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JOINT COMMITTEE ON ARTS, SPORT, TOURISM, COMMUNITY, RURAL AND GAELTACHT AFFAIRS debate -
Wednesday, 2 Mar 2005

Volunteers and Volunteering: Ministerial Presentation.

I welcome the Minister of State at the Department of Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs, Deputy Noel Ahern, and his officials. We are here today to get a response to our report on volunteers and volunteering. I thank the Minister of State for attending the official launch of the report. It was useful for all involved to realise what a significant interest there is in the sphere of volunteering.

As most people know, among the issues that arose from the report is the need for research to be undertaken and incorporated into the CSO's data collection remit which would appear to be a simple enough issue with which to deal. Another recommendation was that a national campaign would be launched to appeal to young people and to demonstrate the potential benefits to business. Other issues related to academic accreditation and grant applications having a volunteering policy element.

There was a strong emphasis on the need for educational projects in regard to voluntarism to be incorporated during transition year, in secondary schools' senior cycle as part of civic, social and political education, CSPE, or in regard to third level institutions. It was considered that there is potential in the education sector for voluntarism to be addressed.

Volunteer recognition schemes were also suggested, as were volunteer passports. Vetting procedures do not fall directly within the remit of the Minister of State but like many other issues, it crosses departmental boundaries. We cannot talk about volunteering without referring to vetting procedures. When we talk to some Departments they refer us to another Department. We have to try and achieve an interdepartmental approach.

Other issues relate to the development of existing volunteering infrastructure rather than the creation of new structures. It is hoped to have management plans in place to support volunteer managers and business in the community. The issue of funding was examined in regard to dormant accounts, the CAB and the channelling of funding through the Department of Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs. The provision of grants for in-service training was also raised. Those are the types of issues that came out of our report. The Minister of State has had a chance to have a look at the report. I invite him to address the committee.

I thank the Chairman and members of the committee for giving me an opportunity to respond to the report on volunteers and volunteering. As I said in response to questions in the House recently, the committee has produced an important and valuable report. It deserves, and we have given it, considerable consideration in the Department. I have a response to many but not all of the issues to which the Chairman referred.

In recent times we have had the benefit of a number of reports on the appropriate interface by the State with volunteers and volunteer groups. A White Paper on Supporting Voluntary Activity was published in September 2000. The report, Tipping the Balance, was a response by the voluntary sector to the White Paper. My Department benefited from the thinking of the implementation advisory group on the Tipping the Balance report, although its views were not published formally. More recently, we have had the committee's report which, as well as making its own valuable contribution, distilled and prioritised much of the thinking in the earlier reports.

All these documents call for the development of a national policy on volunteering. I accept the need for such a policy. However, the development of an all-embracing policy on volunteering is difficult and complex. Ideally, such a policy should develop naturally between the State and communities. Accordingly, in response to the committee's report, my intention is to set out a number of measures that will be put in place immediately to promote, develop and sustain volunteering while a longer-term policy and strategy are developed in consultation with players across the sector.

A key principle underpinning my proposals recognises that volunteering finds meaning and expression at local level and that supports and funding should, to the greatest extent, seek to reflect and respect this reality. My focus, therefore, tends towards the local and practical rather than towards grand institutional measures. The measures I will initiate in my proposals address many of the key recommendations in the committee's report. They are designed to deepen and strengthen existing volunteering infrastructure, develop and expand volunteering infrastructure at local and community levels, promote volunteering among young people at second and third levels, support the development of an authoritative code of best practice for volunteering, and develop reliable data on volunteering to inform further initiatives, focus strategies and maximise criteria.

On the specifics of the existing volunteering infrastructure, the Department already provides direct annual funding for the Tallaght Volunteer Bureau and Volunteering Ireland. Both are members of Volunteer Centres Ireland, a network established to co-operate on any issues that relate to best practice in the operation of volunteer centres. The other members of the network are the Newbridge Volunteer Bureau, the Bray Volunteer Bureau, Tralee Volunteer Bureau, Cork Volunteer Bureau, Ballyfermot Volunteer Centre and Drogheda Volunteer Centre.

