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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 12 Nov 1997

Vol. 482 No. 6

Adjournment Debate. - Third Level Courses.

I am conscious the Minister has had difficulties with a recent industrial dispute which, thankfully, is resolved. It is worth reflecting on what has happened in part-time courses in the past few months in a more serious way than breathing a sigh of relief over an industrial dispute which is over. There has been chaos in the past few weeks. Courses have been abandoned without notice to students. The worst example was in Tallaght where courses in information technology and computing were abandoned and students had to go elsewhere. This occurred at a time when the Minister and the Government had invested £80 million in the longer term development of IT resources in education. On the one hand the Minister and the Government are willing to invest this money while, on the other, courses are closing. This indicates serious defects in policy-making within the Department which cannot overcome them in a coherent manner.

The Minister and his Department have stated that we are in an era of lifelong learning in which people cannot expect their earlier educational qualifications to suffice for the rest of their lives. This means that we must be more open to facilitating part-time courses. The root cause of the recent difficulties goes back to the Department's approach to the funding of part-time courses. Perhaps the Minister will assure us things will change radically but my understanding is that colleges are expected to run part-time courses on a shoestring. This was confirmed by a recent report on the regional technical college sector by the HEA. The Department does not assign any core staff to part-time course development and delivery in the regional technical colleges. It expects these courses to be developed and delivered by people snatching an hour here and there from other activities.

The rate offered by colleges for part-time teachers is £25 per hour. This is in sharp contrast to the equivalent rate for a core staff member which is more than £60 per hour. With the colleges starved of resources by official funding mechanisms we have seen them resort to unacceptable practices, namely, taking on parttimers but confining them to seven hours per week to avoid contractual commitments. We are trying to develop something on the basis of casualisation which will be an increasingly core aspect of the education system. There is concern among trade unions and the public that the flexible provision of education, which can be made available through part-time courses, has not been taken on board by the Department.

This report confirms the Department's approach to funding the regional technical college sector is inferior to that of the university sector. It is ironic that the university sector has one part-time course place to every five full-time places whereas the regional technical college sector has one for every two full-time places. regional technical colleges are making a greater effort to develop options yet they are penalised by a less sympathetic system. This needs to be addressed.

Part-time education and the development of flexible course options has always been overlooked in the education system. This report talks about the need for full-time places. All of the projections of the Higher Education Authority and the colleges concern the number of full-time places we will need in the years 2000, 2005 and 2010. The reality is that we need to be more flexible than just thinking about full-time courses. Information technology is making distance learning possible. If we wish to utilise the expensive assets the Minister is putting in place in the colleges we should use them to the maximum efficiency. In the process we should facilitate the consumers of education.

The Minister should seriously rethink this policy. We need better funding mechanisms, more modulisation so that courses can be taken on a part-time basis and built up over time with credits, easier movement between colleges on the basis of what has been achieved on credits and more financial support for part-time students. The Minister has committed himself to the last measure.

These steps are demanded as a proper response to the challenge of lifelong learning, the utilisation of assets and equity. The report makes clear that a high proportion of those who participate in part-time courses come from groups which traditionally do not do well in full-time education; the children of semi-skilled and intermediate skilled workers. This is a vehicle for fairness in education as well as meeting our future needs and using our assets wisely. The Minister should look at the deeper causes behind the problems in this sector and the industrial dispute which could resurface if this is not addressed.

I thank the Deputy for raising the issue. I reject the Deputy's statement that there is total chaos in the sector. We did have a problem in Tallaght——

And in Waterford.

The Minister, without interruption.

——but I would make the point that the Tallaght problem was brought to the Department's attention very late in the day. My Department was in the position to respond quickly and comprehensively to resolve that matter for the particular college. It was unfair that the Department and its officials were blamed for something with which they had nothing to do. When the issue arose it was dealt with effectively.

I accept everything the Deputy said in relation to the value of part-time courses at third level. It is extremely important that we continue to upskill people who are in employment and that they have the opportunity and access to courses at all levels. I agree with the Deputy that the technological sector has been starved of funding but that is not my fault. I inherited that problem. The file on third level education and on the technological sector that was on my desk in July had the word "crisis" written all over it in terms of the physical accommodation needs of many regional technical colleges, including Tallaght and others. We worked over recent months to improve the situation. I agree that we must show a determination to meet the needs of a rapidly growing knowledge based economy.

In recognition of this, one of our first acts upon returning to Government in July was to make an additional £5 million capital investment, in tandem with current investment, in the creation of additional places this autumn in software courses at degree and technician level. When announcing that initiative, I stressed that we recognised the need for further action and that a comprehensive and co-ordinated plan was required to meet the full range of emerging skills needs.

Over the past four months, my Department and I have held a series of meetings with leaders in education and industry to listen to their concerns and invite their suggestions. The Education Technology Investment Fund, which we announced last week, is the product of this process of consultation.

There are three key objectives which underpin the investment fund. First, we want to renew and modernise the infrastructure of third level institutions, particularly in the technological sector, and guarantee that they will continue to produce high quality graduates. Second, we want to develop new areas of activities in our institutions, especially where emerging skills needs have already been identified. Finally, we want to invest in promoting the innovation which will be so crucial to maintaining and expanding our recent growth.

The investment fund will comprise £250 million to be allocated to capital programmes. An initial £100 million will be paid into the fund in 1998 and the balance of £150 million will be paid in the following two years. This funding will be in addition to annual capital allocations and will not replace ongoing investment.

Of the seven broad areas to which funding will be allocated, five relate to third level education. A total of £60 million will be allocated to the creation of additional places at both technician and degree level in computer software; £20 million will be allocated to the accommodation and equipment needs of the hotel and tourism sector; £30 million will be allocated towards a major equipment renewal programme; £15 million will be allocated towards the capital needs of promoting research and development and technology transfer; and £8O million will be allocated to develop and renew the infrastructure of the institutions in the technological sector. This investment represents the largest ever capital investment in the sector. The fund represents the largest ever investment in technological education since the foundation of the State.

I am sure the Deputy will agree that the fund initiative represents the Government's commitment to addressing the needs of our education system, particularly the technological sector. It clearly establishes a medium-term framework for financing the development of scientific and technological education in Ireland.

Specifically on the staffing issue, I wish to inform the House that officials from my Department and management from the technological sector have been involved in intensive ongoing discussions with the Teachers' Union of Ireland in the context of the Programme for Competitiveness and Work. The question of part-time working in the sector is being examined as part of these discussions. As a result of recent progress at these discussions, I am happy to inform the House that the Teachers' Union of Ireland has informed its members that, as a gesture of goodwill, the recently imposed overtime ban in the technological sector has been lifted with effect from last Monday. I am confident that, as a result of this development, part-time programmes in the sector will now be able to resume without further disruption.

In addition, the Deputy may wish to know that only this evening I held discussions concerning the development of part-time programmes with one of the major providers of these programmes. I am committed to supporting the continued role and expansion of this important part of our education system.

The Dáil adjourned at 9.15 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 13 November 1997.

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