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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 5 May 1994

Vol. 442 No. 4

Adjournment Debate. - Rathmines (Dublin) Crime Levels.

There has been a serious escalation in the level of crime in Rathmines, Dublin. A recent letter which I received from a trader in the area stated:

We are approaching in Rathmines an almost complete breakdown of law and order. Burglaries and housebreaking are rampant. Criminals are released on bail to go out and commit more crime. In Rathmines for the first three months of the year we have already exceeded the total crime rate for 1993. In Rathmines most of the shops have been broken into at least once — many of them several times. There is very little physical police presence on the street. The stock answer is that there is a shortage of manpower. Can the law not be changed? Can we have more policemen? Is it a problem of management?

Those are the questions that a trader in the Rathmines area has asked because of the level of crime he and his colleagues are experiencing in the area. I cite that letter to illustrate to the Minister the depth of feeling and the concern being expressed not only by traders in Rathmines but also by residents. The problem is continuously raised with me. A letter from another resident in my constituency states:

Our road has become the target for a systematic series of burglaries. Four houses have been burgled in the last few weeks. Most of the houses on this road have burglar alarms. We have set up a Neighbourhood Watch scheme for the road. Effectively, as citizens we have taken all the appropriate steps to protect the road — short of forming vigilante patrols.

One would not like to see this position developing but it is interesting that a law-abiding citizen makes this statement. This resident asks for additional patrols, even for a temporary period, to counter crime and to make resources available so that alarm calls can be promptly attended to.

I pay tribute to the efforts which the gardaí are making in the area to deal with the problem. My impression is that they are under-resourced to deal with the problem in the area and are doing as much as possible with mobile patrols, both uniformed and plain clothes gardaí, but it is difficult to do that and make it compatible with the many other demands on their resources.

In the case of the citizen whom I mentioned, the criminal charged with crime, a drug addict, was granted bail and committed further crimes on the same road while on bail awaiting trial. How can the residents on that road have confidence in the system in light of this experience?

The Minister should consider the implications of this position which is common throughout the city and the Bill put forward by the Fine Gael spokesperson on Justice, Deputy Gay Mitchell, in relation to bail. A recent editorial in a Garda magazine states:

Bail for serious crimes for the current breed of organised criminals is simply an opportunity to build up a nest-egg for the time when they come out of prison.

Detaining persons while on bail will require additional prison space, but this issue must be considered in the context of prison reform. The Minister should consider the recently published Fine Gael document on prison reform and give it priority. We do not have a national bureau of crime statistics, so precise data in relation to offences committed while on bail is not available and this should be addressed. It is critical that a law-abiding community should feel protected. There is no freedom if people do not experience personal safety. This is especially true for the vulnerable members of our community, such as the elderly, who feel imprisoned in their homes in Rathmines. I know of one elderly lady who has been burgled eight times over a number of years.

I have passed to the Minister a letter another constituent wrote to me. It states:

I wish to inform you that as a result of mugging and handbag snatching I have at my own expense collected 1,032 names and addresses in a petition for greater policing in the suburbs.

She went on to state her concern about the collapse of law and order and her vulnerable position. The Minister should analyse the crime trend in the Rathmines area on an ongoing basis. I would like to know the results of such an analysis. Will any of the new Garda recruits be deployed in this area? Have civilian staff been recruited to release gardaí from administrative duties to outdoor duties? Is it intended to install closed circuit television in this area or will that facility be confined to the city centre?

The results of a recent crime survey undertaken by Fine Gael in the Rathmines, Rathgar, Donnybrook, Sandymount, Ballsbridge and Ranelagh areas revealed 60 per cent of respondents or someone in their home, had been a victim of crime in recent years, with some households experiencing more than one crime during that time. My car window was smashed on two occasions while stopped at traffic lights in the past two years. In that survey many people made the important point that they considered they were not kept informed by the Garda of the progress of cases which had come to the attention of the Garda and only 10 per cent knew of charges made. I am not blaming the Garda for this position as it is a matter of resources. However, if people are to have confidence in the Garda they need to know they are responding to such cases and the details of the response.

The question of truancy is a critical issue and it is the high road to delinquency. It is regrettable that a national programme to deal with it has not been put in place. The 1908 legislation needs to be updated. I hope it will come before the Dáil in the near future. I look forward to the Minister's response to the issues I have raised.

Wexford): I thank Deputy Frances Fitzgerald for raising this issue. The Minister for Justice is, of course, concerned at any level of crime in Rathmines or indeed in any part of the country and I can assure the Deputy that the Minister, with the full backing of the Government, is committed to dealing with the problem. Before dealing specifically with the Rathmines area it is necessary to deal with the general issue of crime, as it affects our society.

We are all aware that crime is, unfortunately, an unpleasant aspect of modern life throughout most countries in the world. It would be misleading and unfair to suggest that the crime situation in Ireland is as bad as, or indeed worse than, many of our European neighbours, many of whom have far greater resources available to them to deal with the problem.

It is also misleading to suggest that the solution to crime is simply a matter of pouring more and more resources into the law and order system. Crime in modern day society is a broad and complex issue. Extra resources for the law and order system, on their own, will not provide all the answers. However, many Deputies will be aware that the operational strength of the Garda Síochána — that is the number of gardaí engaged on policing duties — is now at its highest level ever. In addition, this House will be aware of the law and order package which the Minister for Justice announced last December, which amounts to the biggest initiative by a Government against crime for many years. The package contains measures which reflect the Government's commitment to maintaining the strength of the force while at the same time reflecting the realisation that the response to crime must be a considered and comprehensive one. The House will also be aware of the various criminal law measures which the Minister for Justice has implemented since taking office and which are playing an essential part in the Government's heightened campaign against crime.

I would now like to turn specifically to Deputy Fitzgerald's concern at crime in the Rathmines area. A number of measures have been taken by the Garda authorities to deal with crime in the area including closer co-ordination and use of foot and mobile patrols and increased targeting of Garda resources to meet specific anti-crime needs in particular areas. The role to be played by the community is, of course, also vital. In this respect, the Garda authorities are continuing to promote the Neighbourhood Watch programme which encourages the community to be vigilant to the danger of crime, to work closely with the Garda and to take appropriate measures to protect their homes and their property. There are now 39 neighbourhood watch schemes in the Rathmines area. In addition, I am informed that the number of community police has been increased significantly in the last year and that they keep in regular contact with neighbourhood groups and visit victims of crime, particularly of burglary and robbery, to discuss the situation with them and offer crime prevention advice. The Minister has been assured by the Garda authorities that they will take any further appropriate measures that may be necessary to deal with problems in the area.

In relation to manpower levels, the Garda authorities, who are responsible for the detailed allocation of Garda manpower to individual areas, have informed the Minister for Justice that the current Garda strength at Rathmines station is 74. The Garda are satisfied that the current policing arrangements for the Rathmines area are adequate to meet the needs of the area, but they are keeping the situation under continuing review.

The Minister recently received a letter from Deputy Fitzgerald in relation to specific incidents in the Rathmines and adjoining areas. The Minister has now received a report from the Garda authorities in relation to these and will be responding in detail to the Deputy within the next few days. I do not, therefore, propose to deal with those issues now.

In conclusion, the Minister for Justice recently attended a seminar on crime in the south inner city, including the Rathmines area, organised by Deputy Eoin Ryan. This was a very well attended seminar and the Minister listened and responded to a large number of contributions from the floor. She was advised of the community's concerns about crime and undertook to take action in a number of specific areas in response to these.

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