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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 17 Jun 2008

Vol. 656 No. 4

Dáil Sittings: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann conscious of the many serious social and economic issues facing the country, including:

the most rapid rise in unemployment ever recorded with live register figures having again gone through the 200,000 barrier;

the deteriorating economic situation reflected in the most recent Exchequer figures;

the serious problems being created for hauliers, fishermen and others by the huge jump in the cost of diesel;

the danger of increased fuel poverty for low income families as a result of increased fuel and energy prices generally;

the continuing high level of inflation with the consumer price index hovering just below 5% and mounting evidence that Irish consumers are being ripped-off, particularly by the failure of Irish branches of British based multiples to pass on the benefits of the increase in the value of the euro;

the failure of the Government to introduce the promised legislation to place on a proper statutory basis the nursing home subvention scheme;

the disclosure that more than 40,000 primary school pupils are being taught in prefab buildings;

the continuing serious shortcomings in the health service and the ongoing cutbacks, particularly in regard to community health services; and

the most recent crime figures which show a particular increase in the number of public order and homicide offences;

believes that against the above backdrop it would be irresponsible for the Government to proceed with its intention to adjourn the House for the summer recess on 3 July when so many serious issues require attention;

resolves that Dáil Éireann shall adjourn for its summer recess not earlier than 24 July and shall return not later than early September;

calls on the Government to enter into negotiations with the Opposition parties with a view to securing agreement on a substantial increase in the number of sitting days by, in particular, reducing the duration of the summer and Christmas recesses.

I wish to share time with Deputies Burton, McManus and Ó Caoláin.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

It is proposed in the motion that Dáil Éireann should not adjourn for the summer recess until 24 July at the earliest and return in early September. The country faces four major problems, the first of which is the economy. Once the pride of Europe and the envy of the world, the economy is now heading towards recession. In the past year unemployment has risen by the highest numbers in 40 years, breaking through the 200,000 mark. Prices are increasing, while economic growth is down. Related to the economic problem are the changed fortunes of the public finances. Two years ago the State had an Exchequer surplus of €5 billion. This year it has a deficit of €1.5 billion. Departments are working with the rulers to identify where cuts will be imposed.

Following last week's decision in the referendum, the country faces its largest diplomatic challenge since World War II, as we find ourselves in a new place in our relationship with the European Union. The final challenge the country faces — a factor in the referendum outcome — is the erosion of confidence in politics in the past ten years. A decade of revelations about Charvet shirts, bets on horses at race meetings that never happened and other cock and bull stories at tribunals are eventually settling not just those who were culpable but the body politic as a whole. In the circumstances it would be unthinkable and irresponsible for the Dáil to suspend public business for three months. The Government in its amendment to the motion proposes an extra week of sittings — an extra week of statements on the national development plan, with no parliamentary questions, Order of Business or Leaders' Questions. No normal parliamentary exchange for this long week of extra sittings is simply an unacceptable alternative.

I know every year there is a discussion about the summer recess and, to a certain extent, the general arguments are well rehearsed. The Labour Party has consistently argued for a lengthening of the Dáil's sitting year, one of the shortest in any parliament. The last year for which comparable figures are available is 2005 when Dáil Éireann sat for 92 days; the House of Commons for 133 days; the US Senate, 159 days; the US Houses of Representatives, 140 days, and the Chamber of Deputies in Italy, 159 days. Against this, the argument is made that no Deputy takes a holiday but works in his or her constituency while the work of the important Oireachtas committees continues until the end of July. I accept this is true. Any Deputy who takes a three-month holiday is unlikely to remain a Deputy for long, particularly in the highly competitive electoral environment in which we all must survive. However, the long summer recesses taken by the House invite a public odium on the way in which it does its business. Apart from the public odium it attracts, this year, more than any other, there is an unanswerable case for keeping the House in session and conducting the business of the Government in public. The message from the House must be that Deputies are not going on holiday because matters are serious and leave is cancelled.

For months the Government has sought to ignore the deterioration in the economy. Earlier today I was struck by the degree of denial in the Taoiseach's replies to questions on the economy. It is as if he does not get the message the rest of the country has received. The Government has sought to ignore the accumulating facts; where it cannot avoid them, it blames someone else. That simply cannot continue. We must address the pressing concerns that are creating much uncertainty and hardship among the people. For months there has been mounting evidence that Ireland is facing into a recession. The scale of the slump in house building, of the Government's own making, is such that it could drag us into a position where there will be no growth this year. Davy Stockbrokers expects 45,000 houses to be built this year and only 29,000 in 2009. As a result, the Central Statistics Office reports its index of construction employment is down by 14% in the year to April.

The downturn is no longer confined to construction. Strong evidence is emerging that expectations are falling across the economy and consumer sentiment is taking a hammering. The volume of retail sales fell in April by 3.2% when compared to that in April 2007. The ESRI index of consumer sentiment has been falling rapidly. Sluggish consumption growth has serious implications for employment, especially in the services sector. Unemployment is rising, with the live register increasing by 48,000 in the past 12 months. Since the beginning of the year, the number signing on, seasonally adjusted, has increased by 235 each day. That is the equivalent of a factory closing every day of the week.

All this has had serious implications for the public finances. It has been made much worse by the manner in which the Exchequer was allowed to become heavily dependent on the construction sector. Tax revenues for the first five months of the year were approximately €1.5 billion below those in the same period last year and €1.2 billion below target. It is clear the budget forecasts published last December are redundant, as is the economic strategy which underlay them. What is required is that the Government come to the House with a new set of budgetary tables that reflect the new realities and propose a set of actions to address them.

I do not underestimate the scale of the Government's problems. All Members must acknowledge that the public finances must be returned to a sustainable path. However, if the Government acts too quickly, it runs the risk of making the problem worse. What is required is that confidence be restored by a restatement of economic policy, including a statement of how, over several years, the public finances can be brought back into good order. The cold language of the public finances, however, will not express what all of this means for hard-working men and women and their families. It means hardship. It means worrying about how to pay the bills and meet mortgage repayments. A report published yesterday showed that 37% of people found it difficult to meet their daily bills. Another report today shows the extent to which people on low incomes are facing real fuel poverty. We know of the pressures on people in dealing with accumulated loans that must now be repaid with higher interest and we know of the concerns of people for their jobs and businesses.

We know too of the pressures on people as a result of rising prices, of people going shopping and finding the price of basic necessities like bread and milk are constantly going up. It means finding that where you once paid €40 to €50 to fill the tank in your car, you are now paying €60 to €70. Last week, RTE carried pictures of a scene from Galway which was once familiar, but which I had hoped we would never see again. These were pictures of queues outside the social welfare office — dole queues.

That is the new reality of the economy that cannot be ignored. The changes in the public finances have significant implications for public services. We already have a health service that is not working and we now know that Departments are already preparing the cuts in services which will be implemented or are intended to be implemented as a result of the change in the public finances. The Taoiseach today referred to them as "temporary adjustments". We are talking about cutbacks.

