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JOINT COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND TRADE debate -
Thursday, 19 Apr 2012

Second Global Irish Economic Forum: Discussion with Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade

Apologies have been received from Deputy Gerald Nash and the Chairman, Deputy Pat Breen. I remind members and those in the public Gallery to ensure their mobile phones are switched off completely for the duration of the meeting as they cause interference with the recording equipment in the committee room, even when on silent mode.

On behalf of the joint committee, I welcome the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Deputy Eamon Gilmore, and his officials to discuss the recently published progress report on the second Global Irish Economic Forum and review the related issue of the annual effort to promote Ireland's interests abroad on St. Patrick's Day. The Tánaiste is accompanied by Mr. Niall Burgess, director general, Anglo-Irish division, Mr. Karl Gardner, deputy director, Irish abroad unit and, from the trade promotion division, Mr. Colm Ó Floinn, director general, Ms Aisling O'Carroll, deputy director, and Ms Louise Kelly, third secretary.

That we are discussing a progress report on the second Global Irish Economic Forum is indicative of the Government's confidence in the forum as an important element of the overall strategy to return Ireland to economic prosperity. Members will be interested to hear the Tánaiste's views on the work of the forum thus far and how initiatives for progress have been selected for priority from among the many ideas explored by the forum. The progress report identifies the need to maximise the potential of St. Patrick's Day abroad as a contribution to re-establishing Ireland's reputation on the international stage. Enhanced planning and harnessing the potential offered by broader participation in ministerial programmes is signalled in the progress report. This broader contribution was reflected this year when the Chairman was invited for the first time to the White House for St. Patrick's Day and undertook an intensive programme of engagement built around the invitation. We will be interested in the Tánaiste's exposition of the key aims and achievements of the overall St. Patrick's Day programme for 2012.

Before we commence, the Tánaiste should note there has not been a coup to remove the Chairman who is otherwise engaged and apologises for his inability to attend. The format will be an opening presentation by the Tánaiste followed by responses from members.

It is a pleasure to appear before the joint committee again. Members will be aware that the absolute priority of the Government is to return Ireland to economic prosperity. Three of the pillars of our recovery are the attraction of foreign direct investment, FDI, support for our exporters and rebuilding our international reputation. Our discussion this afternoon is, therefore, timely as both the Global Irish Economic Forum and the recent St. Patrick's Day period make a significant contribution to the steps we are taking to ensure a stable and prosperous future for our citizens.

Ireland is very fortunate that we can call upon the reservoir of goodwill, expertise and support that exists among our diaspora. That so many of them chose to accept the Government's invitation to travel, at their own expense, to attend the Global Irish Economic Forum is a powerful demonstration of their commitment to Ireland. For two days last October, some 270 members of the global Irish network sat down with members of the Government, senior officials from Departments and State agencies, members of the Opposition and leading members of the Irish business and cultural sectors for a range of discussions on how the diaspora can contribute to Ireland's economic recovery. I am sure those committee members who attended the forum will recall the high level of enthusiasm among the participants and agree that underpinning all discussions that weekend was a deep desire by them to make a substantial contribution to three key Government priorities, namely, economic renewal, job creation and the restoration of Ireland's reputation abroad. In response to the substantive, candid and focused outcomes of the forum, the Taoiseach and I pledged to ensure a robust implementation plan was put in place to deliver progress by March 2012.

Having reviewed the forum report, the Government subsequently endorsed a range of priority initiatives that focus on job creation, inward investment, support for our small and medium enterprise and export sectors and enhancing our international reputationI published a progress report in March which highlighted the current position in respect of the priority initiatives. Among the key developments were: the hosting of the Invest in Ireland round table by President Clinton in New York in February; the appointment of 130 advocates in key regions to work with our missions and State agencies in targeted sectors; the development by Enterprise Ireland of a programme to facilitate mentoring of Irish companies by the diaspora; the establishment of the Global Irish Network advisory group to co-ordinate the overall work programme for the network; the provision of support for indigenous small businesses to access capital, including a private sector scheme, known as Síol, which is being developed; a decision by the export trade council to formalise Global Irish Network involvement in trade missions; and the establishment of a new mechanism to recognise significant contributions to Ireland and Irish communities abroad by members of the diaspora. Significant progress has also been made in respect of a number of initiatives closely aligned with the forum - such as The Gathering and Succeed in Ireland - a programme which provides direct incentives to the diaspora and others across the world to create jobs in Ireland.

Members of the Global Irish Network, which now number over 300, come from a diversity of fields and are based in almost 40 countries. They provide Ireland with an invaluable resource of international expertise from which we can draw as we work towards economic recovery. Since its inception, the network has worked closely with the Government and State agencies in promoting Ireland's economic, cultural and tourism messages in key markets. The work being undertaken by the advocates, the establishment of a private sector SME loan guarantee scheme and the expansion of the Farmleigh fellowship are testament to the drive and creativity of our global community and concrete examples of their facility to contribute to our shared goals. The progress so far is only a first step. To be successful, the forum must be able to demonstrate its contribution towards Ireland's economic regeneration. The Government remains committed to ensuring that the outcomes of the forum evolve and develop and continue to contribute to this goal.

The platform St. Patrick's Day provides for engaging with our international partners and promoting Ireland overseas is unique. Over this period, Ireland enjoys unprecedented international attention. I am committed to ensuring we utilise this attention to our best advantage. In order to maximise this remarkable opportunity, it is necessary to ensure a co-ordinated approach to the programme of visits, an approach which supports the key aims of the Government and generates positive conversations about Ireland. For 2012, we chose "Now is the time to invest in Ireland" as our theme. This message allowed us to promote the steps we have taken to rebuild our economy, to reassure our international partners that we remain committed to the task at hand and to encourage further investment into Ireland.

My Department, in consultation with the State agencies, prepared a set of key messages, many of which were tailored to specific regions and audiences. Ministers used this material to speak with one voice on Ireland's economic recovery, on our strengths in competitiveness and innovation, and on recent investments. We also promoted various initiatives, including The Gathering 2013, Tourism Ireland's Jump into Ireland campaign and the Succeed in Ireland initiative. In co-ordinating the ministerial programmes, my Department works in close co-operation with our embassy network, with State agencies in Ireland and overseas and with relevant Departments. Together, we develop comprehensive, efficient and cost effective programmes that facilitate Ministers enhancing relations with our partners and advancing our national interests in all sectors.

For example, the promotion of Ireland as an attractive location for trade, investment and tourism was the cornerstone of my visit to Canada. In Montreal, I hosted a breakfast with the Montreal board of international trade aimed at encouraging further investment into Ireland. In Toronto, I met members of the Global Irish Network to discuss the role the network can play in promoting Ireland in Canada. Later, I attended a joint Enterprise Ireland - Ireland Canada Chamber of Commerce event in support of our exporters. All these events were well attended and the calibre of the companies doing business bodes well for the future.

My visit to Canada also provided an opportunity to pursue our political objectives and improve our bilateral relations. During my meeting with Premier Jean Charest of Quebec, we discussed strengthening co-operation between Ireland and Quebec – which has a significant Irish history. I also had a very useful meeting with Canada's Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, Jason Kenney, where we discussed new Irish immigrants as well as the steps necessary to progress the EU–Canada trade agreement which is entering its final stages. Studies show that this agreement has the potential to increase trade between Canada and the EU by some €20 billion. Given our open economy, it is in our best interests to facilitate the early completion of this agreement and my visit contributed to that process. In both cities, I also met with a number of our community groups including the St. Patrick's Society and Concordia University's Irish studies faculty in Montreal and the Irish Benevolent Society, the GAA and the Orange Order in Toronto. I am pleased to report that we have a strong and vibrant diaspora in Canada.

The committee will be aware that Canada has become the destination of choice for many of our new emigrants. The Government, through my Department, is committed to supporting those who are leaving. We have in place a twin-track strategy for addressing the challenges presented by the current wave of emigration. First, our economic recovery is based around achieving growth and job creation. I want emigration to become a matter of choice, not necessity. Our key goal is to create the right conditions in Ireland so that our people do not have to emigrate and that those that have done so can return to avail of real and sustainable employment opportunities. Second, I will continue to ensure that those who do emigrate are not forgotten. Specifically, the emigrant support programme administered by my Department will be used to provide support services to recently arrived emigrants in the US, Britain, Australia, Canada and elsewhere. I was pleased to provide a concrete example of that support when I announced an Irish Government grant of €60,000 for the new Irish Canadian Immigration Centre which I opened in Toronto on St. Patrick's Day. Despite the financial challenges we face, I am pleased that the emigrant support programme has been maintained at the significant level of €11.5 million in 2012, bringing total funding for the Irish abroad to some €100 million since 2004.

The Taoiseach and 16 of my ministerial colleagues also travelled abroad over the St. Patrick's Day period. I am not going to cover all the visits, but among the highlights were a number of high level business events in Chicago, Washington, New York, London, Paris and Singapore. On the political side, the Taoiseach's engagements in Washington, including extensive contact with President Obama, was the obvious centrepiece to the programme. Elsewhere, the Minister, Deputy Alan Shatter met the Prime Ministers of both Australia and New Zealand. The Taoiseach and Ministers also attended many community events, both in traditional diaspora locations as well as in cities as diverse as Beijing, Shanghai, Stockholm and Moscow. Ministerial attendance is greatly appreciated at these events, which are organised to a professional level by voluntary groups who give up their time to mark a special day. I am happy to report that, in light of the positive feedback received from all quarters and the positive and widespread global press coverage, our programme of visits was very successful.

We are all aware of the contribution our diaspora has made to Ireland over the years. From our missionaries in Africa and Asia, to the contributions made to the peace process in Northern Ireland, there can be no doubt that in challenging times, we can achieve great things by harnessing the best talents and resources of the Irish at home and abroad. The assistance provided by our friends across the globe has greatly contributed to the Government's work in restoring our international reputation and building our recovery. St. Patrick's Day is now an event which resonates around the world. Our global Irish forum is a model many other countries are looking to replicate. I am committed to ensuring that both continue to make a strong contribution to our economic recovery and I will be happy to answer any questions the committee may have.

I thank the Tánaiste for his interesting address. His two interesting themes are interlinked, the potential to utilise the Irish diaspora in the context of the national economic recovery and the recognition of the reality of our emigrants who have found it necessary to travel overseas. I compliment the Tánaiste particularly for including that group in his address because in the past the feeling among Irish emigrants abroad was that they were forgotten and that they were out of sight and out of mind. It is hugely important that they are recognised in these difficult times and I compliment the Tánaiste on doing that.

I welcome the Tánaiste and his team. As a citizen and not just a parliamentarian, we were fired with enthusiasm and pride by the activities of the Taoiseach, the Tánaiste and the team of Ministers who travelled abroad for St. Patrick's Day with a vision and commitment to restore Ireland's status in the world. As a public representative and citizen, I am reasonably well travelled and I am deeply conscious of the diaspora that exists worldwide and of the esteem in which this country is held. Seeing that esteem damaged over the years has been a saddening experience for Ireland Incorporated. I know it might sound politically biased to praise the current Government, but the energy that has been expended by the Tánaiste, the Taoiseach and the Ministers has been exemplary. It was fantastic to see the hosting of the "Invest in Ireland" round table by President Clinton. He encouraged Americans who have heretofore not invested in this country to invest, notwithstanding the economic difficulties that exist in America itself and the difficulties that exist for a former president to ask American companies before an American audience to choose Ireland as a venue for investment, given the outcry that exists in American politics about the loss of jobs from that country.

I note from the Minister's statement that we will not forget our diaspora. Let us have a closer look at that. I am not satisfied that this country has done anywhere near sufficient work in linking in with our diaspora. I have a personal friend here called Hélène Conway who happens to be French. The French allow her to be elected to the Senate in France to represent the French diaspora. There are models already in existence in other countries which show the benefits of maintaining proper links with their diaspora. The Tánaiste is the chairman of the OSCE and I have some experience of OSCE election monitoring work. It is fascinating to see central European countries and impoverished, emerging democracies allow their diaspora to vote and register their affiliation to their country, which they do by opening their embassies and other venues. I would argue that we are not yet doing enough. Our citizens who are leaving are more educated now than they ever were when they went to Britain building roads, bridges, railway lines and all the rest. Now they are a highly articulate, educated workforce. The least we can do for them is create that linkage with the nation and it would be very important if we could give them a vote.

I note from the briefing documents that we are mimicking the Israeli Koret system. I do not have a clue what that system involves, but if we can build even a fraction of the degree of affiliation to the motherland or the nation state that the Israelis have managed to achieve with their diaspora, then we would be going a long way. I really think that we have to extend the Government's relationship with its diaspora to a greater extent than we are doing at present.

It is fantastic to see the achievements that have been made in the past few years. I know the visa system has been changed and it is facilitating more and more visitors to come here. Those who get visa clearance to travel to England can now travel to Ireland, whereas heretofore, we had students from China studying in colleges here and they were afraid of their lives that their parents could not come and visit them. Some of them were doing what they were not supposed to do, which was to cross the Border illegally from Northern Ireland. That situation has now improved. We need greater access for entrepreneurship and for the intellectual, vibrant young people who are looking to develop businesses here. I was aware that for many PhD students who studying in this country and who might have wished to start their own business and engage here after qualifying, there was a distinct disincentive for them to stay due to the visa system. Perhaps we should look at that.

As this evolutionary process develops, perhaps the Department might consider engaging with the leaders of the third level educational institutions, due to the important link between education provision, inward students and the facilities of universities, in order to work hand in glove with the entrepreneurs we are trying to attract here. I congratulate the Tánaiste on a good day's work. Ireland will see the net result of it in the near future.

I welcome the Tánaiste to the committee. I am glad that when he went to Canada, they did not bring up the fact that some remnants of the Fenians invaded them back in the 1860s. They have left that grudge behind them. Comments were made in the Seanad this year by Members on all sides about media stories on where all the politicians were going and claims that this was a disgrace and a waste of money. Nothing could be further from the truth. Any country would be absolutely delighted to have the opportunity that St. Patrick's Day provides to Ireland. We always say that we punch above our weight, but when we look at it, trying to harness the 70 million strong diaspora around the world is very difficult. They have a bond to us, but it is about trying to mobilise them in a coherent way. The Global Irish Economic Forum is a great step and a positive initiative. It takes many elements from the best examples of what the Indians and the Israelis have done.

A number of people at the forum said that we have to make sure that there are tangible results this time. Many of them were wondering if we have gone anywhere since Farmleigh. There was huge political and economic turmoil in Ireland over those few years, and people were wondering if they would come the next time. That is not to denigrate it, but we have to up our game. In terms of the microfinancing example from the Israelis and so on, I suggest that on the anniversary of the forum, we come back here and find out how many loans were actually given and get feedback from the 130 people we appointed following the forum.

I had a meeting with an ambassador of a First World country this morning. If that country's citizens want to reapply to stay here, we send them back and tell them they can apply next year. They have to stay away for a year and come back. These are not poor people who could be a burden on the State. They could contribute to the country, but our visa system does not work to facilitate some great countries that would be of great benefit to Ireland. We should outline to those people, who used their time and money to come to the forum, how many loans we gave out under our loan guarantee scheme. I am sure the Department will publish a report 12 months after the forum, and I hope it shows that this is what happened. I see that the communications unit issued press releases at Christmas and around the time of the budget and again in February. Do the people who receive those feel that they are effective? We read one in four of our e-mails, so why should they read that particular e-mail? What is in it that will make them open it and read it?

If the Department cannot include everybody in the €1.2 million mentoring scheme, I suggest that committee members and members of the forum come together and explain how it worked. We should be able to do that in 12 months.

The film and television industry was also mentioned in the forum, which is a free advertisement for Ireland. When it is on somebody's television screen, they will see the scenery and come and visit. Is our tax scheme working against that at the moment? Somebody in the Australian tourist board came up with the idea of televising an Oprah Winfrey show next to the Sydney Opera House, and they invited an entire audience to come to Australia and visit everything. They brought Oprah Winfrey and put her next to the Sydney Opera House. They had the backdrop and they had the weather and they invited the entire audience from an Oprah Winfrey show to come to Australia and visit everything. I will not say you could not buy it - obviously one could buy it, because it cost €10 million - but what it was worth in publicity for Australia was enormous. We should be considering initiatives such as that. We need to ensure the Global Irish Economic Forum is a sustainable and ongoing project, and we need to show the people who gave of their time and effort, who would otherwise be charging thousands by the hour, that 12 months from the day they were here last year, this is what we have achieved. We need to give facts and figures. I think it will be a success, but we cannot sit back and expect it to happen by itself. I ask the Minister to address the questions on microfinance and to ensure that all the facts and figures are provided so that not only members of the committee but also those who attended the forum can see there was a visible outcome.

I also attended the forum over the two days and participated in a number of workshops. I agree with the Minister's assessment of the events. It was a positive achievement which demonstrated our capacity to pull together a range of skills and experience from Irish people throughout the world. One could really see their enthusiasm in their contributions, along with their determination that we deliver on our commitments. I welcome the fact that the Minister is here today to report to us on the progress made. I took my own notes of the events and what we committed to, and I am happy to report that all of these issues are included in the report. It is important that those who took the time - they are incredibly busy people - to come here to Ireland and fulfil their patriotic responsibility can see that we are serious about implementing what we agreed to. It might surprise the Minister to hear me praising the Government, as I do not always do so, but this report is worthy of praise as it seriously addresses what we said we would do.

It is critical, in view of that event and the capacity and scale of the Irish diaspora, that we give them a vote in the next presidential election. That would electrify the diaspora and indeed those on this island. It would give them the potential to participate in the election of an office that does not have an awful lot of executive functions but has the capacity to be a bridge to them. I know the Minister is considering a range of things in this regard. The next presidential election is almost seven years away which is quite a long time, but that is an important consideration in the context of this initiative.

In my home county of Donegal there has been a diaspora strategy which involves linking in with first, second and third-generation Donegal people, particularly in Britain and America, in an attempt to interest them in engaging in investment and partnership back home. Is there a role for the Department in co-ordinating the work of all the local authorities? Such an initiative is not unique to Donegal, I am sure. I always refer to an effort by the people of Claremorris a number of years ago. By examining the parish register of births, they discovered the extent of the diaspora and used this information to bring investment back to their community. That is just one of many examples.

I read a report in The Irish Times last week which quoted John Hartnett, the founder of the Irish Technology Leadership Group, a very impressive man who is based in Silicon Valley. He is one of the people appointed to the Minister’s advisory board, which I also welcome. He said he was delighted to participate in the Global Irish Economic Forum but he wants to see the implementation of these ideas. That takes me to the idea of Síol, which means seed in Irish. This refers to the potential for creating, in a practical way, a seed fund from Irish investors around the world and bringing it back home. That is very important.

As the Minister reports to us periodically on these commitments, we should start to see tangible results in terms of how much money we have gathered, how much we have invested and how many jobs have been created from these initiatives. Overall, I am positive about the Minister's presentation, which reflects my recollection of what was agreed at the forum. It is a good start, and now we need to move into the implementation phase. If we do that, we will persuade these people to come back and we can take it from there.

Cuirim fáilte roimh an Tánaiste go dtí an cruinniú. I also welcome his high-powered assistants.

My colleague, Deputy Eric Byrne, was very complimentary of the report and of what is happening. I have noticed this from many Government spokespersons. There is a real danger that this self-congratulatory mood might result in their starting to believe their own propaganda, which is something I am concerned about.

The Minister would never do that.

We need to be results-focused. There is a disconnect with reality. My experience on the ground - it must also be that of other politicians - is of dealing with people who are being made redundant and small businesses that cannot get funding. I am being told by business people that they are finding commercial conditions worse this year than last year. Unless we test that and face that reality, we will not get ourselves out of the severe difficulties and economic challenges that we face.

Deputy Mac Lochlainn and Senator Daly, who attended the forum, were impressed with the Minister's report. That was the second meeting of the forum, which was established as members know, by the previous Government. They were positive about the outcome. I am not as impressed for a number of reasons. Much of what is in the report is aspirational, perhaps out of necessity. It appears from some of the report that a pedantic approach is being taken within the Department. Given that we have had two meetings of the forum, the last of which was last October, and given the seriousness of our economic difficulties, I would not have expected the report to contain only suggestions - we are going to do this, we are going to do that, and certain things are in the pipeline. I would have thought action would be taken and decisions made before now. I am also a little concerned about some of the suggestions from the forum, such as the temporary partial credit guarantee scheme, which I think is a good idea. We are almost four years into the economic crisis, which is the worst any of us has seen in our lifetimes and the effect of which is felt not only in Ireland but globally. Why are these innovative ideas not coming from highly qualified, well paid people within all sectors of the public service? The challenge that is facing us all means we must be more innovative and work harder. That may be the case, but I am not detecting it.

I fully agree with the second point made by my colleague with regard to the diaspora. For many years, there have been successful efforts to harness the good will among our diaspora to contribute towards Ireland. I was always one who applauded the fact that Irish politicians went abroad in the weeks around St. Patrick's Day, and I always defended this practice when the media and the parties that were in opposition at the time took a more superficial approach. They went abroad and were quite successful in maintaining a network that allowed us to identify and harness support. I congratulate the Tánaiste and the Government on their efforts this year to continue it. Long may it continue. It is of benefit to Ireland and we should ensure it continues. However, one thing has annoyed me. I read some months ago that given our difficult situation there are two main areas on which we should concentrate to try to build our way out of it. One such area is domestic consumption. Apparently, this area can subscribe to economic growth. The last Government was criticised - rightly so and it acknowledged as much - for making mistakes by being pro-cyclical. This Government is repeating the mantra. Everything coming from Government is pro-cyclical in respect of the downward trend in the economy. Someone should have the courage to target the resources and try to stimulate consumption. I could list a plethora of decisions made in the past 12 months which are contributing to the downward spiral. In 2008 I predicted this would last a long time. I stated at the time that the IMF would have to be brought in. I hate to say as much and I hope to be proved wrong but I do not believe we will see the end of the recession in Ireland before the end of this decade. I am concerned about the people.

I have seen some self-congratulatory comments made by various people, including economic commentators, with regard to our export growth. This is the second pillar for economic growth. I am open to correction but from memory I understand the figures suggest our exports grew by approximately 3% or 4%, which appears to be quite good. However, I understand that last year exports in Germany grew by 14% and that average EU growth in the past year in this area has been 15%. If this is the case we must ask why and we should take the necessary steps to try to remedy it. We should face up to these issues together in a totally non-partisan political way. We cannot rewrite the past but we can try to shape the future. This means realistically facing up to where we are to ensure those who are paid to deliver do so with energy and enthusiasm. We all have a role to play to ensure we correct the fundamental underlying issues that are keeping down and dragging down our economy. I am becoming somewhat annoyed and impatient with the length of time it is taking for us to be proactive in this regard.

I am also concerned because I believe our public service has not responded with the necessary urgency to the changing scenario of the past four years. Any leadership, encouragement and incentives to bring about the necessary changes is vital. The Minister will be aware of the many people who have committed suicide because of the downturn. They simply could not cope with the stress. People are struggling. At the last meeting my colleague referred to the number of children going to bed hungry. We must face up to these issues. I call on the committee to do so together in a way that does not simply seek political partisanship. Ultimately, I hope the people will bring about a situation where politicians and politics will be based on a meritocracy and where one is judged on one's results not on what one says. I applaud the Minister. There is a need for public relations in politics and this Government is far better at it than the last Government. However, I fear there is an element creeping in that could lead to complacency and I caution against that.

I thank the Tánaiste for his contribution. I have always supported trips abroad on St. Patrick's Day. They are important from a networking point of view and they create a great impact whatever the country, whether Canada, the United States, China or wherever.

The Tánaiste stated in his contribution that foreign direct investment was one of three important pillars. We heard a thought-provoking contribution this morning at the Joint Committee on Jobs, Social Protection and Education from Seán O'Driscoll of Glen Dimplex. He made the point that there is a shortage of jobs not only in Ireland but worldwide. China and Germany are probably the two exceptions. He referred to the difficulties in Spain and the United States in particular. There is a good deal of pressure on American companies to bring jobs back home from abroad. There has been a call to this effect from President Obama. He has an election campaign this year. Has the Tánaiste come across this? Has this appeared on the radar? We may become complacent about the level of foreign direct investment and we should look after this very important area. The focus of the jobs plan of the Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation, Deputy Richard Bruton, is on small and medium-sized enterprises. This area is also an important plank and there is much to be brought to the table. However, foreign direct investment has been an important plank for us. It is something we should nurture and we should not take for granted the links we have made.

I compliment the Tánaiste on the report and I commend him and the Government on the work they carried out over St. Patrick's weekend. That work is vital. I stated previously in the House that the less we see of the Tánaiste around here, the better because it means he is doing a good job for us out on the road as Minister with responsibility for trade.

I cannot win on that score.

Perhaps not. As politicians we must grow up as well. Reference has been made to media criticism of ministerial trips abroad on St. Patrick's Day. While elements of the media will always be willing to take advantage of these opportunities, there are many opportunistic politicians in the House who have derided the Tánaiste and previous Ministers for undertaking this valuable endeavour on our behalf. As other members have noted we have an opportunity on an annual basis around St. Patrick's Day which is shared by no other country and we would be failing in our responsibilities to the people if we did not enthusiastically and responsibly take that opportunity and go out and work at it on behalf of the people, as the Tánaiste has done on this occasion. I commend the Tánaiste in this regard.

The global forum was an exciting initiative when it was established in 2009 and I commend the Tánaiste on continuing the associated work. However, as Senator Walsh has suggested, the public is getting to the point at which almost four years since its establishment they want to see the beef and the outcomes. I appreciate the medium and long-term nature of much of what is envisaged. However, such initiatives as the Gathering, the world actors forum and Succeed in Ireland should be at the stage where we can indicate a quantitative degree of success. Are we seeing bookings for the Gathering? Where are they coming from? More particularly, where are they coming from in substantial numbers? What are the other areas that we should be focusing on? If there is to be a Davos-style event for actors, it will be interesting but who is signing up for it? Who is leading it? Where will they come from? Are they coming from India? Will it involve Bollywood as well as Hollywood? We need to get to the hard facts and figures soon. The sooner the Tánaiste can signal that objectives are being achieved on this front, the greater the political confidence and, more important, the greater the public confidence.

Deputy Eric Byrne raised the issue of students in third and fourth level education. I spoke recently to a Middle Eastern ambassador who informed me that 60% of those wishing to undertake PhD studies is in his country were unable to do so. There is a golden opportunity for Ireland to provide opportunities in this area which will ultimately have benefits for Ireland.

The work of the Tánaiste in supporting emigrants in Canada is important. This relates to the remarks made by Deputy Byrne about third level education. Many of the cohort of young people who have left the country were from the building trade and some of them have full qualifications. Many other young people left without having completed their apprenticeships. We need bilateral arrangements between this country and places like Australia and New Zealand to enable those young people to complete their qualifications in order that they can remain where they are for a period of time with security. There seems to be nothing as of yet in train on that front. It would be enormously helpful if FÁS, on behalf of the Department of Education and Skills, could be encouraged to examine how somebody who had done two years of a four-year apprenticeship in this country could complete it in Canada or Australia. I apologise for having to leave for another appointment before I can hear the response.

I welcome the Tánaiste and his team. This is a significant report and its contents are to be welcomed. We were all proud of the effort made by the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and all Ministers throughout the world during week around St. Patrick's Day. If ever we needed a team out on the field batting for Ireland to repair the international reputation of the country it was this year. I agree with Deputy Ó Fearghaíl who said the more often the Tánaiste is abroad promoting Ireland, the better it is for the country. The work initiated by the global economic forum is significant. I agree with previous speakers that we need to see that work built upon and a dividend returned on the efforts being made by the Government and all the people who have given so generously of their time and expertise.

I have some questions. The Tánaiste referred to the fact we have 130 advocates in key regions working with missions and State agencies. From what areas are the advocates drawn? Are they business people?

I read in another document that Enterprise Ireland has appointed a number of high-profile Irish entrepreneurs to act as international start-up ambassadors. Dylan Collins and Paul Kenny have been appointed. I understand it is intended to appoint more people this year. Has any progress being made on that? Can the Tánaiste give the committee an indication of who is likely to be appointed?

I wish the Tánaiste continued success and hope he builds on the progress made to date. I disagree with Senator Walsh. We need to be upbeat about things. There was some good news this week in my county where 220 or 230 new jobs were announced in Connemara. Hundreds of jobs were also announced for Dublin. Some projects are small in the overall scale of the unemployment levels we have but are still significant. It is to be hoped the visits we have made to China, the United States and other parts of the world will deliver much needed new opportunities.

At a meeting of the Joint Committee on Jobs, Social Protection and Education yesterday I said we need to concentrate on manufacturing. We need to encourage entrepreneurs to reconsider manufacturing and return to some of the things we did well in the past when large numbers of jobs were created in many small towns. My town, as the Tánaiste knows, is a case in point. We lost a lot of manufacturing jobs over the past decade.

It is to be hoped some entrepreneurs with whom we are linking up will look at the opportunities to invest in Ireland. The decision we will make in the next six weeks on the fiscal compact treaty will be significant if we are to encourage additional investment in Ireland. We have made a good start over the past six months but we have a long way to go before we address the serious economic problems facing the country, particularly unemployment and immigration.

The Tánaiste has time constraints. I thank members for their contributions. Recognition has to be given to all the efforts of a positive nature. We should not exaggerate what has been done; we should recognise that people did a job. I do not accept the notion that the Tánaiste is better at PR than his predecessors. He can aspire to that but he is not nearly as good.

Running an economy is like flying an aircraft. One can trim, frustrate and level flight and have no turbulence for a long time, but one can then incur turbulence. When one does the tendency is to rise above it. If one rises too high, one stalls because the incline is too steep. If one powers on before one comes out of a downward spiral one goes down into the depths and may never recover, do irreparable damage and crash. The technique employed by the Government is correct. One stabilises things first and powers on when one has control of the economy. It is something I learned many years ago when I had fewer things to do.

Those who suggest an immediate overnight recovery from the kind of situation in which the country has found itself, regardless of who caused it, are crying after the moon. Things do not happen and have not happened that way. If things do happen that way, it is a false recovery. I compliment all those involved in going to great lengths to be positive, draw the positive themes on board and apply theory and practice in common union.

As I said at the beginning of the meeting, it is of major importance to include our immigrants abroad. If they stay abroad for any period, they become part of our diaspora. We need to bring together with the diaspora those who are abroad and may return at some time in the future. They have huge international influence, as do our immigrants. Each and every household in the country has been affected by immigration in the past. At some stage or another, all of our parents had to go abroad out of necessity. We should recognise their plight and the plight of those who now have to go abroad out of necessity, as well as the great contribution they made, continue to make when working abroad and will continue to make here.

I thank the Chairman and members for their contributions. We have covered a lot of ground. Some very interesting and thought-provoking themes have been raised.

I refer to the point made by Senator Clune on jobs, which is the major issue. We find ourselves in an economic crisis. No matter how one looks at it, the route out of it is job creation. There is a shortage of jobs globally. The population of the world is approximately 7 billion and about 3 billion are available for work, when one excludes children, people who are retired and those not available for work. There are about 1.2 billion jobs from which one can earn a living and work for 30 hours or more a week. There are different kinds of jobs, such as cutting somebody's grass. There is a global shortage of good jobs and competition for where they will be developed and located. That is the competitive environment in which we are operating, particularly to attract inward investment. We have to look to our strengths and to consider what we have available. We are a small island with a population of 4.5 million in this State and a little over 6 million in the entire island. However, one of the factors available to us is a world-wide extensive diaspora, a total of 70 million people who have an attachment to Ireland and an affection for this country. It is a question of how to harness this goodwill. The events held to celebrate St. Patrick's Day is one way. There are very few countries whose national day commands the kind of attention which Ireland's national day commands around the world. I can think of a few such as the Fourth of July, Canada Day, the French national holiday on 14 July. Apart from those days there are very few countries whose national day has that kind of a global reach and global attention. We would be mad not to harness that. To be fair, it was certainly my impression this year that, by and large, media and public comment on the St. Patrick's Day events was, in the main, positive. Where people are critical is when they perceive waste of money and when celebrations are overdone. That is understandable. We can do the St. Patrick's Day events modestly and without overdoing expenditure on the bells and whistles, so to speak. However, I remind the members that we get a bang for the buck for these events in terms of widespread attention, the people we can talk to and how it assists in the promotion of tourism and trade and in the purchase of Irish goods. No advertising campaign could replicate all this promotion because the cost would be quite significant. Senator Daly referred to the Australians arranging for Oprah Winfrey to visit the Sydney Opera House. To some extent, we did the same last year with the visits of Queen Elizabeth II and of President Obama and the visit of the Vice President of China. These visits all shone a light on this country in those areas.

I refer to the second factor in our favour which is the 70 million people with Irish connections. So many of them are people who are very well placed. This was the idea behind the global Irish economic forum and the establishment of the global Irish network, which was to assemble those people who are chief executives and chairpersons of big multinational companies, people with a significant presence in the corporate world. These are the kind of people, for example, who will open a door for this country, who will perhaps influence an investment decision. Very often the decision on where to make an investment comes down to impressions which board members may have of a country and it would be useful if Ireland were to have a friend to tilt that investment in our favour. There is considerable evidence that many of the investment decisions as regards locating here come down to those issues.

Conscious of the fact that there is a significant Irish diaspora, we are systematically working with that diaspora. It is interesting to note that we are not alone in this policy; other countries are also beginning to use their own diasporas and are replicating what we are doing although we are probably ahead of the curve in this regard and we have benefited from it. I am aware that people question how many jobs have been created but sometimes it is not possible to quote tangible results because some of the benefits of having the diaspora working for us are long term. The decision may have been made but one cannot always make the direct connection.

I acknowledge that the first economic forum was convened by the previous Government and I complimented my predecessor as Minister, Deputy Micheál Martin, who convened the first forum. We are now building on this beginning. The network has been expanded and it now accounts for over 300 contacts. We have also organised it on a country-by-country and a regional basis so that we can use it more effectively. We are also developing the notion of such people being advocates for the country. We want people who will actively act as advocates for Ireland, who will not just be attendees at an event. We have put in place a regular communications system with the people who are part of the network. The Taoiseach and I communicate with the members of the network about once every six weeks or thereabouts. We bring them up to date on what is happening in Ireland and on the progress on our objectives. We have also developed a number of other ideas to keep the network active and which are listed in the report.

I will comment on some of the issues raised by members. On Deputy Eric Byrne's point regarding the universities and third level, my Department has ongoing contact with the Department of Education and Skills, Enterprise Ireland and the universities in promoting the education sector abroad. As part of the St. Patrick's Day events, the Minister of State, Deputy Cannon, visited China and he was accompanied by representatives of six third-level institutions in the delegation.

The question of members of the diaspora voting in presidential elections was raised by Deputy Byrne and Deputy Mac Lochlainn. This is a matter which is probably best progressed through the constitutional convention when it is established and one of its first objectives is to examine the presidential election. The Síol idea is an original idea from Israel which we are replicating. The Israeli equivalent is not a government body but rather a private voluntary body which facilitates members of the Israeli diaspora to contribute to a fund which is used to provide a guarantee for financial institutions when lending to start-up businesses. This is the idea behind the Síol proposal which we are developing. For example, a business project would be run through Síol and if Síol decides it is a good idea then Síol would provide a guarantee which in the Israeli equivalent is up to about 50% of the initial loan. We are looking at developing that initiative in which the fund is subscribed to by members of the diaspora. In response to Senator Daly, we plan to have a progress report on the forum and the network later this year, hopefully by October.

Deputy Mac Lochlainn asked about the Irish technology leadership group. I agree that John Hartnett and that group are doing very good work. My Department is very supportive of this group's work. A total of $772,000 has been provided by my Department to assist the work of that group which has been doing very good work since 2009. As regards the idea of a county-based diaspora, such as the Donegal diaspora, the Department is already working with a project called Ireland Reaching Out, which is based in south-east Galway and this is aimed at working with those overseas who have links with that region. The project has developed a framework that could easily be replicated in other counties. I suggest if the Deputy wishes to make direct contact with the Irish abroad unit, they would be happy to give him further information.

Senator Walsh raised matters which are part of a much wider debate. In response to some of his comments, I do not agree that the Government is being self-congratulatory. The Taoiseach and I at our respective party conferences made it very clear that this is not a time for self-congratulation. We would like people to acknowledge the progress we have made, but we are not going to exaggerate that progress. There is a great deal of work still to do. I agree that we will not get out of our economic difficulty without re-stimulating the domestic economy. There is much more we need to do in that area.

The temporary partial credit guarantee scheme aims to facilitate additional lending to small and medium-sized enterprises which are on the margins of commercial lending decisions. I expect the legislation giving effect to that to be enacted in the very near future. I have already spoken about the microfinance fund under which the Government has approved €10 million for start-ups.

Several members referred to the Gathering. It is important to note that tourist bookings for 2012 are up. We must get the sequence right by focusing for now on this year. The Gathering is an idea for 2013 but it was launched in the period around St. Patrick's Day. We are working toward that and making the necessary preparations. However, we must be careful not to put it into competition with our objectives for 2012, in respect of which Tourism Ireland is managing the situation very well. The focus must be on achieving a good tourist season this year and building from there towards the Gathering. The register of advocates will include five categories of advocates, namely, those who advocate for us in respect of foreign direct investment, export, tourism and culture, banking and financial services, and reputation.

Concerns have been expressed about what is happening in the United States and whether there will be a pull-back there on jobs leaving the country. It is often forgotten that there are almost as many United States citizens employed in Irish companies which have invested in that country as there are Irish citizens working in American companies based in this State. Some 90,000 people are in the latter category, while approximately 80,000 United States citizens are employed in Irish companies located there. It is a two-way process. To be fair, the United States Administration understands that reality and it is an issue the Taoiseach and I have discussed with the President, Mr. Obama, and others. Ireland does not feature very much in the concerns that have been expressed about jobs leaving the United States and going elsewhere. The Government in that country is conscious that the trade and investment between our two nations is a two-way street.

Thank you, Tánaiste.

I have one final question. I accept it is difficult but what efforts can be made to increase our exports to a level closer to those of Germany and to the EU average?

As I understand it, our exports increased by 4.1% last year, which amounted to some €3.7 billion. This was the largest increase in our export performance in more than a decade.

I am concerned that we reach the EU average.

I do not have the figures readily to hand, but I can get back to the Senator.

I understand the figure for Germany is 14% and the average for the European Union is 15%. Will the Vice Chairman allow me to make a final comment?

I am afraid not. The Senator had a very good innings.

Every policy should be job-centred-----

Senator Walsh had ample opportunity to contribute and the Tánaiste is under pressure for time, as I pointed out at the beginning of the meeting. I thank the Tánaiste and members for their contributions.

The joint committee adjourned at 3.45 p.m. until 2.45 p.m. on Wednesday, 9 May 2012.
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