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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 25 Jan 2006

Vol. 613 No. 1

Adjournment Debate.

Health Services.

I thank the Leas-Cheann Comhairle for selecting this matter and welcome the fact that a female Minister of State is present. I hope she will speak with her Cabinet and Government colleagues on this issue, which relates to women. A number of women have found themselves in a situation that goes back to the hepatitis case, women who have all the symptoms of hepatitis but have not been diagnosed.

What happened in the first instance was scandalous. Let us not have a second scandal. Very few women, perhaps 100 or fewer, are affected. I know some of them myself and it is sad to see the way in which they and their families have suffered and how they have been treated by the State, which has created a great injustice for them. Many people are still walking free in this country and I hope the courts will one day deal with those who have upset so many families in respect of hepatitis.

The Government has held a number of meetings with Positive Action and I hope it will concede to the people who have been affected by the green card — the Health (Amendment) Act 2005 card — which would entitle those women to free health services, drugs, pharmacy services, home help and other specialised services they need and will need in future. I call on the Government to give the card to these women as a gesture. Simply due to the fact that it does not show in a test — they have all the symptoms — they should not need to fight any more. Many of them are currently fighting for their lives due to what has happened to them. Give them that small bit of back up, that small bit of help. There was never as much money or resources in the State. This would mean much for 100 or fewer women.

The Tánaiste and Minister for Health and Children, Deputy Harney, is a woman and has met these groups. I hope she will take the correct decision, not next year but now. They want it now. It is not an issue I like bringing up but is one that must be raised. These women have no one to speak for them as they comprise such a small group. The Government must end this matter immediately. The women are entitled to what they are looking for.

It is saddening when such people come and talk to one. I know some of them as they are my neighbours and I have seen how some women have suffered, how their health seems to have worsened over the years. I hope the Government will make the correct decision quickly. I hope we do not have the situation that occurred before, where people had to fight for their rights and fight for their lives. If fewer than 100 women are affected by this the Government should immediately give them the blue card and whatever else is needed to deal with their health problems. I hope this will be done quickly as it is wrong that such women must have meetings with the Minister for Health and Children. These women have suffered enough and this problem was not created by them. Rather, it was created by this State yet nobody has paid the price for it. I hope the people who created the problem for women will suffer because some women in this country have lost their lives.

I hope the Minister can provide a positive response as this is an emotive issue and we do not wish to play politics with it. This matter concerns women's health and lives and the effect on many families in the State. I call on the Minister for Health and Children to put the resources and money in place and provide these people with the blue card. They would prefer to have their health but that was taken from them by the State and I call on the State to do what is right for these women.

I am taking this matter on behalf of my colleague, the Tánaiste and Minister for Health and Children, Deputy Harney. The Tánaiste has asked me to inform the House that the Department of Health and Children has regular contact with the group referred to by the Deputy. The Tánaiste has had one meeting with them, in February 2005, at which this issue was discussed.

The services referred to by Deputy Ring are provided under the Health (Amendment) Act 1996. A decision regarding the entitlement of an individual to services under the 1996 Act rests with the chief officer of the Health Service Executive. Eligible persons are given a Health (Amendment) Act card, sometimes referred to as a blue card. Eligible persons are persons who, in the opinion of the chief officer, have contracted hepatitis C directly or indirectly from the use of anti-D, or the administration of blood or blood products within the State. Eligibility is determined on an individual basis, and applies for the lifetime of the eligible person. An application for services is made on a standard form available from one of the hepatitis C liaison officers in each Health Service Executive region.

The guidelines for establishment of eligibility have been set out by the Department of Health and Children, in accordance with the recommendations of the expert group on hepatitis C. Membership of the expert group includes the group referred to by Deputy Ring.

To establish eligibility the following conditions need to be met: proof of a positive hepatitis C test result, including at a minimum, a positive ELISA, antibody, test result; and proof that the infection resulted from blood or blood products administered within the State.

The issue of an extension of the Health (Amendment) Act 1996 to provide free health care for the cohort of patients referred to by the Deputy has been carefully examined and advice taken from a number of relevant sources. The exact number of women affected is not known. While the Tánaiste is sympathetic to the patients in question, she cannot support an extension to the current eligibility requirements. This position was signalled to the group at her meeting with them in February 2005. Following further analysis of the matter the Tánaiste confirmed her decision to the group in September 2005.

Job Losses.

I thank the Leas-Cheann Comhairle and the Ceann Comhairle's office for giving me the opportunity of raising this matter. I am grateful for the presence of the Minister of State at the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment, to respond to my concerns, shared by many in the Cork region but particularly those representing the Cork city area. The Minister of State may be aware that the previous Minister at his Department visited this company, GN Resound, at the end of 2002. The Tánaiste launched an expansion of activities at the company to expand the range of manufacturing, the types of products and the types of jobs available at the plant.