When this House goes into recess, the Government's intention is that Ministers and Departments will be deciding what public services will be cut.

We have already seen some of these cuts taking place. I refer to the decision not to proceed with and the delay in proceeding with services for the homeless. We have seen people with disabilities unable to get the carers they were promised 12 months ago. We are already seeing that those who are least able to bear the pain and those who should be least asked to bear the pain are the first to meet the knife of cuts that are already under way.

The Government's intention is to suspend the Dáil, stop public sessions of the Dáil and go into private conclave in the Cabinet rooms and Departments and to proceed with these cutbacks. The Government has no right to do this. This is public business and the situation of our economy and our public services belongs to the people as a whole and the Government should be addressing these issues on the floor of this House, putting the books on the table, putting the case on the table, setting out the options being considered so that we, the representatives of the people, can address them.

On top of these difficulties we now have the political difficulty which the country as a whole and the Government in particular must address following last week's rejection of the Lisbon treaty. It is a huge diplomatic challenge. While I acknowledge the concession made today which allows us a debate tomorrow on this issue, this is an area that requires reflection by this House and requires some time and thought to consider the many issues and responses which arose in the course of the referendum campaign.

This House needs to continue in session until late July and return in early September to resume addressing these matters. It is outrageous the Government, which has to date provided so little leadership for this country on a whole range of issues, is proposing to stand down the national Parliament for what is in effect three months, to suspend normal political activity and effectively to suspend public parliamentary debate on its own stewardship and on the problems facing the country. This should not be acceptable and is the reason the Labour Party — rather than dealing with this matter on the day the Government proposes the adjournment — has put down this motion so we can make a reasoned and I hope convincing case for the Dáil to continue in session for a longer period this year.

I thank the leader of the Labour Party, Deputy Eamon Gilmore, for putting forward this resolution, the purpose of which is to try to restore some sense of moral authority, not simply to the Government but also to the Dáil. In the good years of the Celtic tiger, this Government and its current Government partners have consistently ripped away Dáil debate and accountability. This is one of the few times that our economy is being debated in the House because the Government has become adept at debating the economy and giving the picture elsewhere. When Deputy Brian Cowen was Minister for Finance, he brought that particular art to its zenith. He was very rarely here to discuss issues. When he replied to parliamentary questions, he read pages of replies in order to leave as little time as possible for any honest debate or discussion. Part of what happened in the Lisbon treaty referendum last week is the whirlwind which the Government sowed by refusing to show moral authority. I refer to the cutbacks faced by many ordinary families, whether they are trying to decide how to meet the extra cost of fuel, whether diesel or petrol, or the extra costs in a myriad of other areas, particularly food and the supermarket shopping. There are not many members of the Government who push trolleys around supermarkets and there were not many members of the Government who stood outside supermarkets during the Lisbon campaign to talk to people coming out with their trolleys from the supermarket because if they did, they would know that ordinary families are finding it tougher to make critical decisions for themselves and their children when it comes to allocating resources and dealing with the downturn.

Mr. Owen O'Callaghan, that redoubtable Cork entrepreneur and builder and perhaps potentially one day, star of the tribunals, was quoted as saying in a headline interview in The Sunday Tribune three weeks ago that “There will be blood”. I do not know if the Minister of State with responsibility for the Lisbon treaty realised that the blood which would be all over the place would be that of the Government’s and that the people would give it a very rude awakening. In many ways the impression the Government has given in the past few days reminds me of the Bush Administration and its officials in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, an attitude of “We know what is best, we know how to deal with it”, when in fact, we have not heard any concrete and serious attempt to address the issues.

I refer to Mr. Alan McQuaid of Bloxham Stockbrokers, one of the most respected commentators on the Irish economy. He stated in a report, "that based on our figures, we are in a stagflation environment and a recession is looming." The phrase, "stagflation", takes us back to the awful period of the 1970s, brought on in part by the oil crisis and the huge rise in the price of oil. It means we have stagnant growth in jobs and output. Not only are we experiencing stagnant growth in jobs and output we are also experiencing a severe loss of jobs across the board. Stagflation means stagnation plus inflation and our inflation rate is continuing to hover all the time just below 5%. The European Central Bank does not sound as though it will bring home owners any comfort anytime soon. Given its concerns about inflation, the ECB is indicating strongly it may well continue to raise interest rates over the next six to 18 months. The pressures on the Irish economy, and all the factors the former Minister for Finance, Deputy Cowen, indicated could go wrong in his last budget, all appear to have gone wrong together. In many ways we are facing all those negatives in a difficult situation. I have no doubt Ministers are being confronted daily by the Department of Finance in what appears to be a consistent demand to cut current spending by approximately 8% or back to 2006 levels. The issue is who will bear the brunt of the cuts. As far as the Labour Party is concerned, the brunt of the coming cutbacks, which the Government is planning but will not discuss with anyone, will be borne by the weakest people in society. In addition to being unfair it also makes for really bad economics. There are people in this society who have done extraordinarily well from the boom years, but we do not need to punish vulnerable people by making their difficulties even worse.

I worry about the participation of the Greens in this Government because they do not seem to have any economic dialogue with Fianna Fáil as the leading partners. Our health service appears to be drifting hopelessly without leadership. Almost daily, the Opposition raises the lack of information in the health service, the crisis in nursing homes and nursing home payments. The notion the Dáil can toddle off to the seaside with a bucket and spade, taking holidays for two or three months or more, is obscene. There is important work to be done in trying to sort out where we are. There are plenty of positive aspects in the economy and our people have a "can do", entrepreneurial spirit. We have well educated young people and the mechanism to build the knowledge economy. We can move from this negative period into a period of better growth in two to three years' time, but only if we play our cards right and if the Government does not act punitively towards the poorest people in our society.

In order to arrive at a consensus about how to do this, the Government must be accountable to the Dáil and be prepared to debate the economy. The Government has plans concerning the national development programme, which depend largely on public private partnerships. We heard about grandiose plans for the mega-prison in Thornton Hall, involving the destruction of an existing women's prison and its relocation to the Thornton site, but we do not even have an estimate of what that is likely to cost. We had clutches of overblown elements in the national development plan but we do not even have a forum in this House to discuss the plan in detail.

I have great confidence in Irish people's ingenuity and hard work, which they have exhibited in spades for the last 15 years. People ended up voting "No" to Lisbon because they were uncertain about their future, while the Government seemed to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to them. To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, it could be said of the Taoiseach that to lose one referendum is unfortunate, but to lose two referenda is a disaster. Uniquely under his stewardship, the Taoiseach has played a primary role in the loss of two referenda.

The Deputy's time has expired.

