 1987 and July 1988. It did not apply to a further 16 per cent increase which was paid also in three phases during the period May 1991, March 1992 and September 1992. I am not an expert on industrial procedures but it has been suggested that psychologists in the health services who are involved in this case are making a new claim. This is a ludicrous position and makes a complete laugh of industrial procedures.

I am aware that psychologists in the health boards have officer status under the boards, while psychologists in the Department of Education are permanent civil servants. While conciliation and arbitration procedures for those two groups are similar they are progressed in different arenas. I am also aware that under Civil Service procedures, psychologists as professional employees in the Department of Education have established a pay relationship with inspector grades in that Department. Those facts cannot be allowed as reasons for refusing psychologists their fair pay.

Psychologists in the health services have made four salary claims since 1974. Their first claim was dealt with by the Labour Court and subsequent claims by the conciliation and arbitration scheme. It is crystal clear that the findings from those claims established a pay relationship between psychologists working in the Department of Health and those working in the Department of Education. It is also clear that since pay increases were granted to psychologists in the Department of Education from 1988, the established pay relationship has not been honoured.

Despite the views commonly held throughout the country psychologists do not earn a fortune. When one considers the amount of time, money and energy spent educating and training psychologists and the basic salary of only £15,000, is it any wonder that so many psychologist posts remain vacant? For most psychologists it is more lucrative to go abroad to work.

Psychologists in the health services provide an important service and as society changes their professional skills will be sought more and more. I trust that the importance of this service will be fully recognised, that negotiations will be recommenced and a satisfactory solution found.

I understand the employers have offered partial reinstatement of the agreed relationship from 1 January next year. I am aware the Minister made a number of statements in this regard and I ask him to reconsider that position. Four meetings have taken place between the parties, the local government staff negotiation boards and IMPACT, but unfortunately negotiations have broken down. I understand another strike looms in the health services today and that simply cannot be allowed happen. Psychologists in the health services provide assistance to the most vulnerable and abused in our society and every effort must be made to allow their professional services continue.

I have dealt with the background to this dispute on a number of occasions in the House. It was dealt with on the Adjournment on 24 June and during Question Time on 6 October. I am glad to have the opportunity again to update the Deputy and the House on the position. As I have mentioned on these previous occasions, there is a long and complex history of pay relationships between psychologists employed by health boards and psychologists working in the Department of Education.

Both groups pursue claims for increases in pay or improvements in conditions through their respective conciliation and arbitration schemes. Under the Civil Service conciliation and arbitration scheme, psychologists in the Department of Education have established a relationship with inspectors in that Department. The last two awards to inspectors in the Department of Education were passed on to psychologists in the education system. Psychologists in health boards made no claim under the local government and health service conciliation and arbitration scheme to have either award passed on to them.

The consequent gap in pay which had opened up between the two groups was discovered when the health board psychologists lodged a pay claim in 1992. While I am precluded from making any comments on the merits or otherwise of the claim, I have to point out that the responsibility for monitoring and advancing the pay position of any group rests with the people concerned and their trade union representatives. In the absence of a claim from psychologists for either maintaining or breaking a pay relationship with any other group, health service management could not simply automatically adjust the pay of psychologists.

When discussions were held on the new claim the management side agreed in principle to full restoration, without phasing, from 1 January 1994, of the pay relationship established in 1974 with the Department of Education scales. This would give an immediate pay increase of approximately 25 per cent to health board psychologists from 1 January, but this offer was rejected by the staff. As there is now no dispute on the issue of the appropriate rate, I understand that the management and union sides are considering referring to a third party the question of the effective date for the restoration of parity. In the circumstances, it would be inappropriate for me to make further comment. Instead, I will allow the normal industrial relations procedures to deal with this issue and I hope and expect that there will be no question of industrial action until these procedures are fully exhausted. I assure the Deputy and the House that I will personally continue to monitor the position.

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