While that was welcomed by those who wish to see the development of economic matters in the Cork region, it is disturbing to note that since then the company has decided to move its manufacturing operations to China. This is indicative of a trend in many manufacturing industries. The Minister of State may feel pleased with news pertinent to his constituency announced this week. While announcements of new jobs in the regions are always welcomed, the distribution of such jobs and the industries they are in is something of which we must take greater cognisance.

The Cork area is reliant on the pharmaceutical, chemical and biotechnology areas. The announcement in the Minister of State's constituency is a further example of this. The region has seen a sad deterioration in high-tech, electronic manufacturing in recent years. The technology park in which GN Resound is based, on Model Farm Road, Bishopstown, on the outskirts of the city, is a sad testament to how that aspect of industrial development is not working as well as it could. The technology park has a number of empty units due to similar decisions by companies involved in manufacturing, particularly electronics. Some closed their operations for economic reasons and some for the reasons announced by GN Resound, namely, that profitability could be better obtained in a country with different economic circumstances where the workforce is prepared to be paid less.

The Government must decide to what extent such decisions represent a trend. What other type of manufacturing industry are we prepared to see leave our shores in coming years because of the effect of globalisation? It is not acceptable for the Minister of State to reply that we have high employment in this country or that announcements have been made for the Cork region in the past few days.

We must offer an industrial development policy that is varied, for the sake of workers with different skills in this economy, but also because we cannot become over-reliant on any one industry in the event of that industry being subject to economic factors in the future. We are placing all eggs in one basket and this may cause difficulties later. For the people who will lose their jobs at this company in April, what the Minister of State is likely to state in his reply, concerning high employment and recent job announcements, does not cut ice.

Besides the fact that people have been put in a disadvantageous employment situation, the company's product, hearing aids, is no longer made in this country. This will have implications for imports if this situation is repeated in other industries. Trade will be affected as well as employment. I am interested in the comments of the Minister of State at the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment in response to this.

I thank Deputy Boyle for raising this matter. GN Resound announced to its staff on 19 January 2006 that it would cease operations in Cork with the loss of 180 jobs. The company had informed IDA Ireland of this decision ten days earlier. I am conscious of the adverse effect the announcement of the closure of this company will have on the workers and their families, as well as the community. Our first thoughts are for the workforce and their families. This is extremely disappointing news, coming so early in the new year, for those who will lose their jobs as a result of the announcement. I assure the people affected that the State agencies will give every support and the priority will be to find alternative employment tor those involved. The role of FÁS, the State training agency, will be particularly important in assisting those who are to lose their jobs. FÁS will provide advice and training opportunities for the GN Resound workforce as well as making its full range of services available to all the workers.

GN Resound, a subsidiary of Danish telecommunications firm GN Great Nordic, is a hearing health care company that designs, develops, manufactures and markets technologically advanced hearing devices, digital hearing instruments, analog instruments and audiological equipment. I understand that the decision by the company to cease activities in Cork is part of a broadly based plan to consolidate its standard manufacturing and distribution into China and Denmark. The company's corporate headquarters relocated from the United States to Denmark some years ago.

The manufacturing element in Cork, which employs 120 people, will transfer to China, while the remaining activities, which include a global distribution centre, customer service and new production introduction pilot manufacture will transfer back to the company's headquarters in Denmark. The timeframe for the completion of these activities is for manufacturing to cease by 31 March 2006 and global distribution, customer service and new production introduction to cease by 30 April 2006. However, a small number of key staff members will remain at the company for a number of months. I understand that the company will offer a six week redundancy package, inclusive of statutory redundancy, plus three months health care insurance, together with an outplacement service and the establishment of an internal staff resource centre for all staff members. I trust that this will help to ease the burden on the workers affected in what is a non-union site.

Finding alternative employment for the workers affected is a priority for the State development agencies. I assure the Deputy that IDA Ireland and Enterprise Ireland as well as FÁS will play their part in developing a way forward. However, on a positive note, yesterday the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment, Deputy Martin, announced that Amgen, the largest biotechnology company in the world, has chosen Carrigtwohill, County Cork, for major new development and manufacturing investment projects. Supported by IDA Ireland, Amgen will invest more than $1 billion, equal to €820 million, in the projects and will employ more than 1,100 people in Cork by 2010. This investment is a symbol of Cork's, and Ireland's, ability to compete and win the most advanced and innovative business, coming as it does from such a big player in the biotechnology area.

In addition, Citco, the independent global financial services organisation and one of the world's leading providers of hedge fund services, will open a second Irish hedge fund administration centre in Cork and is to expand its existing data processing operation in Cork. These two developments by Citco will create more than 250 new jobs during the next four years. There were also announcements in December last by VMware, Alps Electric Company Limited and Parsons of investments and job creation in Cork city and county.