There is one issue the Government has not addressed. Later this year or sometime next year, we may exceed the Maastricht criteria. In that case we may need to go to Brussels and discuss with our EU partners whether our national development plan's investment programme allows us to exceed the Maastricht criteria in some way. Given the way the Government has behaved, it is difficult to say whether we will have friends to count on or whether we will get a rough ride. The Government has not done a good job over the past month for the people or for the country. It was too taken up with the succession to Deputy Bertie Ahern and was paralysed as a result.

I thank the Leader of the Labour Party, Deputy Gilmore, for proposing this motion, which I hope the Government will have the good sense to accept. We face many challenges and none more essential than in the area of energy. Oil prices have reached a record $140 a barrel, which represents a 40% increase since Christmas. Commuters and road hauliers feel they are being mugged on garage forecourts given the costs they are facing. Petrol has risen nearly 7% in one month alone, while the cost of diesel has jumped by 30% in nine months. Meanwhile, when these issues are raised by Deputies such as myself, the Minister, Deputy Eamon Ryan, throws up his hands saying he can do nothing about prices. He does say, however, that he is doing something about increasing renewables and reducing our reliance on oil. Whatever about his first statement, there is a question mark over the second one he keeps making. In order to ensure we tackle our energy needs and meet our climate change proposals, we need fewer speeches and more science from the Minister. The Labour Party supports his drive to ensure that renewables play a greater part in energy generation, but that is why we are so disappointed in his dismal failure to introduce the new tariff scheme on offshore wind. The Minister announced the scheme with great fanfare in January but it has not materialised. None of the €4 billion that was to be spent by the private sector has materialised, instead of which we get speeches about climate change. We still have an enormous dependence, almost 90%, on fossil fuels and the record of broken promises on our CO2 emissions is simply getting longer.

We are seeking a strategic approach from the Government on energy. The Labour Party has published legislation for a fuel poverty strategy and has asked the Government to debate the measure in the House. Today's report from Sustainable Energy Ireland shows fuel poverty is a real and growing phenomenon in our society. Some 145,000 households are already experiencing fuel poverty. Electricity and gas bills will rise by up to 20%. This winter, the elderly in particular will not be able to keep themselves warm. As we know already, many old people die as a consequence of that lack of protection. There is a fuel poverty strategy in place in Northern Ireland and Britain, but not here in the Republic. If we cannot look after the most vulnerable people, then something is not working at the heart of Government. We need to address that in this House and not allow the Government to go on holidays.

Some people say Green Ministers are more interested in saving the planet than caring about people, but I cannot believe that is true. There is, however, a blinkered approach by the Government because Ministers are so cocooned they have no understanding of how difficult it is for ordinary people to cope with rising bills. All the evidence is that that approach will continue unless a new strategic approach is adopted by the Government to tackle fuel poverty and fast track renewables. In addition, a carbon fund is required possibly using additional VAT funding or the windfall from funding electricity generation.

The Government has a responsibility to work hard in dealing with the challenges that currently face society. This cannot be done behind closed doors but must be done in an open and democratic manner. One of the concerns people had regarding the Lisbon treaty was that it was somehow an erosion of democracy. Let us see the democracy we hold dear work in this House at this time.

On behalf of Sinn Féin Deputies, I support the Labour Party motion. Sinn Féin has long argued that comprehensive reform of the Dáil and Seanad is required, including among many other issues, shorter summer recesses. Each year the Government goes through the farce of sitting in the first week of July and returning in the last week of September in order that it cannot be said the Dáil did not meet for three months, even though it will be adjourned for all but two of the 12 weeks in question. This practice fools no one, nor will anyone be fooled by the proposal in the form of the amendment to the motion to debate the national development plan in a bogus Dáil week with no questions to the Taoiseach or Ministers.

The issues facing the country are extremely serious and need to be addressed effectively by the Government and Oireachtas. There has been an alarming rise in the number of people unemployed in the Twenty-six Counties. From January to May 2008, the number of unemployed people claiming benefit rose by almost 48,000, an increase of 31% and the biggest rise since records began in 1967. Unemployment stands at more than 200,000 for the first time in nearly a decade. This is 5.4% in the Twenty-six Counties and while the actual number unemployed is reaching the level of the 1980s, the working population is much greater so the percentage rate is lower. Nonetheless, this is a very serious situation and an indicator of fundamental flaws in the economy for which successive Governments since the mid-1990s bear full responsibility.

Some of those who advocated a "Yes" vote on the Lisbon treaty threatened voters with the prospect of widespread job losses. This threat was deeply insulting to those who lost their jobs over the past 12 months while the Government failed to take any action whatever to protect vulnerable workers and create alternative employment. If jobs continue to be lost in the months ahead, it will have nothing to do with how we voted in the referendum but will be the result of Government inaction.

A great proportion of the numbers joining the dole queue have come from the construction industry in which a slowdown was inevitable. Simply put, only so many houses can be built. However, the decline in construction has been made far worse by the reckless policies pursued by Fianna Fáil-led Governments which have placed far too much reliance on construction, in particular the private speculative housing market, for economic growth.

This was bad policy on two counts. First, it failed to meet housing needs equitably with tens of thousands of people left on local authority waiting lists for accommodation and low to middle income families unable to afford homes or else saddled with massive mortgages. Second, it was bad employment policy because it has left masses of young workers unprepared for employment in other sectors. There is now a large group of people in their late 20s and early 30s who left school a decade ago, went into relatively well paid jobs in construction during the boom years and have not known unemployment since. They are now experiencing the first shock of joblessness and many are heavily indebted thanks to the policy of easy credit. The real winners in the boom years were the biggest property speculators and developers and the rapacious financial institutions.

This requires a major change in Government policy. Workers must be retrained and local authorities financed to construct social and affordable housing, including the completion of the long promised housing redevelopments in Dublin city which have been scuppered by the pull-out of McNamara Construction from the ill advised public private partnership projects.

The new Taoiseach, Deputy Brian Cowen, recently announced the ending of the Fianna Fáil tent at the Galway Races where the party's developer friends were wined and dined for the past decade. The interests of this group still dictate Government policy and the jobless figures show the long-term consequences of handing the economy over to them. It must be reclaimed.

We must also reclaim our public services from the policy of privatisation and cutbacks. New figures show the failure of the Government and HSE, one year on from the publication of the emergency department task force report, to reduce the numbers of patients waiting on trolleys in accident and emergency departments in some of the largest hospitals in the State. Statistics provided to the Irish Medical News by the Irish Association for Emergency Medicine show numbers of patients on trolleys in accident and emergency departments are up to three times higher than this time last year. The task force was set up after the Minister for Health and Children, Deputy Harney, stated the position in accident and emergency departments was a national emergency.

We now find that five major hospitals — Beaumont Hospital, Sligo General Hospital, the Mid-Western Regional Hospital, Limerick, Portiuncula Hospital in Ballinasloe and University College Hospital, Galway — are showing significant increases in numbers on trolleys in April 2008 as compared to the same month last year. Numbers trebled in Sligo and more than doubled in Beaumont and Galway.

