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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 19 Nov 1997

Vol. 483 No. 1

Supplementary Estimates, 1997. - Vote 36: Agriculture and Food.

I move:

That a supplementary sum not exceeding £63,187,000 be granted to defray the charge which will come in course of payment in the year ending 31 December 1997 for the salaries and expenses of the Office of the Minister for Agriculture and Food, including certain services administered by that Office, and of the Irish Land Commission and for payment of certain grants, subsidies and sundry grants-in-aid and for the payment of certain grants under cash-limited schemes.

This has been a difficult year for farming and the funds proposed in the Supplementary Estimate will be used to support farm incomes and protect public and animal health. Following fairly detailed negotiations, the European Commission has given approval to a national system of agrimonetary compensation and a sum of £24.5 million is proposed under subhead J.6 for this purpose. This will be financed entirely by the Exchequer.

This aid will be payable to producers who suffered losses arising from the November 1996 and January 1997 green pound revaluations and is broken down as follows: £15 million for the beef sector, £6.4 million for the dairy sector, up to £1.6 million for the cereals sector and £0.30 million for the sugar beet sector. I need not remind Deputies of the difficulty experienced by cereal producers this year and the problems with the harvest. The balance of £1.2 million will be used to relieve some exceptional cases of hardship for cereal and other crop growers. The details will depend on the results of assessments under way and an appropriate transfer will be made from the agrimonetary subhead to the usual subhead for such measures, subhead J.2.

In the structural area my aim has been to support existing commitments to on-farm investment. Since 1994 the number of farmers completing work under the various farm investment schemes has been high. This has been helped by attractive rates of grant, relative stability in farm prices and low interest rates.

This year the level of completion has been maintained. As part of the mid-term review of Structural Funds, an additional £28 million was allocated to farm investment schemes, which is available over the remaining years — 1998 and 1999 — of the current round of Structural Funds. In view of the significant level of ongoing investment by farmers, I am proposing an exceptional allocation of £15 million, which will be funded entirely from the Exchequer, to ensure that payment is made for all works completed in accordance with specification. In addition to assisting the farming sector, these works protect the environment.

I also propose to bring forward £9 million in headage payments under subhead M.4 which were initially to be paid next year. This has, of course, had the effect of depressing the allocation set out in the recently published 1998 Abridged Estimates for my Department.

Expenditure on disease control and eradication is an important area for my Department and I propose allocating £19 million to measures to combat brucellosis and BSE and for the disposal of meat and bonemeal produced prior to the introduction of even more stringent controls earlier this year.

The issue of brucellosis has become one of major concern over the last year, not least the deteriorating disease position and the implications that this may have for trading purposes. Although we continue to have brucellosis black-spots, only four counties — Donegal, Leitrim, Louth and Carlow — have been brucellosis-free this year. It is, therefore, fair to say that brucellosis is a nationwide problem which demands concerted and urgent national action. This is especially true when one considers the consequences for our export trade in agricultural products.

The substantial increases in expenditure in 1997 on compensation payments to farmers under the disease eradication schemes is directly attributable to the dramatic increase in the brucellosis incidence since 1996. The deteriorating position has been given major consideration by my Department and over the summer months was the subject of detailed discussions with the farming and veterinary bodies at the Animal Health Forum. A number of interim measures have been put in place to address the problem. These include milk ring testing on a monthly as opposed to the previous quarterly basis; the implementation of an intensive contiguous blood testing regime, coupled with detailed epidemiological investigations by departmental veterinary inspectors; the maintenance of a rigorous depopulation programme incorporating the early removal of reactors and an awareness and education programme. It will also shortly be a legal requirement for all eligible animals sold through marts and from farm to farm to have been blood tested within the preceding 12 months. The brucellosis compensation regime has been revamped. In an effort to afford herd owners the opportunity to confidently buy pre-movement tested stock, the ICOS and their marts are running special catalogued blood tested sales. The position will continue to be closely monitored. If there is further deterioration I may have no alternative but to introduce further measures, including the tightening up of the pre-movement test requirement.