I assure the Deputy that the State development agencies, under the auspices of the Department, will continue to work closely together and with local interests to promote Cork city and county for further investment and job creation. However, I accept that this will in no way detract from the immediate concerns and needs of the workers in GN Resound.

Driving Tests.

I thank the Leas-Cheann Comhairle for the opportunity to raise this serious matter concerning my constituents in south Tipperary. Why has the waiting period for driving tests grown longer since 2005 and what does the Minister propose to do to alleviate the unacceptably long waiting periods for driving tests in Tipperary town and Clonmel?

In Tipperary town the pass rate for driving tests is 48.9% and in Clonmel the pass rate is 51.5%. This means that in both towns approximately half of all applicants fail and must then wait for another 12 months before they can repeat the test. This is unacceptable, particularly to many of the young people who live in the area and who travel to Cork or Limerick on a daily basis. Many of them approached me to explain their case for having a driving test moved forward. Their livelihoods and jobs are dependent on having a driving licence.

It returns to the ongoing problem we have had for a long time. In 2004, 370 people died on Irish roads. This figure rose to 399 in 2005. Already in 2006, 29 people are dead. Last weekend alone nine people lost their lives. Addressing the carnage on our roads requires a multifaceted approach. Improving our driving testing services is an important component of any solution. This afternoon the Taoiseach described the high number of road deaths as disappointing. What is needed now is action. I hope the Minister will deal with this important issue for my constituents, which has been ongoing for a long number of years. I hope the Minister of State will be positive in her response.

The Minister for Transport acknowledges the Deputy's concerns about the waiting lists in the Tipperary town and Clonmel test centres. On 23 January the longest waiting time in Clonmel was 51 weeks compared to 50 last December and in Tipperary town it was 58 weeks compared to 55 last December. While the Minister fully accepts that waiting times for driving tests in general are unacceptable, the increase in these centres in January was due to some of the testers based in these regions being on annual leave over Christmas and the new year. The Minister anticipates that the waiting times in these centres will improve in the short term.

Regarding waiting times in general at present 127,000 candidates await a driving test. Since 1998 the driver testing corps has been increased from 66 to 113 to deal with the additional workload. In addition, retired testers have been engaged and testers continue to work overtime. The Minister for Transport, in consultation with the Minister for Finance, has developed a package of measures to deal with the backlog of driving tests. It is the intention of the Minister for Transport, Deputy Cullen, to reduce the driver testing backlog by 80,000 by June 2007. To this end a package of measures was proposed which included a bonus scheme for driver testers, recruitment of an additional ten testers and the outsourcing of a batch of 40,000 tests.

The testing and recruitment process of the proposed ten contract testers is under way in the Public Appointments Service and 89 driver testers have signed up for the bonus scheme which is due to commence on 6 February. This is expected to deliver approximately 30,000 tests based on the commitment given. The tendering process for the outsourcing of tests has been completed and a preferred tender has been selected. No contract has yet been awarded as the matter has been the subject of conciliation at the Labour Relations Commission as unions consider the proposed outsourcing to be in breach of Sustaining Progress.

Agreement was reached at the LRC under which it was agreed that the Department of Transport would seek expressions of interest from surplus staff within the Department of Agriculture and Food for temporary redeployment as driver testers. A minimum number of 25 additional staff was required. The Department of Transport has processed the applications received and this week will interview the shortlist of ten, following which the successful candidates will be trained as driver testers. The agreement also provided that in the event of the proposal proving to be undeliverable at any stage the Department would take measures to address the backlog. My understanding is that the Department continues to pursue all options to ensure that the backlog is reduced as quickly as possible. I trust this clarifies the position for the Deputy.

School Transport.

I am grateful to the Leas-Cheann Comhairle for allowing me to raise this issue yet again on the adjournment of the Dáil. It is with deep regret and dismay that I must return to this issue, namely, the provision of school transport to a group of pupils in Blackwater, County Wexford, part of my constituency, to enable them to go to the school of their choice in Wexford. I outlined the case's details to the Dáil last November. Since then, unimaginable hurdles and obstacles of every sort have been put in the way of these children and their families. This issue has been characterised by confusion in the past weeks. I am grateful that the Minister of State is present tonight and am optimistic that her presence, as the Minister responsible, will finally bring an end to the tortuous route to which the parents and children of this area have been put in recent weeks.

A variety of maps have been produced indicating that some or all of the children are within the catchment area. A variety of maps have conjured up divisions between the VEC, which is the Department's agent in transport, Bus Éireann, which is the Department's provider, and the Department itself. It is now time for honesty and clarity. Over the decades,the Department's agent, the VEC, has determined eligibility for at least some of the pupils in question. I have a letter to hand dated 5 November 2005, in which the transport liaison officer, Clare McMahon, wrote to the parents and stated that as transport liaison officer, she had requested transport for 23 eligible students from the Blackwater area.

Unfortunately, for some inexplicable reason, the Department of Education and Science has stepped into this matter directly. It does not do so in every other area, and I do not know why it did so in this case. It claims to have a different map. I requested a copy of it and I have it to hand. However, it makes no sense. The official map has a line on it which terminates in the middle of a field. Hence, it cannot be an official map. The confusion between various maps has been the catalyst for the wild goose chase that has frustrated parents. In a freedom of information request which was answered today, the school planning section of the Minister's Department, in a letter to one of the parents, stated:

As per our conversation today, 25 January 2006, in relation to Wexford catchment area maps, I wish to clarify the following points. The map which I sent you under the Freedom of Information Act 1997 is the only map which the Department of Education and Science uses when dealing with issues relating to catchment areas... There is no map in relation to post-primary catchment areas... There is no dedicated map relating to post-primary catchment areas.

The appeal that was lodged — that was the suggested route — was summarily dismissed, although even the most regressive and restrictive reading of the official map — one of the three — which the Department states to be its own, indicates that at least some of the pupils are within the catchment area.

I have a letter from Bus Éireann, indicating two boundaries. One may take one's pick as to which line has official status. One would imagine that the agent of the Department, that is, the VEC, which has been operating from its map for 40 years and which operates everywhere else in the county, would have its judgments and its determination of eligibility for at least 23 of these pupils upheld by the Department.

The Minister of State has read the file and has met a deputation. She has spoken to the pupils and has had the opportunity to reflect on this matter. I ask her to end this tortuous process, to intervene personally and take an initiative that will allow the bulk of these pupils, who are clearly eligible under the school transport scheme, transport to their school of choice. I hope the Minister will bring an end to this ongoing frustration and will provide relief to these parents and children tonight.

I thank the Deputy for raising this matter. I welcome this opportunity to outline to the House my Department's position regarding school transport for children residing in the Blackwater area of County Wexford. By way of general comment, I should explain that one of the main objects of the school transport scheme is to provide a basic level of service for children who live long distances from schools and who might otherwise experience difficulty in attending regularly.

More than 135,000 primary and post primary pupils use the school transport scheme on a regular basis. Expenditure for school transport in 2005 was more than €122 million. The allocation for 2006 is €152 million, a 30% increase on that of last year. It includes funding towards the cost of a comprehensive package of measures which I announced last year to address the phasing out of the three for two seating arrangement on school buses.

I now wish to focus on the specific issue of transport for children attending post-primary schools. For the purposes of post primary education provision, the country is divided into catchment areas, each of which has its own post-primary centre. Under the terms of the post-primary school transport scheme, pupils are eligible for transport if they reside 4.8 km, approximately three miles, or more from the post primary centre in the catchment area in which they reside.

This speech is identical to that given on the Minister's behalf last November by the Minister of State at the Department of Health and Children, Deputy Tim O'Malley.

On such an occasion, I like to outline each of the rules and regulations that pertain.

I have them and am familiar with them.

On such occasions it is necessary to refer again to them because the Deputy has stated that he wants clarification.

This is simply repetition.

The rules and regulations concerning school transport are not always understood.

This is identical to the speech given on 22 November.

Unfortunately, I have found that to be the position, which is why I take the opportunity to highlight the rules on such occasions. Eligible pupils who wish to attend post primary schools in another catchment area may be allowed transport on school services from within the catchment boundary of the centre being attended, subject to there being spare seats available on the school transport service and at no additional cost to the State. The pupils themselves are responsible for getting to the catchment boundary or to the nearest school bus service within that catchment area.

Eligible pupils who are approved for catchment boundary transport are not guaranteed school transport for the duration of their education at that centre. As a concessionary measure, continued transport will depend on the availability of spare seats on the school service to that centre each school term.

In regard to the specific issue of transport for children from the Blackwater area of County Wexford, my Department's school transport section is satisfied on the basis of the map held in the Department, which is the definitive map——

It is the map with the line going into the middle of a field.

——that the children in question are not fully eligible for transport to schools in Wexford town. Furthermore, Bus Éireann has informed my Department that there are not enough spare seats available on the buses to facilitate the pupils in question with catchment boundary transport to Wexford town.

A number of families from the Blackwater area recently appealed my Department's decision to the independent school transport appeals board. The board upheld my Department's decision in the matter. The Deputy's question seems to imply that my Department denied the appeal. I want to make it clear that the school transport appeals board is independent of my Department and it would not be appropriate for me to intervene in cases which have been considered by the board.

The Dáil adjourned at 9.20 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 26 January 2006.
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