The committee's report recommends in paragraph 2(a) that Volunteering Ireland and existing volunteer centres or bureaus should be supported and granted long-term funding. I accept that the volunteer centres network and the bureaus, including Volunteering Ireland, constitute a valuable infrastructure on which to build for the future. Accordingly, I intend to maintain, on a pilot basis, the funding at current levels in respect of the Tallaght Volunteer Bureau and Volunteering Ireland. The former currently receives €131,000 per year from the Department and the latter receives €147,000 per year.

We want to provide additional funding of up to €300,000 per year to support the other six members of the network in order to develop and strengthen their respective roles in promoting volunteering among the public and providing a placement service for volunteers. Subject to standard conditions attaching to expenditure of public money, this will mean that up to €50,000 per annum will be available to each volunteer bureau. Fingal County Council directly promotes and funds volunteers and volunteering through its community, culture and sports department. In the context of deepening its capability and competence in the community, it is proposed to encourage other local authorities to follow its example and invest resources in volunteering.

In return for the funding proposed we expect the other bureaux, such as the Tallaght Volunteer Bureau, to provide similar services in their local areas. We also expect them to develop general practices and principles as members of Volunteer Centres Ireland. The effectiveness of this measure will be reviewed during the third year of funding.

At present, Volunteer Centres Ireland has no paid staff. To put it in a position to play a proactive, central role in facilitating and supporting the development of the network of local volunteer bureaux, I am making available to Volunteer Centres Ireland annual funding of €50,000, subject to contracts and standard conditions, for the purpose of employing a development officer. Definite tasks for the officer would include development and consultation with various players across the sector, the development of a code of practice for volunteering and volunteers, development of up-to-date statistics on volunteering from existing databases.

Most reports stress the need for new research on the sector. This includes the committee's report. There is another view, which I share, that there is already considerable useful up-to-date information on volunteering at local bureau level. Rather than commiting significant funding to new research programmes at this stage, the development officer whose position we will be funding might seek to develop this information into useful local and national statistics.

I hope the members of the committee agree that these measures will go a considerable way towards developing and strengthening existing volunteering infrastructure with a minimum of bureaucracy. The committee's report also recommends that the existing volunteering infrastructure should be developed. We are taking two other initiatives to address this recommendation. There is already in existence an extensive network of local and community development agencies funded by the State. Some local area partnership companies, community partnerships and community development projects already, through their operations, act as a catalyst for the encouragement and promotion of volunteering. Examples of such work include training of voluntary community activists in management, community development skills, technical assistance to support voluntary groups and technical skills to enable voluntary groups gain access to funds; supporting local voluntary groups' input into and ability to benefit from structures such as the county development boards, the SIM committees and child care committees; supporting volunteer bureaux; and promoting active citizenship and awareness of voting.

My first initiative under this heading is to formalise this role. To this end, €500,000 in local area partnership funding is being ring-fenced for measures that encourage volunteers and volunteering. Each local area partnership company will be asked to develop measures at a local level if it is not already doing so. Measures that involve more than one local or community agency will be particularly welcome. I hope the initiative will achieve this.

In addition, the committee sought the promotion of volunteering generally as an essential part of building up our volunteering infrastructure and recommended that a national awareness campaign be initiated. This can best be achieved at a local level on a cross-agency basis. With that in mind, I am ring-fencing €500,000 of the cohesion fund, which was established on foot of a Government decision arising from the tri-ministerial review of local and community development structures, for measures that will promote volunteers and volunteering locally. These two measures underline our commitment to developing volunteering infrastructure. Under this arrangement, proposals will be co-ordinated by city and county development boards.

The committee's report also recommended a number of actions in the education sector, with the specific aim of increasing volunteering among young people. I accept that it is self-evident that if volunteering is to have a future, steps to foster a culture of support for volunteering in schools and third level institutions need to be taken immediately. Two initiatives are already under way in this regard. The young social innovators initiative involves transition year students at secondary school level from all over Ireland in identifying social needs and developing strategies to address them, requiring their engagement with local community and statutory organisations. The key objective is to develop volunteering among young people and grow a cadre of volunteers for the future.

I believe this initiative, encouraging second level students to take up voluntary activity, addresses an essential element of policy on volunteering into the future.

