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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 2 Jun 1983

Vol. 100 No. 14

Adjournment Matter. - Prisoner's Hunger Strike.

I should like, with the permission of the Chair, to give some of my time to Senators Michael D. Higgins and Lanigan on this issue. I have no desire to exacerbate a serious situation but it would be a failure in the responsibilities of this House, as a House of the Oireachtas, if we did not attempt to discuss a serious issue. I should like, therefore, to put some of the salient points of Nicky Kelly's case on the record. I am sure the Minister will adequately and ably put the contrary case.

Among the agencies that are concerned about Nicky Kelly's case are Amnesty International. They say they do not sit in judgment. They are not interested in a verdict of guilty or not guilty but concerned with the standards of a fair trial. They ask if it is in line with international standards of fair trial to accept certain standards of evidence; is it in line with the standards of a fair trial to hold someone in communicado for days after his arrest without a medical examination or without access to the solicitor of his choice? It was, after all, after prolonged questioning, almost three days questioning, that Nicky Kelly signed a confession.

The situation is that on Monday morning, 6 April 1976, at 9.55 Nicky Kelly was arrested under the Offences Against the State Act and brought to Arklow Garda Station. He was then brought to Fitzgibbon Street Garda Station in Dublin. From 12 noon to midnight he was interrogated by gardaí. He was then transferred to the Bridewell where he spent the night. Questioning resumed in the morning and continued until 1 p.m. He was interrogated again from 3 p.m. to 6.30 p.m. and from 11.30 p.m. throughout the night. It was in the early hours of Wednesday morning that he made verbal admissions of guilt. He signed a written confession at 5.15 a.m. That was the only evidence that existed against him: the written confession signed after about 60 hours in Garda custody. He was convicted and sentenced to 12 years along with two co-defendants. He was not in court; he had absconded while on bail. He subsequently withdrew the confession, or tried to withdraw it, and alleged that he had been ill-treated in Garda custody.

The situation is that the three defendants were admitted to Mountjoy Prison and were examined by the prison doctor. He found on Kelly extensive bruising on the arms, shoulders and buttocks. During cross-examination that doctor admitted that it was, of necessity, a cursory examination and that he might have missed other marks. Later that evening two doctors were brought in by Kelly's solicitors to examine him. Their examination was more thorough and they found more bruising, some around and in the ears. The following day another doctor examined him and found the left shoulder and scapula area had extensive bruising going from the top of the acromion towards the scapula. There was linear bruising measuring five inches by two inches and three inches by one inch. Suffice to say that there was ample evidence that somebody had inflicted some physical damage on Nicky Kelly. This was obviously argued in the courts. The prosecution argued that since (a) the gardaí denied assaulting him and (b) since Kelly had spent some time alone in his cell and some time in company with another prisoner he had the opportunity either to inflict the injuries on himself or to have somebody else inflict them on him.

The Special Criminal Court accepted the prosecution case that the confession was entirely voluntary and had not been extracted under duress. In the case of his co-defendants, when the case was appealed the courts found that, in fact, there had been breaches of the rules under which evidence was taken. They did not accept that they had been beaten but they did accept that there were breaches of normal practice which would constitute oppressive questioning and the other two defendants were discharged and are now free.

It was at this stage that Nicky Kelly returned from the United States where he had been in receipt of psychiatric treatment. That is where the present saga began. He attempted to appeal his case. May I say that in the factual account the Minister has presented on this case there is nothing I would dispute. The factual account is quite correct. I am not alleging or suggesting that there was anything which was factually incorrect. