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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 4 Oct 1995

Vol. 456 No. 4

Private Members' Business. - Community Employment Schemes.

Ba mhaith liom buíochas a ghlacadh leis an Aire Stáit as ucht teacht isteach agus éisteacht liom tráthnóna.

As the Minister of State is aware, community employment schemes are one of the most flexible ways in which unemployed people have been given a chance to do gainful work. In rural areas in particular, much useful work has been carried out under these schemes. Of course useful work was also undertaken in urban areas but people living in rural areas have a particular affinity with these schemes. That might be because in rural areas the work tends to be carried out in the heart of the community and its benefits are immediately obvious to the workers and the general public.

Over the past number of years, particularly during the time when Deputy O'Rourke was Minister of State at the Department of Enterprise and Employment, there had been a relaxing of the regulations in relation to these schemes and their development. For example, the age limit was reduced from 25 to 21 years and the idea of roll over schemes of two and three years was introduced. That resulted in a continuity of work for many types of workers which ensured that these schemes were more effective in the long term.

In view of the persistent unemployment problem and the stated objective of many Government Ministers to give people gainful work, it was a major surprise when regulations were enforced recently — they always existed but were never enforced — which meant that only 25 per cent of workers on a community employment scheme could be re-employed on any extension of that or any other scheme commencing in the following six months.

In the past number of weeks I have been inundated with calls from various organisers of community employment schemes in my constituency who have come up against this problem for the first time. I accept that priority should be given to new people anxious to participate in community employment schemes but the Minister is operating a scheme of cutbacks by stealth.

A number of major problems arise out of the Minister's actions. First, in some of the more depopulated rural areas of the west coast and the islands, it will now be impossible to get the full quota of workers permitted on various community employment schemes because of this rule. A community employment scheme involving 30 workers has just been completed in my area but, because of the Minister's regulation, it is now proving impossible to organise a scheme of even 24 workers. At the same time, almost all the workers on the previous scheme are anxious to continue working on the new scheme when it commences.

Second, participants on community schemes in places such as schools who may have worked as classroom assistants, caretakers, cleaners, secretaries, etc., are being laid off despite the fact that they have skills not replicated in their communities. Classroom assistants working with handicapped children, for example, face a particular problem because they may have built up a bond with those children.

Third, a community employment scheme lasts for one year but because people only work either half a week each week or on a week on week off basis, the number of weeks worked in a year amounts to only 26. As a consequence, workers are only becoming familiar with the work in hand when the scheme comes to an end. Constantly rotating large numbers of workers after a period of only 26 weeks can cause difficulty, particularly in jobs where special skills are required.

Fourth, because of the requirement that priority be given to workers over 45 years of age and that only 25 per cent can be retained on a scheme, a person not yet 45 years of age does not have much chance of getting two years' consecutive work on a community employment scheme. I call on the Minister to relax this regulation, which has never been fully implemented until this year, and to ensure that those people who want to work can do so.

Too often in the past, it was said that people on the dole were not willing to work. Now that we have proved people are willing to work when work is made available, and that they work effectively, the Minister is cutting the ground from under them.

When one takes account of the social effect of giving people the dignity of work and its effects on family life, it can truly be said that community employment is good value for money. Any cutbacks in community employment schemes must be regretted. I call on the Minister to ensure that people who want to participate in community employment schemes and who fulfil the basic unemployment conditions will be facilitated.

Arís ba mhaith liom buíochas a ghabháil leis an Aire Stáit. Beidh mé ag súil — ó tharla gurb é an tAire Stáit é féin atá ann agus fhios aige faoi mo dhearcadh ar chúrsaí oibre — le freagra dearfach uaidh.

I am grateful to Deputy Ó Cuív for raising this matter although I think there is some misunderstanding as to the operation of the scheme and its purpose.

Community employment is a part-time work programme for the unemployed. It is a practical and focused way of getting people back into the active labour force while, at the same time, achieving valuable work in the local communities. Community employment presents local communities with an opportunity to tackle and address the issue of social exclusion and the reality of unemployment. It is designed to provide part-time employment opportunities for long term unemployed workers and others at risk of becoming long term unemployed; to enable a wide range of voluntary and statutory organisations to employ staff and undertake a variety of socially valuable work in local communities; and to increase workers' personal development, improve their future job prospects and deliver economic and social benefits to the community by contributing to local development.

Half the number of all persons unemployed have been unemployed for more than one year. The percentage of persons long term unemployed has steadily increased in recent years. That figure is higher for persons over 45 years of age and research has indicated that it is much more difficult for such persons to obtain employment. The longer a person remains unemployed the more difficult it will be to find employment. Many such people also face other disadvantages, such as low education qualifications and skills. There is also a concentration of long term unemployed persons in certain communities in unemployment black spots. Community employment provides a vehicle for these persons to undertake worth-while work, while providing valuable work experience and learning new skills. It provides an opportunity to regain their self esteem and dignity and can also act as a valuable support in tackling the problems of multiple deprivation in unemployment black spots.

Community employment was launched in April 1994. It replaced two previous initiatives, namely, the social employment scheme and the pilot community employment development programme. It was built on the strengths of these initiatives and designed to address the weakness identified. It is designed to improve the development opportunities for workers and to enhance the quality of work undertaken. Its success depends on the ability of local groups to identify work that needs to be done and to manage that work. Community employment is an important resource to local development initiatives. It allows local groups to manage and control resources necessary to achieve objectives that the group has identified. These objectives can be in a wide range of sectors from the arts to education, to the environment.

Local groups which seek resources under community employment are referred to as project sponsors. FÁS receives applications for support from sponsors and, having obtained the relevant trade union approval, provides financial support for the employment of workers, the purchase of materials, the employment of a supervisor and the provision of training for workers. Each project must respond to an identified community need and help develop the skills of workers. Each worker is employed by the sponsor and must work an average of 39 hours per fortnight.

Projects are of variable sizes with some employing three or four workers and others employing 11 or more workers. To advance the objective of local development and to provide a broader range of work options for individual workers FÁS, throughout 1994, encouraged the amalgamation of small projects. To be eligible, as Deputy Ó Cuív said, one can be of any age and in receipt of unemployment benefit for over one year; of any age and in receipt of lone parent's allowance for over one year; of 21 years of age or over and in receipt of unemployment assistance or referred by the National Rehabilitation Board. To make up the qualifying requirement one can combine a period in receipt of the above payments with a period on a recognised training or employment programme. Participation is voluntary and no unemployed person can be forced under the terms of community employment to work on a specific project.

In reviewing the weaknesses and limitations of former schemes, a key point emerging was the fact that participation on the former social employment scheme was limited to 12 months. With the introduction of community employment, provision has been made for flexibility in relation to duration so that participants can, under certain defined circumstances, be re-engaged immediately by sponsors for up to a further 12 months. The primary purpose was to facilitate participants who required further specific development in terms of progression so that their subsequent employment prospects would be further strengthened at the end of their second year on the programme.

Re-engagement of participants may also occur where a suitable replacement cannot be found for a participant, despite the best efforts of sponsors and FÁS. In addition, participants who are over 45 years of age and unemployed for more than three years may now participate for up to three years on a project, subject to the availability of places locally.

Therefore, far from being a restriction in the regulations on the schemes, as implied in Deputy Ó Cuív's statement, these provisions — in community employment — provide increased flexibility for the first time taking account of the needs of participants and sponsors. The provision for re-engagement is in line with the Government's concern to bring greater flexibility into the programme and specifically to provide progression opportunities for participants, many of whom would otherwise return to the live register.

In addition to the provision for participants over 45 years of age, as a norm up to 25 per cent of community employment places nationally may be used by FÁS for second year opportunities. The limit on the scale of re-engagement possible is imposed in order to ensure a balance between providing second year opportunities in specific cases and the primary need to provide as many opportunities as possible each year to new participants within a limited budget. The continuous review and development of employment options for the long-term unemployed is a central policy concern of this Government.

The work of the task force on long-term unemployment set up in 1993 has already led to the announcement of new local employment service arrangements in 14 pilot areas. That task force is now working on its second report which specifically concerns a review of employment options for the long term unemployed. In that context the strengthening of progression options is a central policy concern. The task force will examine how the existing employment options, including community employment, can be further strengthened so that participants can be brought back into the main stream labour market. The second report of the task force is expected at the end of this year.

Community employment has several significant improved features compared with its predecessor. These include: wider eligibility criterion for participants and retention of secondary benefits and development modules for participants. Some 26,000 participants are undertaking such development modules. A supervisory development programme has been devised under which some 1,200 supervisors have progressed. Certain participants are able to stay on community employment for up to two to three years compared with one year on the social employment scheme. Community employment projects may be approved for up to two to three years in local development areas compared with one year on the social employment scheme. Annual agreements on the community employment provision with local partnership areas — higher supervision grants and higher levels of material grants — have been introduced in order to support economic and social activity in these disadvantaged areas.

The Dáil adjourned at 9.30 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 5 October 1995.

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