Accordingly, my Department will take the opportunity provided by the initiative to advance volunteering by supporting the annual showcase awards of the social innovators initiative to the tune of €75,000 per annum and by providing a contribution towards a medium-term core funding of the initiative of €125,000. This funding will be made available on a pilot basis for each of three years. With regard to third level, the DIT community learning programme is an example of a new teaching method called service learning which works by integrating classroom learning in any subject with suitable volunteering activity. The programme has been in development in the DIT since 2001, when 12 students were involved and last year 65 student were involved. Students have carried out a wide variety of volunteering projects and in order to place the community learning programme on a sustainable footing, my Department will support the programme as a pilot project to be assessed as a possible model for Irish third level education. In this regard, €110,000 per annum will be allocated to the programme which will find a development officer and an evaluator for the development of the programme in the DIT. Ultimately, the objective is to encourage the expansion of the programme to a significant number of other third level colleges over a period of years.

The effectiveness of the departmental funding will be assessed within those three years. I hope members will agree that the package of measures, which amount to just under €2 million per annum, is sufficient to develop and strengthen volunteering in Ireland as we develop an all-embracing national policy together.

Our policies on volunteering must go to the very heart of our vision of how Irish society should develop in the coming years. On the one hand, we have communities which need support now in order to get their fair share of our booming economy. In the context of economic growth, there are an increasing number of communities in which few people live during the working day and where people are often too tired in the evenings to come together to take part in any of the voluntary activities which should go to make up a community.

Unless volunteering can be promoted and strengthened we run the risk of seeing an increasing number of communities in which people do not come together as neighbours, parents or fellow citizens to work together to address common problem, play together or sing together as good active communities do. The ultimate outcome of a policy on volunteering is to inspire people to participate in the development of their community and by putting the necessary supports in place to turn that inspiration into action. The experience of all those associated with voluntary activity, both volunteers and beneficiaries, is enriched at a personal, family, community and national level and the development of a comprehensive policy is a vital but complex undertaking which should develop naturally between the State and communities.

The measures I am bringing forward immediately will strengthen and promote volunteering as we develop this comprehensive national policy in consultation with communities and the players involved. I agree with the committee in recognising the valuable work being carried out by organisations such as Philanthropy Ireland and Business in the Community and I accept the need for a functioning volunteering infrastructure to facilitate their philanthropic work. My Department also proposes to engage with these organisations in the coming months to explore ways to maximise the contribution of philanthropy to the common good.

I wish to record my appreciation of the committee for its report and the work members have put into it. I hope members agree that the measures I have outlined constitute a strong favourable initial response to the report. I thank the committee for the work it has put into it. It has pulled together and focused on the previous report in a positive manner. The measures which we are announcing are immediate and practical. Other suggestions which have been made by the committee and other parties are of a more long-term nature.

I thank the Minister of State, particularly given that the announcements of substantial amounts of funding are often made outside the Oireachtas. Although it is not the only group to have examined this issue, the committee appreciates the fact that the Minister of State attended the launch of the report and came back before the committee as promised.

The most important point is that today's announcements constitute a strong initial response and that the Government aims to achieve a longer term policy. I agree that the issues outlined by the Minister of State and the funding which has been announced by him strengthen the existing programmes. This is exactly what the committee has been requesting of the Government as opposed to its reinventing the wheel. On initial reading, it appears to be very important and welcome.

The young social innovators initiative and the showcase awards are very good media for disseminating information because the national media will focus on people wining awards which will have the huge potential trickle-down effect of encouraging people in every county to aspire to the showcase. How will we urge local authorities to encourage others to take the lead? In relative terms, a very small amount of money is provided regularly by the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government to primary schools' waste management projects such as "Make Donegal Glitter — Don't Drop Litter", for example, which won an award. The funding provided was less than €10,000 per local authority but even such small sums had an impact.

Perhaps such schemes present the potential to help local authorities to develop other schemes. For the committee to tell local authorities to deal with the issue of volunteering is similar to our asking teachers to incorporate volunteering in their long days. Nonetheless, even the mechanism which applied to waste management projects could be a cost-effective solution to this.