Today we learn that another report to the board of the HSE shows that more than 40% of all patients in hospital accident and emergency departments who required admission had to wait longer than 12 hours, the official maximum period of waiting for a bed as set by the HSE and Minister for Health and Children. In the first four months of 2007, 4,799 patients had to wait for more than 12 hours in accident and emergency before admission to a hospital bed. In the same period this year, the figure rose to 6,159. Even more alarmingly, in 2007, 786 patients had to wait more than 24 hours but in 2008 the number has increased to 1,185.

These figures expose again the glaring need to provide additional hospital beds to address this crisis. We also need to see the delivery of the promised network of primary care centres and step-down facilities to free up hospital beds at both ends of the hospital system. The Government wants to centralise virtually all hospital services to the very hospitals which are currently under most pressure. Such a disastrous policy must be reversed.

When the HSE began to impose cuts last September, including its recruitment freeze, the Minister for Health and Children, Deputy Mary Harney, and HSE chief, Professor Brendan Drumm, claimed the cuts would not affect patient care. They were proven wrong almost immediately and over the past eight months the effect of the cuts has been felt across the health services. Such is the concern at the extent of the cuts that the 28,000 members of IMPACT in the health services are on a work to rule and last week held protests at hospitals throughout the State. I commend the workers in IMPACT and other health service unions for their actions on behalf of patients and staff in our health services.

Essential improvements in services such as primary care, mental health services, care for older people and disability services are not taking place because of the HSE recruitment freeze. I highlighted in questions to the Minister recently just one area of great need which is not being properly met, namely, the shortage of speech and language therapists. While additional training places have been created, not enough posts have been put in place to meet the needs of children who require early intervention. We face the prospect of trained therapists having to emigrate to find work while children are denied the therapy they so desperately need.

The Government and HSE, even in their own book-keeping terms, are operating a false economy. The failure to develop primary care as promised leads to more dependence on our hard pressed hospital accident and emergency departments. The axing of the hospital in the home scheme leads to patients being admitted as inpatients, thus lengthening the waiting lists for beds. Inadequate services for older people and people with disabilities in their own homes leads to more people than necessary being admitted to residential care at much greater cost.

Increased fuel and energy prices are having profound and damaging knock-on effects throughout the economy and add up to 10% to many people's weekly income. The fact the Government did not raise the fuel allowance in the previous budget means those failing to meet the price of fuel before the latest increases are now suffering hugely. What are the prospects for them as the year proceeds into the autumn and winter?

I support the call of my colleague, Deputy Arthur Morgan, for the Government to immediately help those living with fuel poverty by increasing the fuel allowance accordingly. There must be action to address the high cost of diesel and its devastating effect, especially on small businesses and farming and fishing communities. All we have had so far is a shrug of the shoulders from Ministers, which is not acceptable.

I say to the Government that cuts will be resisted. The Government did not receive a mandate in the 2007 general election to impose cuts in public services. On the contrary, it promised greatly enhanced services across the board. During the referendum it treated the people with arrogance. Frankly, the Minister of State, Deputy Roche, was a great participant in that exercise. The Government asked the people to trust it and the people showed that the Government betrayed that trust, as is clearly evidenced by their clear rejection of the Government's leadership.

I move amendment No. 1:

To delete all words after "Dáil Éireann" and substitute the following:

notes that the Government through its ongoing management will continue to address the important economic and social issues facing the country over the coming months;

welcomes the Government's firm commitment to position the economy for sustainable development over the years ahead, while adapting to the reality of more moderate growth in the future;

welcomes the Government's commitment to continuing to achieve sustainable development through improving national competitiveness, as demonstrated by its maintenance of a low burden of taxation on labour and capital and by the priority that it has given to investment under the national development plan in the economy's physical infrastructure and skill levels which will enhance Ireland's productive capacity and thereby lay the foundations for future improvements in living standards;

welcomes the commitment by the Government to protect the poor and vulnerable in our society as evidenced by the significant resources allocated to the areas of health, education and social welfare over recent years; and

notes the Government's intention to publish the annual report of the NDP and agrees it will be debated in the Dáil in the week of 7 July 2008.

I understand the Minister of State, Deputy Roche, is sharing time.

I am sharing time with Deputy Cuffe.

I welcome the opportunity to contribute to the debate. I will try to focus on the issues. If the current problems, particularly on the economic side, facing this country could be resolved simply by Deputies staying at their desks over the summer period, I, for one, would break ranks and support the motion. I especially welcome the opportunity to put on the record the manner in which the Government will continue to deal with the economic and social issues that will face this country throughout the next few months and during the recess. I restate the Government's commitment to position the economy for sustainable development over the years ahead through improving national competitiveness by the implementation of appropriate policies.

One point from the Opposition side I agree with, particularly from the Labour Party leader who conducted a good referendum campaign——

I thank the Minister of State.

——is how rich it is to hear Sinn Féin at this stage recognising the damage it may well have done. I am sure Deputy Gilmore, like me, recognises that Deputy Ó Caoláin tried to do his level best——

Once again, the Minister of State is demonstrating that he simply does not know what he is talking about. Perhaps he should listen.

——to put space between his own culpability for the destruction of our economy in the months ahead, but we will come back to that.

He should keep his lectures.

In the past decade or so, Ireland has experienced unparalleled levels of economic prosperity and success, something with which Deputy Ó Caoláin does not agree.

I certainly got under the Minister of State's skin.

We have transformed our economy into one where more than 2 million people are in employment. However, as Deputies will be aware, the economy is entering a more challenging period. That is true not just of this economy but of economies around the world. Domestically, the pace of transition for new house building to more sustainable levels of output is having a significant dampening effect. Global economic developments are compounding the current situation. The credit crunch has become a global reality. A continuation of international financial market difficulties, rising food and commodity prices, adverse exchange rate movements and a general weakening of the economic outlook in several of our major trading partners will cause problems in the months and perhaps the period ahead. The impact of this combination of domestic and external shocks is reflected in the recent disappointing economic news. I agree with Deputy Gilmore that, as if all this were not enough, we now must deal with the uncertainties that have arisen as a result of last week's decision in the referendum.

Although we are facing into a number of short-term difficulties, the economic prospects beyond these still remain favourable for this country. While there are real risks, we cannot lose sight of the fact that the underlying health of the Irish economy is good and the economy has responded quickly and effectively to difficulties in the past.

In the past ten years, the rate of economic growth in Ireland has averaged 7% per annum and that is why I do not recognise where the last contribution was coming from. This very strong rate of expansion has facilitated a convergence in Irish per capita incomes to and beyond those enjoyed in other advanced economies. Among the economic strengths that underpin our economic resilience are that the public finances are sound, with one of the lowest levels of debt in the euro area. This is something that we must continue to protect. We must learn from the mistakes of the past. The soundness of our public finances will allow for the continuing maintenance of a framework of macro-economic and budgetary stability which will be crucial in the years ahead. It is important that we defend this position in the months ahead and that we focus particularly on sound public finances.

