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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 6 Dec 2012

Vol. 785 No. 3

Order of Business

It is proposed to take No. 1, motion re Standing Orders Relative to Private Business; No. 12a, Supplementary Estimate for Public Services [Vote 37] (back from committee); No. 19, Financial Motions by the Minister for Finance 2012, motion 15 (resumed); and No. 17, Statements on the Report of the Expert Group on the Judgment in the A, B and C v. Ireland Case (resumed). No. 17 will be taken not later than 4.30 p.m. today and adjourn not later than 9.15 p.m.

It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that the Dáil shall sit later than 5.45 p.m. tonight and shall adjourn on the conclusion of Topical Issues. The sitting shall be suspended at 3 p.m. for 30 minutes. Topical Issues shall be taken on the adjournment of No. 17 and Nos. 1 and 12a shall be decided without debate. In the case of No. 12a, any division demanded thereon shall be taken forthwith. The following arrangements shall apply for the resumed debate on No. 19: the speech of the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and the leaders of Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, or persons nominated in their stead, who shall be called upon in that order, shall not exceed 30 minutes in each case and such Members may share their time and the speech of each other Member called upon, who may share his time, shall not exceed 15 minutes in each case. The Dáil shall sit tomorrow at 10.30 a.m. and shall adjourn not later than 4 p.m. and there shall be no Order of Business within the meaning of Standing Order 26 and accordingly, the business to be transacted shall be as follows: No. 2, Transport (Córas Iompair Éireann and Subsidiary Companies Bill 2012 [Seanad] - Second Stage, which shall if not previously concluded be brought to a conclusion at 1.30 p.m.; and No. 17 Statements on the Report of the Expert Group on the Judgments in the A, B and C v. Ireland Case (resumed).

The Dáil shall sit on Monday, 10 December 2012 at 10.30 a.m. and shall adjourn not later than 4.30 p.m. and there shall be no Order of Business within the meaning of Standing Order 26 and accordingly the business to be transacted shall be: No. 17, Statements on the Report of the Expert Group on the Judgment in the A, B and C v. Ireland Case (resumed).

The Dáil shall meet on Tuesday, 11 December 2012 at 11 a.m. and the business to be transacted from 11 a.m. until 1.05 p.m. shall be No. 16a, motion re proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of the State Airports Act 2004 (Shannon Appointed Day) Order 2012, the proceedings on which shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion at 1.05 p.m. and the following arrangements shall apply: the opening speeches of a Minister or Minister of State and of the main spokespersons for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that order, shall not exceed 15 minutes in each case and such Members may share their time, the speech of each other Member called upon, who may share their time, shall not exceed ten minutes, and a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a speech in reply which shall not exceed five minutes; and the sitting shall be suspended on the conclusion of No. 16a or at 1.05 p.m., whichever is the later, until 2 p.m., whereupon the normal order of the day shall commence with Oral Questions.

There are six proposals to be put to the House. Is the proposal that the Dáil shall sit later than 5.45 p.m. tonight and shall adjourn on the conclusion of Topical Issues, and the sitting shall be suspended at 3 p.m. today for 30 minutes agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for taking Topical Issues and Nos. 1, motion re Standing Orders relative to Private Business, and 12a Supplementary Estimate for Public Services [Vote 37], without debate agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 19, Financial Motions by the Minister for Finance, agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for the sitting and business of the Dáil tomorrow agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for the sitting and business of the Dáil on Monday next agreed?

It is not agreed. I presume it is deliberate that we are being afforded so little time to debate the budget. Next week, as we know, will be taken up with the social welfare Bill. We have had some debate on the expert report and while I fully appreciate that more consideration is necessary, at a minimum we need to change the order for Monday to allow Members of the Dáil to have a full debate on the provisions of the budget. It would be very ironic if this was being discussed everywhere throughout the length and breadth of the country bar in here. I ask that the Government reconsider the order for Monday and make allowance for that debate.

I cannot change the order for Monday.

The Deputy will be aware that it was she and others who sought that we would make special provision, as we have done, to discuss the report of the expert group on the A, B and C v. Ireland case. Uniquely in my experience, we will be sitting for five days next week. Apart from that, the social welfare Bill, a central part of the budget, will be taken next week as will the property tax Bill on Friday. There will be more than adequate time for whatever contributions the Deputy wants to repeat. If she believes that is inadequate, I am happy to ask the Whips to facilitate her and leave it open-ended if that is what she wishes. However, we cannot change the order for Monday.

A Cheann Comhairle-----

I am sorry, we cannot have a debate.

