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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 1 Mar 1995

Vol. 449 No. 8

Adjournment Debate. - Rush (Dublin) Church Renovation.

Ba mhaith liom ar dtús mo bhuíochas a ghabháil leis an Aire as ucht glacadh leis an gcuireadh anocht a bheith páirteach sa díospóireacht phráinneach seo faoin eaglais Chaitliceach is sine ó aimsir na bPéindlíthe sa chontae agamsa.

Sa cheist a chuir mé d'iarr mé ar an Aire cuairt a thabhairt dá bhféadfadh sé ar an bhfoirgneamh stairiúil seo i Ros Eo i gceartlár Fhine Gall. Tuigim gur thug clár reachtaire an Aire cuairt ar Ros Eo tráth an ama seo anuraidh. Ach d'fheicfí an t-uafás oibre curtha i gcrích ó shin da dtabharfaí cuairt anois ar Ionad Cultúrdha Réigiúnda Saint Maur. Ar son coiste St. Maur's Trust Limited impím ar an Aire cuairt a thabhairt ar St. Maur's go luath chun an éacht oibre a fheiceáil, ag sabháil an fhoirgnimh thabhachtaigh seo.

St. Maur's Church is the last major building in the Rush area left standing after the demolition of Kenure House and many thatched houses in recent years. As such St. Maur's has great local importance as well as being the earliest example of a penal Catholic church in the Fingal area. This fine building began as a thatched chapel in 1730 and assumed most of its present structure in 1760. Recognising their responsibility to this and future generations, the people of Rush formed a trust to set about giving the building, no longer used as a church, a secure future and a new lease of life.

Both the size and architectural merit of St. Maur's make it an ideal venue for many cultural pursuits. Visiting theatrical and musical companies would be well suited to this historical venue, which could be used for exhibitions. Many requests have been received already by the trust to make St. Maur's available for musical and choral recitals. The committee, however, cannot allow the venue to be used until such essentials as emergency lighting are installed. The spire also needs to be reinstated, but a debt to suppliers and others, including a bank, stands at £20,000.

Such is the goodwill in Rush towards the project that between £7,000 and £8,000 a year has been and continues to be raised, but the daunting task of renovating St. Maur's is estimated to cost £200,000. As things stand a mere £30,000 would not just clear the debt which threatens to bankrupt the project, it would after ten years of voluntary community effort, put this unique project on a safe and sustainable footing, able to earn an income, promote the arts and pay for continued maintenance and development of this fine and unique building.

Last year the Minister, when visiting St. Maur's, requested a full estimate of outstanding work. The estimate, to include various improvements, came to around £90,000. However, £30,000 would be sufficient to save the project from bankruptcy, and this is the basic message for the Minister this evening. Applications for grant assistance are with the National Heritage Council since October 1994, and with the Arts Council since before that. Fingal County Council originally gave £15,000 in grant assistance while the Church authorities gave £40,000. The project has huge potential for promoting the various aspects of life and well-being which the Minister promotes so well in other areas, as a potential joint venture between St. Maur's Trust Limited, the Arts Council and the arts department of Fingal County Council. I now call on the Minister to play his part and, in so doing, save this wonderfully unique project from bankruptcy and Stubbs Gazette.

Tá mé buíoch den Teachta as ucht an cheist seo a ardú. Ba mhaith liom ar an gcéad dul síos a rá gurb é an fáth gur thug mo chlár reachtaire cuairt ar Ros Eo ná gur theastaigh uaidh a fháil amach go díreach cad a bhí ar siúl. Rud eile gur mhaith liom a shoiléiriú ná nach dteastaíonn uaim cuairt a thabhairt ar shuíomh gach iarratais a thagann isteach go dtí an Chomhairle Oidhreachta neamhspleach díomsa. Bheadh an Teachta i measc na ndaoine eile a thógadh orm é dá gcuirfinn mo ladhar isteach ar an gComhairle Ealaíon nó ar an gComhairle Oidhreachta atá neamhspleach díom faoi na hAchtanna.

I thank Deputy Trevor Sargent for drawing our attention to this project. It was because my programme manager, on my behalf, wanted to be of assistance, that he visited St. Maur's. I am well aware of the history that surrounds the church and of the circumstances. However, I would like to clarify matters this evening.

An application for grant assistance from the National Heritage Council was originally made by St. Maur's Trust in March 1989. The application was in respect of developing the former St. Maur's Parish Church at Rush for use as a major regional cultural auditorium while keeping the church and its artefacts intact. The total cost envisaged was £200,000, and the application for grant assistance was for £120,000.

In March 1991 a further application was submitted to the council by different members of St. Maur's Trust to those who had made the first application.The estimated cost of the project on this occasion as £110,000 and the application was for a grant of £55,000.

In July 1991 the National Heritage Council wrote to St. Maur's Trust informing it that the application had been considered in detail, but because of the large number of applications received and the limited funds available only a relatively small proportion of projects were being offered grant assistance.The Deputy and the House will appreciate this was quite some time before I assumed responsibility for the Department of Arts, Culture and the Gaeltacht.

A further approach was made by St. Maur's Trust in a letter to the Heritage Council in November 1992. It was informed that as the proposed project had not altered substantially since the original application in 1989, the council was not in a position to reconsider it. That also was prior to my holding my present position.

The latest application was received at the end of October 1994. The estimated cost of the project is now stated at £200,000, and the application was for a grant of £60,000. I understand this application is currently under consideration by the council. It will be considered first by the architectural subcommittee of the council and then by the full council. They have requested further information regarding the proposed works to enable them to come to a decision in the matter as soon as possible. I understand that the latest request for information is in relation to the costings associated with the spire and the railings. As soon as that information is available it can be considered by the Heritage Council.

It is entirely a matter for the Heritage Council to recommend whether funding should be made available for a particular project. It is entirely independent in this regard and I do not intervene in its decisions. The Deputy would be among those who, I am sure, would want to support the propriety of my not intervening in bodies statutorily independent from me, such as, the Arts Council and the Heritage Council. However, I will be glad to bring the request for expedition in this matter and the circumstances to the attention of the Heritage Council.

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