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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 3 Jun 1998

Vol. 491 No. 6

Adjournment Debate. - Defence Forces Personnel.

Donal de Róiste or Donal Roche was a lieutenant in the Irish Army until 1969 when he was forcibly retired. He entered the Army in 1963 dedicated to a career in the Army, his family proud that he was following such a career. I am assured by him that he had no political affiliations and that is still the position. I am also assured by him that he was at no stage a supporter of militant republicanism nor did he involve himself with any subversive organisation. He was in 1969 a lieutenant based in Athlone looking forward to a long career in the Army.

From what is publicly known to date it seems as a young man Donal Roche made one mistake in the eyes of the intelligence section of the Army. He enjoyed traditional Irish music and visited traditional music pubs. He believes that this resulted in his being interrogated for several days by the intelligence wing of the Army concerning his opinions and the type of people he met at music sessions. He was never tried, charged or accused of any crime nor was he ever court martialled. To his total shock and surprise he was simply told one day that he was being forcibly retired from the Army under Rule 47.2 of the Defence Forces Regulations, 1954. He was never told why he was so retired nor was he given any opportunity to clear his name. His treatment in the Ireland of 1969 could provide a storyline for a Franz Kafka novel.

As everyone in this House knows, Donal Roche is the brother of Adi Roche who ran as a candidate in the presidential election. Rumours about Donal Roche's background emerged during the course of the presidential election without the full story ever being known. Donal Roche suffered greatly as a result of what happened to him in 1969. The passage of time has not diminished that suffering. The stories that emerged during the course of the presidential election rekindled the hurt and stress experienced by him. He says that to this day he does not know why he was dismissed from the Army. He wants to know what allegations were made against him and to be given an opportunity to refute them. He wants the record set straight and to be given an honourable discharge.

I have in my possession a letter from him dated 22 May 1998 in which he states "I am granting you full permission to access and make public all the files on Ex-Lieutenant Donal de Róiste No. 08159 (1963-1969) and help clear my name". I am asking the Minister for Defence to grant to me and to Donal Roche access to all information and files detailing each and every allegation made against him and the reasons the Government in 1969 recommended to the then President, Eamon de Valera, that he be dismissed from the Army. I am asking that a person independent of Government and the Defence Forces be appointed to conduct an inquiry into this matter and that Donal Roche be given a full opportunity to refute all allegations made against him and vindicate his good name.

Utimately an independent report should be published detailing the full background to what occurred, the manner in which Donal Roche was treated when interrogated by the Army and clarifying whether existing records prove misbehaviour by him which justified his dismissal and whether those records stand up to critical examination and to any response that can be furnished by Donal Roche or any other person prepared to give information about what occurred.

From what I have been told, the treatment of Donal Roche by the State in 1969 was a flagrant injustice. I am calling on the Minister for Defence to provide for Donal Roche a just mechanism which allows this issue once and for all to be properly addressed in a fair manner consistent with constitutional justice.

In the short time available to me I repeat the plea made by Deputy Shatter in support of this man's case. The man's life was ruined by a number of faceless people who worked in what is lower than a kangaroo court.

In a question dated 21 October 1997 to the Minister for Defence I asked the number of people who were retired from the Army between 1966 and 1997 and the answer I was given was three. I asked the reasons for which an officer of the Defence Forces may be retired in accordance with the Defence Act, 1954, and a list of conditions were supplied, none of which fitted Donal De Róiste's case, apart from one which I question.

Donal De Róiste was dismissed in the interest of the service. What was the interest of the service and what interest was at risk because of Donal De Róiste's presence in the Army? He received 12 hours' notice to leave the barracks and, therefore, section 2 of the Act was not fulfilled. He had no opportunity whatsoever to defend his position. He was asked to leave without an explanation and without a court martial. To answer those questions would not cost anybody in the Army their career, their reputation or their pension. In a sense of generosity and openness the Minister should open the files to Deputy Shatter or to an independent investigator to establish the innocence of Donal De Róiste. His life has been ruined and he has been left with a question mark over his character by faceless people operating in what is lower than a kangaroo court.

Before dealing with the case raised by Deputies Shatter and Allen, it is appropriate to state our appreciation for the very fine manner in which members of the Defence Forces have carried out their duties through the years, often in very trying and difficult times. For that reason I reject Deputy Allen's assertion of faceless people and kangaroo courts. That allegation is far removed from reality. All too often we fall into the trap of judging an event which took place many years ago by the situation and circumstances pertaining today. To do so is both unrealistic and unfair to the people who made the decision at the time given the circumstances which then existed.

Ex-Lieutenant de Róiste was retired by the President acting on the advice of the Government with effect from 27 June 1969. This was in accordance with section 47(2) of the Defence Act, 1954, which provides that an officer of the Permanent Defence Force may for any prescribed reason be retired by the President and subparagraph 18(1)(f) of Defence Force Regulation A.15 which prescribes that an officer of the Permanent Defence Force may be retired pursuant to section 47(2) of the Act, "in the interests of the service".

I have reviewed the papers in this case and am satisfied that the matter was handled in an appropriate manner and that the decision was taken only after very detailed consideration. A decision of this type is only ever taken for the most compelling reasons. Given that this is a matter involving military security on which a decision was made by the President, I am not in a position to discuss it further.

This is a 30 year old matter. Why can the file not be opened?

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