The financial effects of the increase in BSE cases in Ireland which took place during the latter part of 1996 are also reflected in the shortfall of more than £5 million in the 1997 allocation for general disease control and eradication. My Department arranged during the year for the disposal of stocks of meat and bonemeal which had built up from the existing scheme of depopulation and destruction of herds in which a case of BSE occurred. The costs of this disposal are also reflected in the Supplementary Estimate of £8 million. As the operation will take place close to the year end, I have also made a contingency provision in the 1998 Estimates for this purpose.

A sum of £500,000 is provided in the Supplementary Estimate for the provision of a ferry service. I am very pleased that service is working well and is well supported by the farming community. I take this opportunity to ask the general agriculture industry, particularly the co-operatives, to support the ferry service. Taxpayers' money was used to put initial seed capital into the project to get the service off the ground. Given the size of the agriculture industry, it would be a shame if the service was not well supported.

Receipts from veterinary inspection fees show a significant decrease against the Estimate because of a slow down in the level of live cattle exports. The estimated savings of £0.5 million under subhead J.4 arise from start-up which has taken longer than anticipated and reflects claim amounts requested to date from local authorities to grant assist them in implementing the Control of Horses Act, 1996. The implementation of this Act is extremely important, as was highlighted recently. As well as implementing the control measures in the Act, the Department has supported a specific project in Cherry Orchard which will be helpful to that community. It is a positive measure which will be operated in tandem with the control measures.

In marketing and processing, the £400,000 proposed for subhead M.12 arises because FEOGA marketing and processing awards are made by regulation in ecu. Some exchange losses are unavoidable over time arising from currency fluctuations between dates of payment to beneficiaries and receipt of funds from the Commission. The amount being provided this year is in respect of projects approved in the 1990-3 period, which are now completed.

Teagasc has substantial bank borrowings accumulated over a number of years, currently in the order of £3 million. The organisation is experiencing serious difficulties in attempting to balance its budget for 1997. Since these difficulties emerged earlier this year, my Department has been maintaining strong pressure on the organisation to achieve a balanced budget, but despite remedial action the indications at this stage are that a deficit will result. Teagasc will also have significant difficulties in balancing its budget next year. In addition, Teagasc has significant ongoing capital investment commitments in the research and advisory area which add to the financial pressure on the organisation.

Teagasc has identified major capital investment needs in the training area. As a research and training organisation, Teagasc needs to consider modern systems of communication and of giving the best possible advice and education, particularly to younger farmers. There is a network of Teagasc centres and agricultural colleges throughout the country. It behoves Teagasc, as the national training and advisory body, to ensure modern informatics and telematics are used to the greatest possible extent to give the most up to date international information to our intelligent and ambitious farmers who will have to work in an internationally competitive environment in the future.

An additional provision of £4 million is proposed under the losses subhead, L.2. The 1997 Estimates included a standard amount of £500,000. The total losses are made up of disallowances of £2.4 million on the clearance of the guarantee accounts for 1993, a residual £0.8 million in respect of beef stock losses in the 1992 clearance and £2.4 million disallowed in respect of late payment of premia. While it is encouraging to note the penalties are not on the scale of past beef fines and that Ireland's performance has improved in absolute and relative terms, from the point of view of the taxpayer no penalties are acceptable. Great efforts have been made and continue to be made to improve the protection of Union moneys managed by my Department.

Since l996 the annual FEOGA account forwarded to the European Commission has been independently audited and a high level review group is in place to ensure all audit recommendations are implemented. Yesterday on national radio I was delighted to hear a member of the EU Court of Auditors — a former Member of this House — commend named members of the Department of Agriculture and Food for their extraordinary competence in this area.

A net supplementary of £3.289 million is being sought under my Department's l997 administrative budget. This increase relates primarily to increased costs in overtime, travel, post and telephones, legal claims, accommodation and payments to temporary veterinary inspectors. The increase in overtime, travel and payments to temporary veterinary inspectors is due in the main to increased activity at export meat plants. There has been an increase of 12 per cent in slaughtering for cattle and beef compared to this time last year. For EU accounts accreditation purposes we are required to rotate our staff at meat plants. This, with the deployment of staff for BSE control purposes at the Border to prevent the illegal importation of cattle and beef products from Northern Ireland, has led to increased costs for staff overtime and travel.

The increase in post and telephone costs has resulted from the increase in the number of schemes, such as area aid and beef premiums, which has led to additional payments to farmers. There has been increased usage of mobile telephones and fax machines. I do not know how people managed without mobile telephones until now. Deputy Sheehan and I must operate without them in the peninsular areas of west Cork.

But the Minister can be heard.

The sooner the better we are linked to the national grid because we want to make ourselves heard. The Department's commitments under the charter of rights for farmers led to an increase in our accommodation costs. The improvement in staff accommodation in local offices is welcome.

The past year has been difficult for some sectors of farming. Prices for our main agricultural products have remained relatively stable. The strong Irish pound in the earlier part of the year, which led to a number of green pound revaluations, contributed to some pressure on prices. Against this background, since coming to office in June I have sought to ensure EU and national supports take account of the need to maintain farm incomes. I have also had to provide additional resources for animal disease eradication measures. I am determined to complement the additional compensation provided with the necessary policy changes to reduce animal disease levels and thereby protect the trading capacity of our industry and the livelihood of farmers. I have provided additional resources for on-farm investment. This is in line with the policy objective that Irish agriculture must become more competitive as we face further CAP reform and a more liberal world trading environment.

I commend the Supplementary Estimate to the House.

I would vote against the Estimate if I thought it would put pressure on the Minister to pay the headage cheques and the cow suckler grants owed to farmers since 31 October. However, I am realistic enough to know I would not be successful and many people are waiting for their cheques. I am not happy with the manner in which the Department deals with headage cheques, nor with the Government's record on many agriculture issues since it took up office. Many promises have been broken since 6 June.

We do not provide installation aid for young farmers or operate a grants scheme for the control of pollution. This is the first time in many years farmers are not entitled to grants for farm buildings. The mix up in the issue of headage grants to farmers is very contentious. The Minister of State made a statement in the House yesterday. While I find no fault with what he said, I do not believe it. If the Minister has to conduct matters in the way the EU seems to have instructed him to do, 25,000 farmers will not be paid their headage payments by Christmas because, even if they worked 24 hours a day, it would be physically impossible for his officials to process the 25,000 maps that have to be validated between now and Christmas. The only thing the Minister can do is get Brussels to allow him to pay the remaining farmers over the next seven or eight days on the basis of their 1996 dairy aid applications and make the clawback next spring. The Minister has 40 per cent of their money already. People are infuriated. I was at the mart in Tuam last Monday and I have never seen such bitterness, not particularly against the Minister but because people are not getting the money they were told they would get. A political decision must be made quickly by the Department.

We are again having problems with brucellosis. I accept what the Minister said. I lived through this problem some years ago. There is no dirtier disease. BSE brought us to our knees, but nothing will bring a farming community to its knees like the contagious aspect of brucellosis. Four counties have had huge outbreaks. Many other counties, including my own, that have not had outbreaks for a number of years are suffering outbreaks this year. Some farmers tell me that the decision to de-stock farms has not been taken quickly enough by veterinary officers. That should be expedited. Pre-movement testing takes time. It is bad enough that we are tagged with the problem of BSE but if, in addition, we lose our brucellosis free status it will be difficult to sell our meat and cattle anywhere. If we are not to lose the brucellosis free status, the number of restricted herds must be fewer than 300. If my information is right, we are within three of that number, with about 297 herds restricted. If that is the case, we are in great danger.

As a backbencher in the last Government I spent many hours consulting with people in the rendering industry. Currently, we hear not a whimper from them. Perhaps the Minister has a magic wand that solved their problems. I was told that if the Government did not do something for them there would be cattle lying at the side of the road. I told them at the time that no Government would give them a direct subsidy, which is what they were looking for, but that where the rendering trade was in a position to remove special risks material — the back bones and heads of dead and worn out animals — and have them delivered to the rendering industry, State aid should be provided to upgrade their premises. Perhaps the Minister would clarify what has happened in that regard because that is a very important matter, particularly from an environmental point of view.

The £24 million for agrimonetary compensation and weather damage measures is extremely important. Regardless of what the papers say, this is not money for jam. Any farmer who gets some of this money richly deserves it. The matter has been kicked around for a long time. I cannot understand why we had to wait until now. Those cheques should be put in the post tomorrow, now that clearance has been given.

I share the Minister's views on the roll-on/roll-off ferry and I am fully behind him. Today we are talking about £0.5 million, but I understand it cost £1 million. That is a vote of confidence in free trade. Some carriers who believed they should never carry an animal are thinking about doing so now that there is competition. On behalf of Fine Gael I call on the vested interests to ensure that they use the service. It will be competition for the other carriers and, as time goes on, there will be no shortage of carriers. It was because they thought they were the only fish in the pond that Pandoro decided to do what they did.

I am extremely disappointed with efforts to restore the live cattle trade to Cairo. Earlier in the year there seemed to be no trouble. Now there is trouble; otherwise the trade would have started. What I cannot elicit from anybody is why the Egyptians can buy cattle from other countries but do not want to buy ours. For some reason, they will not deal with us. I understand that there is to be a debate in the Dáil soon on agricultural matters. I would like the Minister to take that opportunity to outline in detail why it is that we cannot open that trade. Whatever about cattle prices last year, small to medium-sized cattle got a very poor trade at the mart in Tuam on Monday. We badly need an export outlet.

I note that there is a Supplementary Estimate of £0.5 million for Teagasc which is experiencing huge financial problems. There was a subhead of £200,000 for private agricultural colleges last year which it was proposed to include this year. According to sources within the private agricultural college circle that was reduced to half with the intention to pay the other half later this year. Will that commitment be given, as some of our agricultural colleges have huge maintenance problems? Some of them are in extremely bad condition vis-a-vis wiring, lighting, etc. I am sure that is well documented in the Department. Before matters go too far the Minister should ensure that even that low level of maintenance is made available again. I do not know whether Teagasc is trying to hijack the money, but let me make a strong plea on behalf of the private agricultural colleges that they should get their £200,000.

We welcome the fact that the various subheads are going through at this stage, but we are sick and tired of what is happening in the context of headage and suckler cow payments. If there is anything the Minister can do in the next week or ten days, it would be welcome. There is no point in saying the cheques will be delivered by Christmas because we are on the countdown to Christmas now. Some people will not get what is due to them until next January or February, and that is not good enough.

I support this Supplementary Estimate for £64 million for the Agriculture and Food Vote. It is important for agriculture, our largest industry, and I compliment the Minister on bringing it to the House.

An additional £7 million is needed for bovine TB and brucellosis eradication. A few years ago Ireland was a brucellosis free country because the eradication programme had been a success. With the increase in the number of reactors there is a danger of losing brucellosis free status. I am pleased with the measures the Minister has announced.

Those involved in the eradication scheme must play a part to ensure Ireland becomes brucellosis free as soon as possible. There has been and will continue to be substantial investment in it but we must ensure value for money. It has been necessary for the Competition Authority to visit a number of major veterinary practices recently as part of an investigation into the scale of TB test fees charged by the veterinarians. The level of fees has been a bone of contention for farmers. The Irish Farmers' Journal suggested recently that the majority of veterinary practices affiliated to the IVU have been charging fees substantially in excess of those they receive from the Department for State work. I look forward to a ruling from the Competition Authority on this issue as soon as possible.

It is also necessary to provide an extra £5.26 million for BSE compensation. This disease has come to light in relatively recent times and if it is to be addressed it requires a radical approach at EU level. We must strive to make Ireland a BSE free area. The disease must be eliminated and nothing less will satisfy our customers at home and abroad. It will not be sufficient from the customer's point of view to rely on post mortem testing for BSE. Ireland depends on the live export trade and we must be able to guarantee our foreign customers that all the live cattle exported are BSE free. The measures being considered in foreign markets to extract the specified risk materials from animals is welcome. However, it is only a short-term solution. The only satisfactory solution is a test which may be carried out on live cattle before they are sent to the factory or are exported. Some say that such a test is not possible but many things which were not considered possible ten years ago are taken for granted today. I hope such a test will be automatic in years to come. Not only will this satisfy our customers but it will open many new foreign markets for live exports, which will in turn bring competition to the meat factories in Ireland which have had it their own way in recent times.

I welcome the provision of £0.5 million to support the continuation of the live export trade. The Government believes in the importance of the live trade to create competition in the beef market. It is not a coincidence that the trade has started again since Fianna Fáil returned to Government and Deputy Walsh was appointed Minister.

It is also necessary to provide an additional £8 million to deal with the urgent measures to dispose of certain specified risk materials. The original estimate for this item was £2 million. We should not forget the mess created in the spring by the announcement with regard to the disposal of specified risk materials without ensuring adequate facilities were in place for the safe disposal of animal carcases. This lack of planning almost brought the industry to a standstill last spring. Above all I was horrified at the public health hazard in many parts of the country which followed directly from this lack of planning. On 10 March I was sickened to see 13 dead cattle and two dead sheep dumped on a road near Kyletalisha dump outside Portlaoise. The animals were there for over two weeks. Such dumping happened in many counties at that time and those who dumped animals should have been identified and prosecuted. Those with political responsibility were equally responsible through having created the situation.

Through the Department of Agriculture and Food the taxpayer is contributing an additional £8 million to deal with this and related matters. Farmers must pay £9 per animal when they take cattle to a meat factory as their contribution to the scheme. The factories should also make a large contribution to deal with the matter. The Department should examine the possibility of licensing a second company to deal with the specified risk materials. It is a matter of concern that one company should have a monopoly in this regard. A company in the south of the country should be licensed as this would help alleviate transport difficulties.

I am glad there is a sum of £24.5 million made available to deal with weather damage and other matters. Where severe damage has been caused by the weather support should be available. While driving to Dublin this morning I noticed a field of barley in County Kildare that had not yet been cut. It will not be harvested at this stage. That crop has been lost due to the weather conditions and such losses are numerous throughout the country.

I look forward to the introduction of the European single currency. Part of this Supplementary Estimate addresses green pound revaluations. They will not arise with the single currency and it will help bring about price stability. Despite the recent publicity about payments to farmers and our booming economy, we must ask why so many people are leaving the land. It is the only sector of the economy which people are leaving and there are implications for rural development. The far away hills are not as green as some people think. This is a priority for the Government. I support the measures the Minister has announced and I urge the House to show its support for agriculture by supporting this Supplementary Estimate.

I wish to share my time with Deputy Boylan.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

I do not want to be too hard on the Minister but I may have to say a few unkind things. Agriculture seems to be under attack from other sections of society. After a very difficult year, what with the weather and the live export difficulties, the farming community expected the Government to stand by it. If I had my way I would oppose this Supplementary Estimate. The Estimates for next year propose a cut of £35 million or 9 per cent at a difficult time for farmers.

I am not a farmer, having been born and reared in a town, but I come from an agricultural area and I represent small farmers in the west. Reading the comment on the Court of Auditors report one would imagine all farmers were getting large subsidies. One would not see a bullock in the west; the people are hardly able to feed themselves never mind the bullocks. There are very few large farms in County Mayo. Most of the farmers have poor quality land and find it difficult to make a living. It was appalling last week to learn that the Minister could not retain this year's level of spending for next year but lost £35 million. It is not acceptable and I hope that the Minister will be able to bring forward a Supplementary Estimate to make up the difference.

My concern is for the small farmers. The large farmers are well able to look after themselves because they run big businesses and make large profits, although they have also had a difficult year. However, the reduction in headage payments must be condemned. It was a proven supplement to farmers' income, one on which they depended — no matter how bad things were at least they got a headage payment. The public, in particular the farmers, has lost confidence in politicians in Government and Opposition. They were promised that headage payments would be made by 31 October. They do not care about digitilization. I do not blame the staff who work in difficult circumstances. The Minister, Deputy Yates, spent £4 million to modernise the Department's offices in Castlebar through the installation of computers, etc.

We are going backwards instead of moving forward. Most payments had been made by this time last year. Most farmers will not get this year's payments until next February or March despite the Minister's statement that they will be issued over the next three weeks. Deputy Connaughton suggested yesterday that the payments should be made in regard to all area aid forms and if there are problems, the payments can be clawed back next year. It is wrong to hold cheques. Farmers depend on them to pay back those to whom they owe money. The Minister should make the payments based on last year's area aid forms, starting tomorrow. I hope the Minister will not implement the Kearney report on a piecemeal basis. Headage payments will be reduced next year and I hope farmers on contributory pensions will not be excluded from receiving headage payments. A ceiling of £3,000 will then be implemented which will have to be fought to the bitter end.

The media believes farmers have a pot of gold, but as soon as agriculture debates begin in the House, journalists leave the press gallery. The only reference to agriculture in today's newspapers was the auditor's report from the European Union, which was bad news. There was no reference to the poor farmers who did not get their headage payments or who have gone through difficult times because of the weather and problems with cattle exports. Farmers take much of the blame because they are perceived to always complain, even when times are good, and that is why the public does not have sympathy for them.

They are being attacked from all sides, including Brussels and Fianna Fáil. The Minister, Deputy McCreevy, and the Taoiseach signalled in recent months that the farming community would have to tighten its belt. The strongest signal was sent out last week when the Minister was not able to convince the Taoiseach and his Government colleagues on the Book of Estimates. He will lose £35 million in the budget at a time when agriculture is on its knees. I remember the Ministers, Deputies Walsh and Cowen, making wonderfully elegant speeches in Buswell's Hotel in front of thousands of farmers. They had all the answers and told farmers about the many payments they would receive. I was disappointed Fine Gael did not get back into Government but as a rural Deputy I believed farmers would be in for a bonanza. That has not been the case and they cannot even get what they are due. The Government has let them down on its promises, especially the commitment on headage payments, as has the Minister by not taking on the Minister, Deputy McCreevy, and the Taoiseach.

I concur with Deputy Ring's comments and highlight the extreme concern in the farming community about the soundings from Government. The Minister has the interest of farmers at heart but he is not able to convince the anti-farmer lobby within the Government. Shock waves were sent out following the publication of the Book of Estimates — a cutback of £26 million on headage payments next year — and by the Minister for Finance's statement that consumers must be protected and farmers will have to take less for their produce. They cannot take less because they are selling under cost. The majority of farmers would much prefer to get a decent return for their produce than a cheque in the post. However, it is EU policy to bring prices down to world price levels and farmers are complying with that. They are selling below cost and as a result compensation must come into play.

Thousands of farmers have been driven off the land and have had to seek alternative enterprises. They had the courage to provide the same standards for their families as those in the PAYE sector. They found alternative jobs with local authorities and factories while their wives looked after the farm. They were only just able to get by because the farm was still an added cost. However, compensation payments helped to allay the cost. The Minister referred to means testing such farmers for compensation. This is eviction by stealth. He has got them off the land and will now take it from them. We thought the days of evictions were over but recently a widow and her family were thrown on the roadside by a financial institution.

People are moving into my constituency, buying land and planting it. Afforestation is wide-spread and is backed by Government and EU policy. It will have a downgrading effect on rural Ireland as families are driven into towns. Life in rural Ireland is gradually being eroded and this policy comes from Brussels. It is not good for Ireland and will have a serious knock-on effect. Will the Minister stand up to the bureaucrats pushing this policy which is supported by many of his ministerial colleagues, particularly the Minister for Finance who has the key to unlocking the funding that will help to sustain small farmers? Farmers are decent, honest people seeking nothing more than to provide their families with the same standard of living as employees in the PAYE sector. I am sick of the media referring to the millions flowing to farmers. That is not the case and any money which has been received has been well spent and invested to improve farms and prevent pollution.

I draw the Minister's attention to an anomaly. The control of farmyard pollution scheme has been terminated. At the same time farmers are being forced to take on the REPS to improve their farms to protect the environment. Many cannot avail of REPS because the control of farmyard pollution grants are not available to them. Not only are they losing the REPS, which provides a substantial grant from Brussels, but they cannot get the grant to make the necessary farmyard developments to house their stock over the winter months. Will the Minister examine this anomaly and correct it? Will he stand up to the anti-farmer lobby in Government which is glaringly against rural Ireland and small traditional family farms which have an important role to play in society?

Coming from the same constituency as the Minister, I have no doubt he is aware of the serious implications for our agriculture industry, particularly in Cork South West. While he is doing his best he will have to make a super-human effort if he is to hold the fort as far as the agriculture industry is concerned. The Minister must lobby the EU at all discussions on agriculture to ensure there is no undermining of farm grants. There will be opposition but he has the muscle and should have the clout to deliver to farmers the promises made in his election manifesto, on behalf of his party, earlier in the year. The Minister must take off the kid gloves, tackle the problem and be assisted by the Minister of State, Deputy O'Keeffe, to ensure the goods are delivered to the agricultural community.

We have some of the finest agricultural products in the world. We have the distinction of having the best beef in the world yet we are not able to get that message across. The Government must tackle this problem at source. The Minister must make it clear that the millions of pounds we are getting for our farmers is utilised to the best extent.

We are the only island nation in the European Union. For that reason I urge the Minister to ask for preferential treatment at every agriculture discussion in Europe to ensure the maximum benefits are payable to our farmers. I need not remind the Minister of the frustration in the industry. In the Minister's constituency and throughout the western seaboard farmers in disadvantaged areas are frustrated as a result of the long delay in payment of suckler, headage and beef premium grants. For some unknown reason the digitalisation of area aid maps is creating a huge difficulty in the Department of Agriculture and Food in this modern age, when computers can check everything from A to Z. It would be different if it had been the stroke of a pen or if calculations had to be done mentally. In this day and age there is no reason for this frustration as far as area aid applications are concerned. As regards getting through to the area aid office to hear when Mr. X or Mr. Y's case will be dealt with, one could be telephoning until the cows come home.

It would be easier to telephone Our Lord.

It would be easier to make contact beyond the globe.

What was the Deputy doing for the past four months?

I thought the Minister of State would have been able to expedite everything in that Department. Instead he has created more frustration since taking office. The Minister of State is not making any progress in respect of delivering the goods.

The Deputy will have to get a digital calculator.

My constituency colleague, the Minister, is trying to do his best but his best is not good enough. The time has come for him to sort out the impasse—

The Deputy should have a digital calculator.

—and the frivolous objections which have arisen in the area aid office. This should not result in a bleak Christmas for the unfortunate farmers in his constituency and throughout the west and south west. The Minister is well aware they are relying on the cheque in the post from the headage grant to buy the Christmas dinner. I urge him to clear the way immediately for the payment of headage, beef premium and suckler cow grants to all outstanding applicants, and thereby restore confidence and goodwill among farmers.

I impress on the Minister the necessity to restore the farm installation aid grant. I had experience of being with the Minister on several occasions at the presentation of certificates to 2,000 highly trained young farmers in Cork this year. There was an air of frustration and despondency among them when they heard the majority of them would not qualify for the farm installation aid grant of £5,600. Did the Minister consult Teagasc and, if so, is he aware of the serious fall off in applications from young farmers to take up courses in agriculture in 1998? There is a serious drop in the number of applicants who are contemplating training in farming. There is disillusionment among farmers and if the Minister wishes to restore confidence in young farmers he should restore the farm installation aid grant. I am amazed he does not have more clout at the Cabinet table when we are told about the Celtic tiger—

The Celtic Goose. The Deputy is the closest thing to the Celtic Tiger that I know of.

I ask the Minister to ensure before the Celtic tiger is caged that the farm installation aid grant is introduced. Our pleading will fall on deaf ears if he cannot deliver on that promise. He must also restore the farm improvement grant and the farm pollution grants. We cannot have a progressive REPs scheme unless farmers are given an opportunity to combat pollution in the farmyard. How has the situation changed so much in the past six months given that he said, if returned as Minister, he would ensure those grants were restored before Christmas? Christmas is fast approaching and no decision has been made. The Minister must act before it is too late to ensure farmers can play their primary role in generating income for future generations. The Minister should make his presence felt and honour the promises he made when he campaigned with me in south-west Cork.

We both survived.

I commend the Minister who was successful yesterday at the Council of Ministers' meeting in Brussels at which the Agenda 2000 proposals were further discussed. Farmers are delighted that we have someone like Deputy Walsh in office. We did well in the negotiations on the MacSharry proposals because our commissioner was involved. I have no doubt that under the leadership of the Taoiseach and the Minister the position of farmers will be protected in the Agenda 2000 package. What is being said is soul destroying and causing disillusionment among the agricultural community. There will be changes which may be for the better. The Government is committed to the retention of full compensation payments in areas where adjustments will be required.

The question of enlargement of the European Union is being looked at. To date, the additional countries which have joined have not caused destructive economic problems for this country. The membership of the proposed new member states which are similar in size may benefit us. The World Trade Organisation negotiations will, however, cause greater difficulties for us than in the past.

There has been much talk about the shortage of killing capacity in the pigmeat industry, particularly in the north-east. Proposals were advanced — the Minister, Deputy O'Kennedy and Deputy Deasy had an input — to develop a modern pig processing industry which has grown to the point where capacity has increased from a figure of 2.2 million to four million pigs. However, there is still a shortage of capacity. To alleviate the problem I encourage processors who have received substantial grant-aid under this Administration to expand their facilities.

Because of the size of the multiples in the retail sector there is a need for large-scale operations. Up to 60,000 pigs per week are being killed in huge plants in Denmark and 40,000 in some parts of the United Kingdom. This is the trend in the industry. Up to 10,000 pigs per week are being killed in some of our modern facilities. Processors should be encouraged to expand their facilities to alleviate the difficulties caused for producers. To avoid fragmentation existing plants should be expanded rather than new ones provided. We have moved from the point where we had 38 plants to where we now have four or five modern plants which are doing well. This has been to the benefit of the industry which has made progress. I want this to continue as it has led to the creation of employment and economic development in rural areas.

I thank colleagues for their contributions to the debate on the Supplementary Estimate in which they were responsible and supportive. An additional £64 million is being sought to provide further assistance to the farming community. Agriculture is our primary industry and we wish to assist it in every way possible. Total exports amount to approximately £5 billion annually. As there are virtually no imports this has a tremendous spin-off effect in the economy.

It is a pity that £8 million has to be spent in the rendering industry. I would prefer to spend this money on other developmental measures but the consumer has demanded that risk material — the brain and spinal cord — be eliminated. We have no option but to process this at higher temperatures and dispose of it. Aid is available from Forbairt for the improvement of equipment. The industry has some of the most modern technology available. This is important because we are the largest exporter of cattle and beef in the European Union.

A number of Deputies raised the matter of payments. These are not being made as quickly as we would like. There is an annual audit. We have to ensure there are adequate controls. I give a personal commitment that payments due, for a turkey, goose or some other exotic food people want to have on their table on Christmas day, will be made as quickly as possible.

Is the Minister giving a guarantee that cheques will be issued before Christmas?

I will take up with Teagasc the point made by Deputy Connaughton on the private colleges. I understand their needs. The Deputy mentioned a figure of £200,000.

I compliment Deputy Fleming on his tremendous maiden speech on our single most important industry.

Vote put and agreed to.
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