David Stanton
Question:34 Mr. Stanton asked the Minister for Defence if he has reviewed the height requirements for the Defence Forces; the proposals he has to make changes in this regard; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [4057/01]
Other Questions. - Defence Forces.
I last reviewed the minimum height requirement for entry to the Defence For ces in March 1998. These are set at 165 cm, 5' 5", for males and 162.5 cm, 5' 4", for females. In order to encourage an increased participation by women in the Defence Forces the height requirement for females is set in light of the natural height differential between males and females.
In setting these height requirements I was mindful of the professional advice of the Defence Forces Medical Corps and the experience of training units that persons of shorter stature encounter greater difficulties in carrying the bulk and weight of combat order equipment. However, I have asked that the matter be reviewed again with a view to ensuring that enlistment to the Defence Forces is open to as many people as possible.
Will the Minister agree that Navy personnel do not normally have to carry heavy packs, weights, etc. and that it would be an advantage for Navy personnel to be shorter given the height of the inside of ships? Will he also agree that the height requirement for the Defence Forces should be waived, as was recently done for the Garda Síochána? How many people were refused entry last year because they did not meet the height requirements?
I do not have the number refused entry last year but it might be interesting to have it checked in the context of how we proceed from here. The height requirement is related to the ergonomics of carrying equipment. I have visited the Glen of Imaal and seen the amount of equipment carried overnight etc. As I have previously admitted, I am no judge of physical strength. All I can say is that during my hurling and football days some of the people who tackled me hardest were considerably smaller than me. I will look seriously at this issue in the broader context of equality, etc. I am not sure if it can be looked at in terms of one section of the Defence Forces as freedom to engage across the services has always existed
When does the Minister think he will be in a position to make a decision on this or will it drag on?
Within two months.
I can appreciate the need to tighten the medical procedures, particularly given the Army deafness claims.
On recruitment to the Navy, a recent applicant was told at the medical examination that he had flat feet. Yet an orthopaedic surgeon verified that this would not be a factor. However, the Naval Service's medical personnel have ruled out people with flat feet. Is there any flexibility within the medical system or is it a question of stipulating that there will not be any variation?
We are straying from the substance of the question.
This is important, a Leas-Cheann Comhairle.
In fairness to the Deputy this is an interesting question. He could not possibly know everything about how I try to do things. However, he may have touched on a problem. I have tried to address this issue in a number of ways. I understand the medical requirements for the perfect human specimen to carry out an exacting and testing job. However, across society we have seen extraordinary performances from people with what appear to be some kind of physical handicap. I am searching for ways to see if we can better accommodate people who are dedicated, committed and interested in doing the job.
This chap was heartbroken because his brother was in the Naval Service. He tried every channel including orthopaedic surgeons and so on.
We are moving well away from the substance of the question.
I would ask the Deputy to bring the matter to my attention. I am interested in this area.