In addition, our markets are flexible, allowing us to respond quickly to difficulties, we have a dynamic and well educated labour force, we have a pro-enterprise oriented society and the taxes for workers and businesses are low. We must ensure that we keep our taxes that way. Not many countries in the world are facing the present economic difficulties from such a position.

On a further positive note, through the progressive delivery of the productive investment priorities in the national development programme, the Government is helping position the Irish economy to take advantage of a future upswing in the global economy, improve our competitiveness and provide a better quality of life for everybody in the country. The investment in economic infrastructure and human capital will help boost the productive capacity in the economy.

This perspective on the positive medium-term outlook for the Irish economy has been shared recently by the Economic and Social Research Institute in its Medium Term Review 2008-2015. Due to our sound economic management and the underlying health of the economy, the institute agrees that the Irish economy is flexible and resilient and has the ability to absorb a downturn.

On the issue of employment, a number of Deputies referred specifically to the downturn in recent times. It is worth reminding ourselves that over the past decade employment has continued to grow dramatically. It has risen to the point where there are 2.1 million at work at present. When we joined the European Union, in spite of the advices from the Sinn Féin Party, fewer than 1 million people were at work. This improvement has resulted in halving the unemployment rate from 10% over the most recent period. We all are aware of the impact that unemployment has on those directly affected as well as on their families and on the wider communities in which they live. The recent increases in unemployment are deeply regrettable. However, despite the recent upturn in unemployment, Ireland still has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the euro area. It is generally accepted that the strong rate of employment growth experienced in recent years could not continue and the economy is entering a period of adjustment.

While the slowdown in house building has resulted in increased unemployment in this area, overall employment is forecast to continue to grow. The big challenge for us in the period immediately ahead will be to deal in particular with people who need to upskill. FÁS is providing a range of job-related services, supports and programmes to assist people to remain in the labour force.

On recent developments, we are all aware that Ireland is a small open economy. It is simply a reality that we are a price-taker, not a price-fixer, and the prices we must take will obviously have inflationary impacts. In the short to medium term, what the Government can do includes implementing responsible fiscal policies and promoting competition and increased price transparency through the work of the Competition Authority and the National Consumer Agency, which can address some of the negative impacts of the prices we must take. Over the longer term, the considerable investment in public infrastructure undertaken by the Government will enhance our ability to produce more goods and services on a more economic basis.

From a competitiveness perspective, I stress the importance of ensuring that the externally-driven price increases that we are currently experiencing are not exacerbated by internally-generated second-round effects. Deputy Burton made the point about stagflation, and she will recall that this was precisely the formula that caused stagflation in the 1970s.

Deputy McManus made a fair point about fuel prices. The reality is we are experiencing an international phenomenon that will have an impact. However, it is not truthful to suggest, as was suggested, that the Government has been unconscious of this. Measures are in place to help those in greatest need under the national fuel scheme. The household benefits package includes a free electricity or gas allowance. The gas allowance was extended in the 2008 budget. The supplementary welfare allowance scheme provides additional mechanisms.

It is fair to say we are going through a period of unprecedented economic turmoil. The most important response we can have to this is to ensure we keep our heads in terms of economic policies, that we keep a particular focus on strong public finances and that we do not fall back into the ways of the past and borrow to try to deal forward. It is critically important, therefore, that in more challenging times we do not take the wrong steps, steps so frequently advocated by Sinn Féin, in particular.

Going back to the point about the referendum last week, I agree this adds an additional challenge but we have shown in the past that we are capable as a nation, a people and as a Government of dealing with challenges. We look forward to doing that in the months ahead.

I welcome the Labour Party's motion in so far as it draws attention to some of the issues the country faces. There is a duty on the Opposition to propose as well as oppose.

We are proposing.

Reading through the motion, I see scant evidence of any clear direction for the country. I see concern about unemployment, the high price of diesel and inflation which is more or less the same as the kind of conversation one would have in the pub on a Friday night. There is, however, a need for the Labour Party to put forward its alternative vision of how this country should operate in difficult economic times.

We are doing that.

I do not see evidence of that in the motion.

The Deputy should read it.

I read it several times.

I am glad to see the Green Party's commitment to an increase in Dáil sitting times come through the House today. The Dáil will sit for an extra week in July to discuss the results of the Lisbon referendum and the prevailing economic situation. That is movement in the right direction. If we were to propose sitting for several more weeks into July, there would be discomfort on the Opposition benches.

The Deputy should try us.

The Deputy should support our motion.

In previous times there was chatter about a wish to sit longer but Deputies opposite should not go too far.

That was among the Deputy's own people.

The issues outlined in the motion are important and they require a strong hand on the tiller in a time of crisis. I am bewildered that Deputy Ó Caoláin believes the result of the Lisbon referendum has absolutely no bearing on a clear direction for the State of Ireland ship. If one reads any of the international press over the past few days, one will see that the indecision arising from the Irish result feeds into a significant difficulty for Ireland in Europe and on the world stage. What is needed is clear direction, particularly in times of economic difficulty.

The Opposition motion suggests nothing has changed and that there has been no response to some of the issues. From our perspective and that of my colleagues who sit at the Cabinet table, changes have been made for the better which will result in the economy and the people being able to face difficult economic times with more confidence. We have racked up the building regulations by 40% over the past year. That is a significant step towards dealing with increasing fuel prices. We have made changes to the green homes scheme which will lead to a significant improvement in the quality of the building stock not only for the well-off, but for those on lower incomes. The increased funding for the warmer homes scheme and the new pilot schemes will allow people to see very clearly the energy saving after the changes have been made. I am mindful of the memory of throwing money at the problem when 20 or 30 years ago every second timber sash window in the country was taken out and replaced with PVC windows. That was not money well spent. One must be very careful and targeted with the funding spent in those areas.

The new vehicle registration scheme will kick in this month. That will lead to consumers being much more conscious of the economy and the carbon emissions of the vehicles they drive. That will change consumer behaviour and the behaviour of the very large international companies selling goods in Ireland. I note the motion rails against the high prices being charged by British multiples. Perhaps we should look at changes in labelling to better reflect the value of what is on offer in the marketplace.

The Labour Party also talked about price tariffs for wind energy from offshore wind. It is very important we get the balance right there because if we reward those providing offshore wind at an unreasonably high tariff, those costs will be passed on directly to the consumer. It is crucial we get the balance right rather than jump into this without carefully looking at the costs and benefits.

The Government's response to the Labour Party motion has been carefully considered. It is much more important to propose rather than oppose and wring one's hands at the state of the economy.

