We proceed to the business of the House proper.
Order of Business (Resumed).
On a point of information, you said, Sir, you would come to a conclusion on the matter of the advertisement, or no advertisement. I have here a document——
Deputy Andrews, the matter does not arise now. There is a substantive motion before the House. Doubtless, the Deputy will avail of an opportunity of speaking on that motion. The Committee on Procedure and Privileges is also seized of the matter. It does not arise now.
Well, Sir——
Deputy Andrews, I must ask you to desist from any further reference to the matter.
I am resisting; you can take it that I am resisting Sir.
Persisting.
Thank you, Deputy, please resume your seat.
All I am seeking to do, Sir——
Please resume your seat, Deputy Andrews.
Sir, I do not want to be thrown out and I have to speak in the budget debate.
I have always known the Deputy to be fair-minded in such matters. I must now ask him finally to resume his seat.
May I ask you, Sir, for permission to put this on the table of the House for the delectation of the Chair in coming to his decision as to whether this is an advertisement?
I need no advice from you, Deputy, in respect of this matter. We know how the matter is proceeding. Let it proceed in accordance with the rules of this House.
Sir, I am being helpful to the House.
Deputy Andrews, I am asking you for the last time to resume your seat.
I have been a Member of this House for 31 years. Quite honestly, I have never seen anything like the abuse of this House by the Minister for Social Welfare, Deputy De Rossa, this morning.
What about the beef tribunal?
(Interruptions.)
I am now proceeding to item No. 9 — Financial Motions by the Minister for Finance— on the Order Paper. I see Deputy O'Malley offering.
Sir, when is an advertisement not an advertisement?
(Interruptions.)
I notice the Minister for Social Welfare has found his voice for a change.
When is an advertisement not an advertisement?
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The Minister for Social Welfare is a liar.
(Interruptions.)
Sir, on a point of order, Deputy Walsh should withdraw that remark; he must withdraw that remark.
The Minister for Social Welfare said the same thing of the bishop.
(Interruptions.)
A Cheann Comhairle, I insist that Deputy Joe Walsh withdraw that remark.
There was such a commotion in the House I did not hear the remark. I am calling Deputy O'Malley.
Everybody on this side of the House heard him say I am a liar.
I have said, and I am fearless in these matters, I heard no so such remark, Minister.
Sir, everybody on this side of the House heard him say I am a liar.
I am calling Deputy O'Malley.
May I inquire of you, Sir——
(Interruptions.)
You are a pathetic bunch of liars.
Taoiseach De Rossa, sit down; Taoiseach De Rossa, resume your seat.
Sir, that man opposite, the cause of the beef tribunal, accused me of being a liar. I intend taking this to the Committee on Procedure and Privileges.
(Interruptions.)
Deputy Eoin Ryan does not have a single political idea in his head, he is pathetic; Daddy's boy.
I must say I have not observed such gross disorder in this House for a very considerable length of time. If it persists, I will have no option but to adjourn our proceedings.
(Interruptions.)
What about the beef tribunal?
Ceausescu, the Minister for Social Welfare, has been found out.
Ceausescu's pal.
Of the 166 Members, Deputy Joe Walsh is the last who should make such an allegation.
Unless these interruptions cease forthwith I will have no option but to suspend the sitting.
(Interruptions.)
I have no option but to suspend the sitting for 15 minutes.
Sitting suspended at 11.7 a.m. and resumed at 11.22 a.m.