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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 17 Feb 1998

Vol. 487 No. 3

Adjournment Debate. - Discipline in Schools.

I thank the Leas-Cheann Comhairle for allowing me raise this issue. The incident in Waterford raises some fundamental questions about rights and duties in our education system. It has taken the lid off problems which have been simmering below the surface for some considerable time.

I believe the primary duty of the State is to protect the safety of its people, and this is as true in the classroom as anywhere else. The assault of teachers must be treated as a crime and not something to be excused or tolerated. There can be no room for public ambivalence on this question. The teacher is in loco parentis and cannot have his or her authority challenged by physical abuse. Similarly, sexual harassment, which many of the teachers' unions say is becoming a problem, must be taken very seriously.

The school in this instance is to be complimented on the procedures it has followed. However, a serious anomaly has been exposed. The teachers have concluded they can no longer provide schooling to the pupil at the centre of this incident. However, the Minister insists the school cannot expel the pupil unless and until it finds another school willing to take him. It is unacceptable the Minister allows such a stand-off. He cannot wash his hands of responsibilities in this area. The State exercises its authority to compel school attendance and it must be willing to provide suitable accommodation and not to seek to shunt responsibility onto a school which cannot cope in such an instance.

Parents and pupils also have fundamental rights which must be respected. We are in the process of enshrining new rights for parents and students to appeal the exercise of authority by a teacher or a school. The Minister must go further in this area. An education Ombudsman must be appointed. Parents must be embraced as an equal partner. Coherent policies governing behaviour and suspensions which parents can see are applied consistently are needed in schools. All rights carry reciprocal duties and a serious issue which arises in this case is whether compulsory attendance should extend to parents to attend child case conferences, or to pupils to attend psychological assessments. I believe there should be such compulsion on pupils and parents in respect of the education of their children, which is itself compulsory.

The Minister and his Department have been far too quick to act as Pontius Pilate in the issue of school discipline. The Department has guidelines which it issues to schools, but this is a matter of resourcing schools to cope. Disruptive children cannot be dealt with unless a resourced alternative exists to cater for them. Children are not being cared for in the right way. Schools do not have available to them the alternative treatments needed for particularly disruptive children.

The Minister has had for well over a year a path breaking report on school discipline. It put forward a serious and logical proposal: the establishment of a support team to which a teacher or a school could refer, at a timely stage, a child with discipline problems. No such support team is available to schools at present. Such a team should involve psychologists and counsellors as well as education specialists and community gardaí. Not only was this recommended one year ago in the report on school discipline, the same recommendation resurfaced when the Clondalkin study on school attendance arose.

The system of education, welfare and school attendance is a shambles. No coherent records are kept of school attendance; they have fallen into disuse. School attendance officers, or education welfare officers as they are known in modern parlance, are only in a handful of areas. No consistent policies are set out in this area. Suspensions are not consistently reported to anyone and problem children are left to be catered for by the school, predominantly acting alone. This is a huge gap which must be filled. It is impossible to expect teachers, who sometimes must teach up to 40 pupils in a primary classroom, to deal with extremely disruptive children.

It is high time this issue was addressed and that the curriculum was examined to see if it is properly equipped to cater for children who have difficulties responding to the traditional curriculum and school environment. It is gone beyond the stage now where the old type curriculum is used for all pupils regardless. Curricula should be more flexible and project based to encourage particularly disruptive young people who get frustrated in the existing system to develop their talents. Teachers must be supported in the classroom with proper resources. I hope the Minister will now commit those resources and devise structures to involve those in the health and justice services in such a support team for schools.

We are all deeply shocked by the assault on the teacher. On behalf of the Minister, Deputy Martin, myself and our Department, I take this opportunity to wish him a quick and complete recovery from the injuries he received. I sincerely hope he will soon be able to resume teaching.

Nobody can legislate for this type of incident. While a certain level of security must be maintained at every school, boards of management cannot be expected to take extreme measures to guard against every possible scenario. School should be a happy place where our children can be educated in an atmosphere that is free from fear and tension, and I have every confidence in the wisdom of school authorities to decide what is appropriate for each school.

The Department has issued guidelines to assist schools in discharging their responsibilities in the area of discipline. These were drawn up following consultation with representatives of management, teachers and parents. The managerial authorities are responsible for ensuring that there is a fair and efficient code of behaviour in their school, and these guidelines are sufficiently flexible to allow each school authority to adapt them to meet the particular requirements of the school. A copy of the Report on Discipline in Schools which was commissioned by the Department and completed by Dr. Maeve Martin has been made available to every school. This report sets out models of best practice, and I am confident that it will be a valuable resource for school authorities in helping them to deal with breaches of discipline.

Dr. Martin's report comprehensively addresses issues such as the extent to which discipline is a problem in schools, and sets out models of good practice in the maintenance of discipline in schools. The report outlines the views of teachers on innovative strategies to promote and maintain a good standard of discipline. While the report found that the vast majority of schools consider that discipline has become more of an issue in recent years, 80 per cent of the schools surveyed described the level of indiscipline as low.

The report also states that the new programmes at second level, such as transition year, the leaving certificate applied and the leaving certificate vocational programme, are having a positive impact on students and help to reduce breaches of discipline. The introduction of the junior certificate school programme will assist further in matching the abilities, aptitudes and interests of each student which, in turn, will positively influence their behaviour.

We are currently finalising proposals for the establishment of a management support service. This will help school authorities to deal with vital areas such as school planning and discipline. We intend to put this service in place for the new school year in consultation with the partners in education. Teachers and school authorities throughout the country deal competently and sensitively with a wide range of breaches of discipline on a daily basis. Parents and guardians who are familiar with the school code of discipline readily accept that sanctions are needed from time to time.

Incidents such as the recent assault on a teacher, which are thankfully extremely rare, raise issues of security as well as discipline. I am greatly reassured by the manner in which this very serious situation is being handled by the school authorities. Their prompt and responsible action demonstrates, if proof were needed, that the guidelines currently in place, as set out in the Department's circular which was issued last September, are sufficiently adaptable to address even the most difficult situations.

Nevertheless, we accept that there cannot be any complacency in this area, and we intend to keep the whole issue of school discipline under continuous review. It is always unwise to place too much emphasis on extreme, isolated incidents when formulating future policy, and we must not overlook the fact that the overwhelming majority of our pupils are conscientious and well behaved. Likewise, the vast majority of parents fully support the school in its efforts to create a spirit of mutual respect and co-operation. Ultimately, it is the school authority which is best placed to assess the local situation, and we have no immediate plans to change guidelines which have been drawn up in consultation with the partners in education, and which are sufficiently flexible to enable school authorities to adapt them to meet their particular needs.

I assure the House the Minister for Education and Science is deeply interested in this matter. With the officials in our Department, we are addressing it in great detail. We will be bringing forward our report shortly on what we propose to do in this area. It is important that the House should realise that we must all be responsible, that we must all maintain a resolute respect for a code of discipline right across society. That initially starts at home, continues through the school system and ultimately in society. Collectively, we have a duty to ensure that the proper environment exists so that the school system can serve our nation and that discipline is maintained not alone in the education system but in later life.

The Dáil adjourned at 9.20 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 18 February 1998.

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