I welcome the opportunity to make a brief contribution to a very important debate and like my Green Party colleague, Deputy Ciarán Cuffe, I commend the Labour Party in that regard. I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Dick Roche, for sharing his time and commend the Government amendment. It is important we welcome the Government's commitment to increase the number of Dáil sittings in July, which the public will want. Deputy David Stanton might have to cancel his holidays but I have not had to do so. I will be happy to be here, and it is important we are here. For a few weeks after the Dáil rises, we will all be at committee meetings dealing with the business of the country and of our communities, which is important. Let us not be too cynical. The decision will be welcomed and it will be interesting to see how the media handles it tomorrow.

Other colleagues spoke about the events of the past week. I am as disappointed as anybody. There was a very strong "No" vote in Dublin South-West, as there has tended to be in referenda over the years. Our job is to try to get our message across, which I have been doing over the past few days. As I went about Dublin South-West, particularly the Tallaght region, over the past few days, people were not talking to me about the aftermath of Lisbon as much as the issues which concern them, such as the economy, jobs, infrastructure and facilities. I wish the Minister for Finance, Deputy Brian Lenihan, well because he will have a difficult few months and will have to wrestle with the challenges of the economy.

Other colleagues will make important points in this debate but I always go back to my political roots and am always reminded of the work of my predecessor, Chris Flood. Regardless of the state of the economy, particularly in times which may be more challenging than usual, we must remember our commitment to social inclusion policies. I live in a constituency in which I have always sung that particular hymn. In the current political and economic climate, it is important we remember that. I hope the Fianna Fáil-led Administration will continue to do what the party has always done, namely, to look after the vulnerable and those who are under much pressure.

My fellow Dub, the former Taoiseach, Deputy Bertie Ahern, often used to say in regard to social inclusion that at a time when all boats are rising, we must remember the little boats. If all boats are being somewhat battered, although I am quite confident about the Government's ability to deal with that, we must also remember the little boats. I will say to the Minister for Finance and his colleagues, in particular, the Minister for Social and Family Affairs, that, as we move towards budget time, we must remember the need to continue to finance education, health and social welfare in a special way and that we must look after the vulnerable and those who will need our help even more. I am glad to welcome the commitment in the Government amendment to protect the poor and vulnerable in our society as evidenced by the significant resources always allocated to the areas I mentioned.

I refer to disability because it is important we recognise the need to look after the vulnerable in our society, which we continue to do. I often examine the programme for Government to ensure we are going in the right direction. I read today that on disability matters the Government is determined, according to the programme, to continue to prioritise the interests of people with disabilities over the next five years through a series of significant measures. The Government is committed to ensuring that the strategy is driven and managed from a whole of Government perspective and it will be overseen and supported by the Department of the Taoiseach. I expect the Government will honour these commitments. I know the disability community is awaiting a decision by the Department of Health and Children on the release of €50 million which was to be made available this year and I hope the Minister for Health and Children will examine this. Even at a time when the economy is being challenged, let us look after those we should be looking after.

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for the opportunity to speak on the motion. In recent years we have considered several motions addressing the economy. As we face into the second half of 2008 there is a significant difficulty facing the country as the external economic environment is very difficult and I know the Government and the Department of Finance are seriously examining this difficulty. The challenge we face is to ensure we protect our small, open economy from the external difficulties of international financial markets, oil and the credit crunch.

The economy has done very well over the past ten to 12 years and built on the educational success of previous generations. We have seen significant growth in opportunities for our young people. The challenge facing the Government, for which it and the new Minister for Finance, Deputy Brian Lenihan, are well equipped, is to ensure it does not allow itself simply to throw money at the problem. We must ensure that money is targeted.

I am glad the Government motion seeks to ensure there is a commitment to the poor and vulnerable in society and that there are sufficient resources allocated in the areas of health, education and social welfare. The previous speaker mentioned social inclusion. Many of the projects involving partnerships for social development throughout the country in both urban and rural areas have demonstrated a great definition of social inclusion. Many people who were outside the workforce, or had no way of getting into the workforce through the various social inclusion policy measures implemented by this and previous administrations, have been brought back into it and have got a great buzz and sense of achievement. It is important that we continue with these measures.

It is most important as we face into uncharted waters and difficult times that the fundamentals of the economy are far stronger than they have ever been in our history. It is important that the bedrock of our economy is maintained. We have a well educated workforce which is one of our strongest assets and has helped to build our economy. The Government is committed to ensuring that the opportunities for people of every age in our country in recent years are maintained. However, the Government and the Oireachtas will have to take difficult decisions in certain areas. They will make sure the decisions are effective and will ensure the fundamentals of our economy remain strong so that we can escape these difficult times and the difficult economic outlook we face.

In a positive report recently the Economic and Social Research Institute underlined in its medium term review that the economy is healthy and strong. The institute agrees that the Irish economy is flexible and resilient with an ability to absorb the downturn. It is important that we understand this and ensure the economy continues to be strong, open and flexible. At the same time we should be mindful of the issues of social inclusion and the weaker in society. I thank the Ceann Comhairle for the opportunity to speak and I commend the Government's motion to the House.

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for the opportunity to speak. It was with disappointment that I heard the opening speeches of the Labour Party which continued its old mantra of attacking the Fianna Fáil Government and trying to make the point that Fianna Fáil did not look after the less well off in our society. However, the evidence is that the last Labour Minister with responsibility in that area gave an increase to social welfare recipients of 79 cent. The records will show that, even in the toughest of times, Fianna Fáil led Governments gave social welfare increases greater than the rate of inflation. We will continue to do this as it has been one of the bedrocks of our party. Over the past ten to 15 years there has been growth in our economy greater than that of any other country in the European Union, even more than 7%.

Employment has risen by 64% since 1995 and more than 820,000 people have come into the employment market. There are now over 2 million people working in the economy, a factor we must not forget. The rate of unemployment has come down from 12% in 1995 to 5.4% last month. However, there is a change in the economy. The house building industry has contracted, with serious effects on the tax take and levels of employment, but we must not see this as a doom and gloom situation. The economic forecasts from general economic commentators state that there will be growth of up to 2% this year in the economy, which will still represent one of the highest growth rates in the European Union.

It is untrue to say that the Government did not warn about what was coming down the tracks. In the last budget it was made clear by the Department of Finance that there were going to be restrictions in the economy and weaker economic times approaching. It pointed out clearly that international financial market difficulties had intensified; the exchange rate had appreciated significantly, which undermined our competitiveness; oil prices had risen to an all-time high and continue to rise; and that global inflation had picked up, reducing the scope for many central banks to stimulate demand through lowering nominal interest rates.

We must regain competitiveness, which is crucial to the future of the economy. We are an export based economy, exporting between 85% and 90% of GDP and we must continue in that vein. The fundamentals of our economy, as has been pointed out by many speakers, are strong. We have a dynamic and well educated labour force. Our markets are flexible, allowing us to respond efficiently to adverse developments, and we have a pro-business, outward looking society. Our public finances are sound with one of the lowest levels of debt in the euro area. The tax burden on both labour and capital is low and participation in the EMU provides insulation against currency speculation.

