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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 20 Apr 2000

Vol. 518 No. 5

Ceisteanna–Questions. Priority Questions. - Working Visas and Authorisations.

Nora Owen

Question:

1 Mrs. Owen asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment the instructions she has issued to embassies regarding the issuing of work permits to non-nationals with certain skills; the countries which have been notified of this new scheme; if quotas have been allocated to different countries as well as quotas of skills; if a worker will be permitted to bring a spouse or partner and children; the validity period of each permit; if they are renewable; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [12281/00]

My Department, in conjunction with the Departments of Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Health and Children, and Environment and Local Government, is working with the Department of Foreign Affairs to finalise the details of the scheme for the issuing of working visas and authorisations which will allow non-European Economic Area nationals with skills as ICT professionals or technicians, registered nurses or building professionals to come to work here, on foot of an offer of a job from an Irish employer.

These visas and authorisations will be provided to the non-national at the relevant Irish embassy or consulate abroad. No quotas have been established as to either skills or nationality at this stage but this will be subject to review in the light of experience. The visas will be valid for a period of two years and will be renewable after that period.

At present non-visa country immigrants can be joined by their spouses and dependants once they can show they are in employment. Visa country immigrants must be in Ireland for one year and have a further year's contract of employment before they can be joined by their spouses and dependants. This approach is compatible with the European Commission's draft directive on family reunification which permits member states to set a qualifying period not to exceed one year before family reunification. The Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform is currently reviewing these arrangements as they will apply to holders of working visas.

Is the Minister saying that despite the announcement and her statements in the newspaper to the effect that the new scheme was in force from the day it was announced, no information has yet gone to embassies indicating how people can get a working visa which heretofore they were not able to get? Have the embassies received any information, given that it is now a few months since the announcement was made?

The announcement was made a month ago. The Department of Foreign Affairs is in the process, if it has not finalised matters, of getting the stamps which will be put on passports abroad. Such logistical arrangements are being put in place.

A number of people have come to Ireland since the Government decision was made, most recently a number of nurses from the Philippines. They are currently training in Ireland with a view to taking up employment here. I am fairly certain that by the summer of this year a substantial number of people in the IT area, nursing and building professionals will be availing of these visas. During my visit to India last week a number of inquiries were made to our embassy there and it is giving out information. The person has to find an Irish employer to give him or her a job. At present a number of employment agencies are in the process of identifying persons abroad with a view to offering them employment in Ireland and making an application for a working visa.

I would like some clarification. My understanding is that under this new scheme people living in foreign countries can go to the Irish embassy and say they are IT or nursing specialists and want to work in Ireland, and they do not have to be connected with an employer on this side before they get visas to come here and look for jobs. Could the Minister clarify exactly how the process will work.

Deputy Owen is wrong. They must have an employer. Clearly it would not be desirable, nor do we wish to have a situation where the Irish Ambassador or the Irish Consul, the Honorary Consul in some cases, would have to make a decision about whether a person had the appropriate qualifications. An employer will offer a job to a person from abroad. He or she will go to the embassy and be offered a working visa. If such a person does not have an offer of employment in Ireland, he or she will not get a working visa to come to Ireland.

Is that not the current position? What is new about the scheme which was announced a month ago? Currently, as I understand it, employers or their agents are abroad in Latvia and various other places looking for suitable employees. They tell them there is a job available and then they go and get their visas. What is different about this? The announcement gave the impression that this was a new system whereby some of the skill and labour shortages were to be filled by quotas. Will the Minister confirm also that a person who comes here with a two year visa can renew that visa? For how long can it be renewed? If that person is here for one year, can their family come to join them or only their spouse? Why is the Minister operating those rules when those are the rules set down for people coming to live here permanently? There is no guarantee that these people are.

We do not have working visas at present. We are introducing them now. A person can get a working visa abroad. When that person comes to Ireland and takes up employment, he or she can move from one employer to another. At present an employer makes an application and has to prove to the satisfaction of the deciding officer in the Department that he or she cannot find an Irish person or an EEA person who is qualified to do the job before being granted the permit. When the permit is granted the employee cannot move to other employment but can work only for the employer to whom the permit was granted. It is a process that obviously takes some time because of the proofs and so on that are required. Here, all that is required is for an employer, or in the case of an employment agency working on behalf of an employer, to identify people overseas who have particular skills, offer them employment and a letter to that effect and a visa will be issued.

In relation to their families, at present a person coming from a non-visa country can bring his or her spouse and family to Ireland. This procedure has been in place for some time and is similar to the procedure in the UK because of the common travel area. Others coming from visa countries cannot do so for a year. That is in line with most other European countries.

We have not made a final decision on when spouses and children can come. We are in discussions with the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. I would like to be able to facilitate people who come to the country and I would like them to be able to bring their families. Provided they are in good employment and can provide for their families, it is desirable that their families should be with them, if that is what they wish.

There is one other point.

We have exceeded the time limit for this question. Under Standing Orders we must move on.

How do we guard against a person bringing a worker here to fill one of the job vacancies, which worker will then have the freedom to move out of that—

He or she will have a working visa for two years.

We must move on to Question No. 2.

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