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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 16 May 2000

Vol. 519 No. 2

Adjournment Debate. - Rural Environment Protection Scheme.

It was brought to my attention that a small farmer in north County Meath applied for REPS in 1996 and a review took place three years later in 1999. Following inspection, a 10% penalty was imposed on the landowner for failing to trim back a hedgerow, as stated in his plan submitted in 1996.

The farmer appealed the decision to the Department of Agriculture, Food and Rural Development and his appeal was supported by the ICMSA and by the IFA. Having considered the matter, the members of the committee upheld the decision on the basis of the plan submitted by the farmer. The matter was further appealed. The first appeals officer upheld the decision on 1 April. That decision was appealed on 4 May 1999 and the committee upheld the decision. This matter was passed to a further inspector on 27 October, who carried out an inspection of the lands in question. His report stated that the hedgerow is a back double ditch with a great deal of thorn bushes growing on it as well as various mature trees such as ash, hazel, birch and sycamore. The relevant plan and the original plan stated that this hedgerow was to be breasted in year three of the REPS plan, but this decision is questionable. The hedgerow was bare on the day of inspection, but I am sure that in summer it provides good necessary shelter for the animals on this very high ground. The ground, although on the top of a hill, is very wet and heavy and evidence of machinery damage is still apparent more than one year later. There was clear evidence of hand-cutting of this hedgerow by the farmer.

The recommendation of the inspector was that it would have been contrary to environmentally friendly farming to machine this hedgerow at the expense of the soil in the adjoining field. Thus, the correct decision was taken by the farmer to discontinue this work. However, the farmer had made attempts to cut this hedgerow by hand and the hedge is in a very healthy condition generally. The inspector recommended that the penalty of 10% be removed.

What is the point in an inspector reviewing a decision taken by original inspectors and recommending a change if the Department officials do not implement that change? The farmer in question has a small farm in north County Meath. He suffered serious damage and loss last year as a result of the fodder crisis. The Minister of State might have visited that farm or the area close to it. The Minister of State, who has responsibility for this scheme, should make a blanket decision on the basis of decisions made by inspectors. If they recommend the original decision be changed, they should be the final arbiter on the matter. There were three inspections of this matter, the original appeal, one by the committee and another inspector was asked to carry out an inspection to make a decision on this matter. This is not the only such case, I have heard of many others. The Department should give a direction that in the event of a decision not being upheld on appeal, payment should be made immediately.

I apologise to the Deputy, as I was notified to reply to a different matter on the Adjournment, a matter raised by Deputy Bradford.

I accept there is a problem regarding the matter raised by Deputy Farrelly, but the views in regard to it are subjective. The Deputy did not mention the fertiliser aspect, but the requirement in this respect has been obeyed by farmers generally. Hedgerows are particularly important. That is more evident in farms where the hedgerows have been cut and the birds no longer land or nest there.

Inspectors generally do not object unless a hedgerow has been desecrated. Farmers can trim the sides of a hedgerow, but not top it. That is to enable the ash, mountain ash and other trees grow. There is nothing wrong with a farmer trimming the side of a hedgerow. I agree with the Deputy that individuals can differ on how hedgerows should be trimmed.

The Deputy referred to the imposition of a penalty of 10% in respect of the farmer in question. That is not bad considering penalties of 50% and 100%, with which I do not agree, have been imposed. There may be a case for an independent body considering appeals in this area. The payments in this respect are mainly European money and perhaps matters such as this should be decided by an independent body. The Department officials who make decisions on an application also decide on the appeals in respect of them. I am not saying there is anything wrong with their views on that matter. They have strong views, but perhaps an independent body should interpret appeals in respect of such decisions.

There has been a great take up of REPS. A total of 43,000 farmers participate in it and we want that number to increase to 60,000 in the next 12 months. As farmers increasingly engage in part-time farming, we want more of them to participate in the scheme. I accept some of them are frightened to participate in it because of the penalties imposed at times. There have been some blatant abuses of the scheme where ditches have been removed and ponds and lakelands filled with top soil and clay. In cases of such blatant abuses of the scheme, detailed inspections of farms are required. My farm was inspected three times in respect of REPS since I became Minister of State and it passed those inspections. I have been told that is a computer fact, but I am beginning to doubt it.

There are difficulties in that people have different views on this matter. We may need to address it in a different way. The imposition of a 10% penalty is not that bad, but I object to the imposition of penalties of 50% and 100%.

It has been recommended that the farmer be paid. The Minister of State should check the file tomorrow and give the man his money.

I assure the Deputy I will check it. I apologise again to the Deputy as my Department was told I was to reply to a matter raised by Deputy Bradford.

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