When I worked in the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment, I was involved in drawing up innovation policy. That policy statement was put before the Government several months ago. It shows that the significant and sustained investment in human capital, physical infrastructure and commercialisation of research is beginning to bear fruit. We must continue to invest in that area to ensure our educational institutions produce the numbers of educated young people needed to develop our economy and our industry. Investment in education at all levels must not be curtailed because it is the lifeblood of the future of our economy. It is essential if the economy is to grow in the years ahead.

I wish to share time with Deputies Stanton and Breen.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

I would like to speak in favour of the Labour Party motion, which raises three essential issues — the relevance of this Parliament; public trust in politics and politicians, given the way we behave; and the key social and economic challenges we face. While it may not be wise to include all three issues in one motion, that has been done and we have to debate them. I propose to address them separately.

The first issue is the relevance of this House as a functioning Parliament. Deputy Timmins and I called for the adjournment of the proceedings of the House under Standing Order 32 to discuss the decision of the people, by referendum, not to ratify the Lisbon treaty. While I respect the decision made by the Ceann Comhairle not to accede to our request, I do not agree with it. I feel that the Members of the House should have been given an opportunity to discuss this important matter, which is not only one of the major news items of the day in Ireland, but is also on the front pages and editorial columns of every newspaper in Europe. We were told today in this House that it is not a matter of national importance. Instead, we are considering legislation we have been discussing for weeks, as well as this motion, which could have been considered any week, quite frankly. That this Parliament is becoming so irrelevant to politics and the real world around us is an indictment of us. It damages this House and this democracy much more than we realise.

The House will debate the Lisbon treaty tomorrow, in the form of statements. We all know that will involve politicians coming to the Chamber, speaking to themselves, getting recorded in the Official Report and perhaps being quoted in The Irish Times. In a real parliament, we would have an opportunity to make statements if we really wanted but, more importantly, the Minister for Foreign Affairs would take questions and engage in a proper discussion of what is important. The Minister for Health and Children is the only Minister in the Government who has the courage and the balls, quite frankly, to do that. Since I was elected to this House, she has come to the Chamber on two occasions to answer hard questions on issues such as cancer services. The other Ministers between them do not have the courage of that one woman. No other Minister is prepared to make himself or herself accountable before the House. For example, the Minister for Transport, Deputy Dempsey, absolutely refused to come to the House to explain the driving licence fiasco. It is a real shame. I am being non-partisan by pointing out that at least one member of the Cabinet believes in Parliament and has the courage to be accountable to it. No other Minister is prepared to do that. Our Parliament is irrelevant because it does not ensure that Ministers are accountable.

The Dublin Transport Authority Bill 2008 and the motion on the proposed prison at Thornton Hall are being guillotined in the House today. The discussion on them is being limited. Opposition parties are given just three hours of Private Members' time each week in which to set the agenda. I was about to say that smaller parties like the Labour Party and Sinn Féin should be given more time, but perhaps they do not deserve it because there is no Labour Party Deputy present for this part of the debate on a Labour Party motion. Such parties get an opportunity to raise and discuss issues once every six weeks. There is plenty of scope for longer sittings, which would give the Opposition more time to raise important issues. The leader of the Labour Party mentioned earlier that the House of Commons meets 133 days a year and the US Senate meets over 150 days a year, but this House meets less than 100 days a year. While Italy is not the hardest working country in Europe when it comes to other sectors of the economy, its parliament is different, given the Italian Chamber of Deputies meets 160 days a year.

During the debate on the Lisbon treaty referendum, many people suggested that the EU is not democratic and that more democracy is needed at EU level. The European Union is a damn sight more democratic than Ireland. The European Parliament actually has power. It defeats the European Commission on certain issues, changes legislation, sits for longer periods of time, does not have a party whip, is not controlled by the Government and is not a rubber stamp for the Commission. The European Union is much more democratic than Ireland. The European Parliament is a lot more powerful in the EU system than the Oireachtas is in the Irish system. The Government controls and prorogues our Parliament because it does not want it to function. Essentially, it wants a one-party State and a rubber-stamp Parliament. Such a system is probably more suited to an African country then a European one, but it is essentially what we have. It is like the Congress of People's Deputies of the Soviet Union. We have a show parliament that does not really function. As someone who came from county council level, where real decisions were made and one could win a vote by the strength of one's argument, it is frustrating for me to find that does not happen in the Dáil. The proposal to go on holidays for three months exposes to the world the irrelevance of this House. It underlines the fact that the Government does not want it to be relevant.

I support the Labour Party's proposed sitting hours. We do not need to sit until 8 p.m. or 9 p.m. each night. We could finish early. Most people finish work at a reasonable time like 6 p.m. We could do that. It is very difficult for women with families to participate in politics because they are unfairly expected to be here until 8 p.m. or 9 p.m. — or 10 p.m., as it is tonight. Such sitting hours remain from the old days of gentlemen politicians or barristers who spent the day in the Law Library before coming here to talk about the grave issues of the day. Rather than having 12-hour and 15-hour sessions, why not have an eight-hour or nine-hour day, like most people? Such shorter sitting days should be spread more evenly throughout the year. We should have proper committee weeks in which committees sit but the House does not meet in plenary session. Members are aware of the rushed 90-minute committee meetings we have at present. If somebody calls a vote in the Dáil, committee meetings have to be suspended and everybody has to run to the Chamber to vote. That is no way to do business. We could have the same number of sitting weeks, as well as distinct committee weeks. We could also have party weeks. If Members do not want to be here for party political weeks, they will not have to be. Such weeks should be provided for. Political parties have very little time to meet and discuss strategies and policies. Today's meeting of the Fine Gael Parliamentary Party took place at 5.30 p.m., at the same time as a debate in this Chamber. The meeting had to break up when a vote was called here. We do not get any credit for the crazy workaholic 13-hour days we work. The work of Parliament should be done in eight-hour days which are spread over a longer period of time. That is what is done in other countries.

Public trust in politics and politicians is at an all-time low. As someone who works as a doctor in my other life, I really see the difference. I am the same person when I am a doctor as I am when I am a politician. When I am a doctor, I am treated with undeserved respect and confidence, for some reason I do not fully understand, and I am paid a hell of a lot more. When I am a politician, I am treated like a lazy pariah and liar who does no work. I am paid much less as a politician than I am as a doctor. I am begrudged very penny I earn as a politician by people, including journalists, who earn much more than me. That is a real problem for us. The people's low opinion of politicians is one of the reasons the Lisbon treaty was defeated. While that opinion is mostly undeserved, it is partly deserved as a consequence of the way this Parliament acts. I refer to the long holidays we take, the unaccountable way in which we are paid our expenses and the fact Ministers, if not ordinary Deputies, are prepared to award themselves massive pay increases at a time when most people are facing tighter budgets.

We should not forget the serious impact of the tribunals. I do not think it is just a question of the cost of tribunals, although that is an issue. People would be prepared to bear the cost if they believed there were consequences resulting from the tribunals. There are no consequences, however. A former Taoiseach has gone to the tribunal and essentially given the John Gilligan defence — that he won the money on the horses. This is a defence for drug dealers and pimps and not the kind of thing that should be tolerated from a former Taoiseach and Member of this House. We do nothing, we wash our hands and say it is a matter for the tribunal. There is no system of accountability or ethics, and we ask ourselves why people have such a low opinion of politicians. People have such a low opinion of politicians because we will not root out the rotten apples in our own barrel, and we allow them to contaminate our entire system.

I welcome this motion. I did not get a chance to talk about some of the key social and economic challenges we face. Deputy Stanton will do that. It is important that we get real. Politics in this country is falling apart. We must show the people we work hard and that our work is relevant. We must begin to restore trust in politics and this is one way of doing it.

I am pleased to have an opportunity to speak on this motion. Last week should have been a wake-up call for politics in Ireland. There was a great deal of talk during that week about accountability, democracy and so on. That has to start here in this House.

As I look around, there are four Members in the Chamber. The Minister of State, Deputy Haughey, was not in the House when this debate commenced. His colleague, Deputy Roche, came into the House and told us we were facing "unprecedented economic turmoil", then left the Chamber. Deputy Cuffe arrived into the Chamber, castigated all of us, particularly the Labour Party, for tabling this terrible motion, and then scurried out. Debate means coming into this House and listening to what people have to say, then refuting, agreeing or disagreeing with it. To do otherwise is not to debate an issue. We might as well swap e-mails. This is happening over and over again in regard to most of the work done in this House. Very few Members come to the Chamber to listen to what is said. There is no debate on issues. We could shut the House down and simply correspond by e-mail. Not one of our media friends is present in the public gallery for this debate. I will probably be lambasted in the press next week for attacking a sacred cow.

The Government has stated the Dáil will sit an extra week, but that will not be the case because we have already lost a week as a result of the referendum on the Lisbon treaty, and rightly so. It is proposed that during this extra week the House will debate the national development plan, but there will be no debate. People will simply come in, say what they have to say and scurry out again. There will be no Question Time and no Order of Business, and that is not good enough.

Muiris MacCarthaigh in his book Accountability in Irish Parliamentary Politics stated that Dáil Éireann cannot oversee Government when it is not in session. That the Cabinet continues to meet during periods of recess is identified as a particular problem. In Westminster the Cabinet does not meet when the Houses are in recess. How can we as a Parliament oversee Government work when we are not sitting? The Government carries on. Government is to a greater extent treating this House and Parliament as a rubber stamp, a nuisance and something that has to be got over.

Decision-making patterns that have developed in recent years have effectively by-passed Parliament. Agreements between the Government and social partners are presented as a fait accompli. Ratification of the Lisbon treaty would have allowed us to scrutinise EU decisions before they were taken. That cannot happen now. The rulings of the courts change the law.

Deputy Charlie O'Connor told us earlier what the Government will do in respect of disabilities. What he and Deputies from all sides should be doing is holding the Executive to account in this regard. What is happening now is that the Executive is controlling the Dáil. It decides when the Dáil sits, what it discusses and when it discusses it. The Dáil is simply a convenience for the Executive and that should not be the case. The Whip system in other parliaments is not as rigid and as such Members can voice their opinions freely.

The people are sick and tired of what is going on here. As stated earlier, we will go on holidays in a few weeks' time for three months. That is appalling. Many Deputies have stated that Members work hard. What will Deputies do for the three months the House is not sitting? There will be no parliamentary questions to be prepared and no debates to attend, and we are no longer members of local authorities. What will Deputies do? The Dáil should meet up to the end of July and should return in early September as suggested by the Labour Party.

There is no point in being here unless we reform how this House operates. Deputy Varadkar spoke about committee meetings and how one often has to leave a meeting to attend a vote in this House. That must change. We must give more power to the committees. We could hold plenary sessions in the morning and then adjourn to attend committees. Members should attend committees, as should the media who should report on them. If we do not do that we could see other forces in this country beginning to surface. The Minister of State, Deputy Roche, told us we are heading into unprecedented economic turmoil. Extreme forces, left and right, could surface and find fertile ground if we fail them. There is a huge responsibility on us to bring about reform. Unfortunately, given that the Government controls what happens in this House, only it can engage in real reform.

The Ceann Comhairle earlier this year initiated a series of discussions on Dáil reform which are worthwhile and welcome. Most of those discussions relate to Dáil Standing Orders. Another issue that needs to be examined is the number of quasi unelected authorised non-governmental organisation quangos established by the Government. They are unaccountable to anyone, particularly this House. Members seeking information about such agencies by way of parliamentary question are told the Minister no longer has responsibility for them. How then is a Member to hold such a body to account? It cannot be done. These quangos are financed by taxpayers' money yet we cannot question them except every once in a while when they attend a committee for a cosy chat. Ministers should be answerable in this House for the work of these quangos established by the Government. The Government has hived off power to these quangos and has filled their boards with their friends. The former Taoiseach, Deputy Bertie Ahern, said he appointed particular people to boards because they were his pals. He did so not because they had any particular skill, qualification or experience but because they were his pals. That is not good enough.

The proceedings of the Dáil will, we are told, be televised in 2012, not that far away. God help those who are Members then if things have not changed because the public will not put up with what is happening in this House. As Deputy Varadkar stated, politicians and politics are of low standing in this country. That should not be the case. The Government needs to engage constructively and positively with Members on all sides of the House in regard to what we do and how we do it.

Deputy Michael Ahern spoke about a 2% growth in the economy. I am not sure that will be the case. Deputy Burton, when speaking, reminded me of the perfect storm. What is facing this Government and the country now is rising unemployment, rising interest rates, rising fuel costs and massive discontent and pressure on our people in terms of rising food prices and so on. We need to get our act together. As representatives of the people, we need to debate and discuss these issues in this House. We cannot do so effectively at present given the constraints on us in terms of the procedures in this House. Those procedures must change soon.

One way of addressing this issue is to establish an independent group to examine within a particular timescale what is going on in this House. While we can address issues such as how questions are taken and so on, we may need to ask what is the role of the Dáil in the 21st century, what should we be doing and how should we be doing it? I contend we should include ourselves, academics, the media, public officials and the public in such a debate. That was done in Canada a number of years ago and it was a great success.

The Deputy's time has expired.

We should do it here too. In the meantime we should change some of our Standing Orders and procedures to ensure this House is more efficient. That is urgent.

Debate adjourned.
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