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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 23 May 1996

Vol. 465 No. 8

Adjournment Debate. - Drugs Problem.

I want to express my utter dissatisfaction and frustration at trying to raise this important matter of law enforcement measures to combat the drugs problem. I have had this request for the Adjournment debate before the Ceann Comhairle for eight weeks which must be an all time record. It is ironic I have had to wait eight weeks to raise the matter and get a response from a Minister as it seems the Ministers responsible for this area do not deem it important enough to come into the Chamber. I cannot understand why the Minister for Agriculture, Food and Forestry is coming here to deal with a matter that is primarily of concern to the constituents in Dublin working class areas. It is a disgrace that the Government is paying so little attention to this issue.

I had expected either the Minister for Justice or the Minister for Finance to be present to deal with the drugs problem. Without doubt the drugs problem is the biggest issue facing us in the Dublin area. It is devastating thousands of lives and destroying entire communities and needs to be given priority by Government. I regret to say there is little evidence — today there is more proof of the point — of the political will to deal with this emergency with the resources and urgency it demands.

While the middle class debate supply reduction versus demand reduction the wave of drug related crime continues to engulf the city destroying the lives of many of my constituents. Our first priority must be to stem the supply of drugs and we do this by tackling the operations of the main drug barons. It is an affront to most ordinary people to read the minute details of the extravagant lifestyles of these gangsters in the newspapers.

On a regular basis we read about the expensive properties they own, their big cars, their movements and their associates yet they appear to be untouchable. These people are quite openly making huge profits from drug dealing yet the State seems powerless to deal with them. Some are in receipt of social welfare payments and live in Dublin Corporation houses. Apart from the appalling damage that drug dealing is causing to my constituents and others across the city, the drug barons are providing the most dreadful example to the smaller dealers down the line and to the many young people living on the fringes of society and considering a life of crime.

We either tackle this problem or give up and let the criminals run the country. The Garda Síochána complain about an inadequate exchange of information between themselves, the Revenue Commissioners and the Department of Social Welfare. The Revenue Commissioners understandably fear for their own safety and that of their families. What should be done? The Government must establish a special unit comprising hand picked personnel from the Revenue Commissioners, the Garda Síochána and the Department of Social Welfare to target the drug barons. The existing wide-ranging powers of the Revenue Commissioners should be extended to this unit and the personal protection of its members must be guaranteed. The unit must be fully resourced as is necessary, regardless of cost.

The options are to do this, or give up because it is not until these godfathers of crime are put behind bars and their assets confiscated that we can start to seriously tackle the drugs emergency.

I express the regret of the Minister for Justice who cannot be here as she has an unavoidable commitment. I assure Deputy Shortall, however, that I will convey the strength of her concerns personally to the Minister for Justice and the Minister for Finance, whom I am meeting shortly. I regret that it has taken so long for this matter to be debated.

The Government shares Deputy Shortall's deep concern about the drugs crisis particularly in the part of Dublin she represents and is determined to tackle this issue.

As the Deputy will be aware, on 19 July 1995, the Government approved a series of measures to improve law enforcement on the drugs problem and related matters. One of the measures required that a joint review be carried out by the Revenue Commissioners and the Garda authorities of certain recommendations of the Law Reform Commission as regards co-operation between the two bodies. The terms of reference given to the Revenue Commissioner and the gardaí based on the recommendations contained in the Law Reform Commission's report on the Confiscation of the Proceeds of Crime (1991) — were:

(i) That the existing tax laws should be enforced with vigour against drug dealers, handlers of stolen goods, or others obtaining a living from crime. The powers given in various Finance Acts particularly in Sections 18 and 19 of the Finance Act, 1983 (which extends Revenue powers to the chargeability of profits or gains arising from unlawful sources or activities) should be employed as extensively as possible, and

(ii) There should be greater mutual transfer of information between Revenue and the Gardaí to assist the Gardaí in confiscating the proceeds of crime, and to assist Revenue in recovering arrears of tax from the criminals concerned or to penalise them for non compliance with the Revenue's lawful requirements.

The review has now been concluded and a report will be submitted to Government shortly. The Deputy will appreciate that the Minister can make no further comment pending the Government's consideration of the report.

As regards the role of the Department of Social Welfare in this area, I know the Department is concerned about the illegal drugs problem and the effect it is having on communities. That Department is exploring, in consultation with other State agencies and community interests, what role that Department might play in a co-ordinated approach to tackling the problem. They are already participating in the national committee concerned with the reduction of the supply of drugs.

Finally, with regard to the Customs and Excise service — a part of the Office of the Revenue Commissioners — the Deputy will be aware that a memorandum of understanding was recently signed by the Chairman of the Revenue Commissioners and the Garda Commissioner. The memorandum was also endorsed by the Minister for Finance and the Minister for Justice. This memorandum, among other things, will help to resolve any difficulties that may have arisen in the past and provides for the establishment — for specific operations — of a joint task force comprising representatives of the Garda, Customs and Excise and the Naval Service as required.

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