While encouraging and engendering people into the concept of volunteering, working with the partnership boards which already receive funding, I trust that we will not forget the national organisations which are already involved in volunteering activity, such as those which appeared before the committee. These are national organisations but they are also represented in every region. Therefore, while we develop projects for our volunteers, we might also be in a position to incorporate the national organisation. We would then avoid a situation where we yield to those who shout loudest. Those who specifically work to keep volunteering going can be louder than organisations that hope people gravitate towards them as they quietly go about their work.

I thank the Minister of State and his officials for coming here so soon after the report was launched. As he said, we went over some of this ground during questions in the Dáil last week.

The report stressed that the research available was from the 1990s and that there is a need for more up-to-date information. It recommended that such research be commissioned by the Department and that it could be included within the remit of the CSO. The Minister of State is of the opinion that the information could be gathered and correlated through one of the existing organisations, Volunteer Centres Ireland. That is unsatisfactory because the research should be done by a body outside the sector with objective criteria. The sector might not be the ideal place to generate objective and, if necessary, critical findings.

Issues arise in the report pertaining to Departments other than the Department of Community, Rural and Gaeltacht Affairs. The Department should consider how to interact with those other Departments to make progress with those aspects of volunteering that will benefit society.

I am not sure if it is lawful for a Minister of State or a committee to make recommendations to the President but a presidential honours list could recognise people from the community voluntary sector on the basis of their contributions to society. We have nothing comparable to the honours system in Britain and the idea should be examined. There are role models — many fine people have made a contribution during the years and we should focus on their careers.

As a former teacher, I support initiatives involving the education system. The Minister of State does not have any powers in other Departments so these schemes must developed on a co-operative basis. A structure should be established by which matters could be dealt with in an effective way and progress made.

The Minister of State mentioned the concept of community. Research in recent years on new suburbs, where householders are working from early morning until late at night, shows that the usual connections between people are not being made. It came across that people crave the old meitheal concept, where when someone had a large job to do, everyone joined in and the favour would be returned. Working along those lines can achieve a great deal. We must develop communities and assist, stimulate and guide them to rediscover this concept.

The extra money is welcome. The Minister of State referred to a "passport" where a person's contributions could be recorded and validated to indicate the efforts they have put in during the years. That passport could be related to the honours system, acting as proof of the contributions made.

The committee considers that organisations such as Philanthropy Ireland and Business in the Community have a role to play. Business in the Community made the case that as there can be a difficulty finding a niche for some people in community organisations, assistance is needed. The Minister of State said that his focus is on the local and practical rather than the national. A balance can be struck and there is a need for national structures. Major industries should have a community development structure at national level that can make financial and human resources available to the community.

This is an important area — community development has never been more vital. The Minister of State has outlined to us the steps he is taking and we welcome them. We will continue at committee level and in the Dáil to look at what he is doing and continue to make progress with these issues. Making information available to the public is important, especially to those who want to become involved and make a contribution. An awards system could help to develop voluntarism because people are motivated by the sight of others who excel at what they do.

While I welcome the Minister of State's report, it seems impossible to get money unless one is a member of a network. There are small communities in the west where people have been volunteers all their lives at great personal expense. The youth club in my parish runs an annual international exchange for which we pay out of our own funds, with perhaps a small grant from Clare County Council or Shannon Development. Can we get funding for that type of activity?

Each volunteer must be recognised but I cannot see any of this money filtering into the small towns and villages in the west. Where can they go for funding?

The Chairman spoke about the waste management grants from my Department. There is €500,000 of partnership money and €500,000 from the Cohesion Fund for volunteering. Money can be allocated in two ways: nationally through the Department, on my instructions——

It is not a matter of how but to whom or with what focus money is disbursed. I was not aware of what the Fingal local authority was doing but the Minister of State proposes to encourage other local authorities to do the same.

I accept the Chairman's point, that we do not give money to local authorities for this. We ask them to follow the lead of the Fingal County Council. The money from the partnership fund and the Cohesion Fund for the city and county development boards will be evenly spread around the country.

Volunteering is probably much stronger in rural areas. In urban areas such activities no longer occur naturally. Partnership companies exist throughout the country, as do the city and county development boards, which will have some funding to spend as they see fit on local initiatives. That is better decided at local level than in the Department. Partnerships do some of the work and some are better than others. We hope that the development boards will put forward joint proposals rather than one group at a time. This might encourage several groups to come together with joint proposals to promote volunteering.

The Chairman remarked that it was right to give this money to local groups but that we are ignoring national organisations, for example, St. Vincent de Paul. Our aim is to foster and promote volunteering. We are trying to increase awareness which would ultimately benefit all organisations whether St. Vincent de Paul or local sports clubs.

Deputy O'Shea's point is correct about new communities in which people work long hours. Those canvassing for the by-elections in Kildare or Meath found that people get up early in the morning, travel long distances to work and return late at night. By the time they come home they are not fit to go out and engage in local activities.

Research is always valuable but in this instance we tried to take measures that would have immediate effect and to do that we opted for the local and practical rather than committing to large funding for extensive research programmes. The development officers at the volunteering centres will be able to use the data available there. I accept that an outside agency should undertake proper research.

Some members mentioned an honours system such as presidential awards. There are the Gaisce awards and the Lord Mayor of Dublin honours people in different areas of activity. Deputy O'Shea seeks something similar at a national or regional level. This happens in small ways. There is a national scheme for second level schools and through our involvement we hope to promote and develop that.

As Deputy O'Shea said, much of our work involves other Departments but some issues included in the committee's report could not be achieved in a week or a month. Some Departments, particularly the Department of Education and Science, are considering options but it will be a couple of years before we can make meaningful decisions on these proposals. We favoured an immediate response which is not the definitive answer to every problem.

In response to Deputy Breen, some of this funding will be available through local partnerships and the development boards. It is up to communities to avail of it. The funding is intended to promote volunteering, not necessarily for volunteers who work with people with disabilities, or sports clubs. They already have grant schemes. There is €500,000 available nationally through the development boards over three years. While their projects will not run to many millions of euro sometimes it is possible to get more out of small sums.

Deputy O'Shea referred to a "passport" scheme.

That was in connection with awards, such as the President's Award, where the recipients could build up credits on a passport scheme. In the case of the St. John's Ambulance and similar organisations, if a volunteer was interested in pursuing a professional career in medicine, he or she would then have a portfolio of voluntary service that could be used globally.

It has been discussed that for college entry, points could be awarded for involvement in sport or volunteering. Students could also earn academic credits for passing a subject in volunteering or having been involved in a volunteering project. As a result, it would not be seen simply as an extra curricular activity, dropped in the run-up to the examinations. We should aspire to getting these formalised to ensure real encouragement for people. Working this out is a long-term process. The Department and the Dublin Institute of Technology are examining the idea. However, getting such a process formalised and agreed upon is more difficult than mooting it.

If a young person has a proven track record in volunteering, could he or she be given reductions in insurance quotes, as happens in parts of the United States? In some American states, individuals with good school leaving results also receive reduced insurance quotes.

Some insurance companies give discounts to teetotallers. Following on from the passport suggestion, it would allow individuals involved in voluntary work to prove they are solid citizens and committed to community and citizenship in a wider context. This does not mean one cannot enjoy oneself the odd night. One hopes some companies may recognise this.

The committee compiled five reports last year. Often, reports just sit on shelves gathering dust. However the Minister of State took a good step in giving €2 million to the sector. It is important for the committee to highlight the issue and I trust he sees our comments as constructive. We are looking to the longer term policy for voluntarism and hope to assist the Department in developing it.

I thank the Minister of State and his staff for the presentation today and wish them well in developing the policy. I hope we will meet again without the need for another report on the subject.

I thank the Chairman for her comments. I cannot promise that every time I appear before the committee there will be such a quick and favourable response.

We will be expecting double the money the next time.

The Chairman's timing was right on this issue. I admit that it is time decisions were taken on the previous report. The committee's report was valuable and practical, helping to focus on those items we could deal with in the short term. The programme will soon be formally announced but I thought it was right that we presented it to the committee first.

As we have advertised for submissions on cocaine abuse, I warn the Minister of State another report will be coming down the tracks.

I will be able to inform the committee on pilot projects begun several months ago.

The joint committee adjourned at 5.20 p.m. sine die.

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