I am asking for your guidance on this matter. It is not to facilitate me, but to facilitate the Members of the Dáil. This is a democratic forum and it is a budget. Why can the business not be reordered? Can you give us clarity on that?

Government business is set by the Government.

We have a member of the Government sitting opposite.

We cannot amend it. The Deputy can object to the proposal as she is doing. If there is a majority in favour of that objection, then the business can be changed. It is my business to put the question.

Question put: "That the proposal for dealing with No. 5 be agreed to."
The Dáil divided: Tá, 78; Níl, 41.

  • Bannon, James.
  • Barry, Tom.
  • Breen, Pat.
  • Burton, Joan.
  • Butler, Ray.
  • Buttimer, Jerry.
  • Byrne, Eric.
  • Cannon, Ciarán.
  • Carey, Joe.
  • Collins, Áine.
  • Conaghan, Michael.
  • Conlan, Seán.
  • Connaughton, Paul J.
  • Conway, Ciara.
  • Corcoran Kennedy, Marcella.
  • Costello, Joe.
  • Coveney, Simon.
  • Creed, Michael.
  • Daly, Jim.
  • Deasy, John.
  • Deering, Pat.
  • Doherty, Regina.
  • Donohoe, Paschal.
  • Dowds, Robert.
  • Doyle, Andrew.
  • Durkan, Bernard J.
  • English, Damien.
  • Farrell, Alan.
  • Feighan, Frank.
  • Flanagan, Charles.
  • Flanagan, Terence.
  • Hannigan, Dominic.
  • Harrington, Noel.
  • Harris, Simon.
  • Heydon, Martin.
  • Humphreys, Heather.
  • Humphreys, Kevin.
  • Keating, Derek.
  • Keaveney, Colm.
  • Kehoe, Paul.
  • Kelly, Alan.
  • Kenny, Seán.
  • Kyne, Seán.
  • Lawlor, Anthony.
  • Lynch, Ciarán.
  • Lynch, Kathleen.
  • Lyons, John.
  • McFadden, Nicky.
  • McGinley, Dinny.
  • McHugh, Joe.
  • McLoughlin, Tony.
  • McNamara, Michael.
  • Maloney, Eamonn.
  • Mathews, Peter.
  • Mitchell, Olivia.
  • Mitchell O'Connor, Mary.
  • Mulherin, Michelle.
  • Murphy, Dara.
  • Murphy, Eoghan.
  • Neville, Dan.
  • Nolan, Derek.
  • Ó Ríordáin, Aodhán.
  • O'Donnell, Kieran.
  • O'Donovan, Patrick.
  • O'Dowd, Fergus.
  • O'Mahony, John.
  • Phelan, Ann.
  • Phelan, John Paul.
  • Quinn, Ruairí.
  • Rabbitte, Pat.
  • Reilly, James.
  • Ring, Michael.
  • Stagg, Emmet.
  • Stanton, David.
  • Timmins, Billy.
  • Wall, Jack.
  • Walsh, Brian.
  • White, Alex.

Níl

  • Adams, Gerry.
  • Boyd Barrett, Richard.
  • Broughan, Thomas P.
  • Browne, John.
  • Calleary, Dara.
  • Collins, Joan.
  • Collins, Niall.
  • Colreavy, Michael.
  • Cowen, Barry.
  • Crowe, Seán.
  • Ellis, Dessie.
  • Ferris, Martin.
  • Flanagan, Luke 'Ming'.
  • Grealish, Noel.
  • Healy, Seamus.
  • Kelleher, Billy.
  • Kitt, Michael P.
  • Mac Lochlainn, Pádraig.
  • McConalogue, Charlie.
  • McDonald, Mary Lou.
  • McGrath, Finian.
  • McGrath, Mattie.
  • McLellan, Sandra.
  • Martin, Micheál.
  • Moynihan, Michael.
  • Murphy, Catherine.
  • Nulty, Patrick.
  • Ó Caoláin, Caoimhghín.
  • Ó Cuív, Éamon.
  • Ó Fearghaíl, Seán.
  • Ó Snodaigh, Aengus.
  • O'Brien, Jonathan.
  • O'Dea, Willie.
  • O'Sullivan, Maureen.
  • Pringle, Thomas.
  • Ross, Shane.
  • Shortall, Róisín.
  • Smith, Brendan.
  • Tóibín, Peadar.
  • Troy, Robert.
  • Wallace, Mick.
Tellers: Tá, Deputies Emmet Stagg and Paul Kehoe; Níl, Deputies Aengus Ó Snodaigh and Seán Ó Fearghaíl.
Question declared carried.

Is the proposal for dealing with No. 6 agreed to? Agreed.

The time has expired for the Order of Business, therefore, I am obliged to move on.

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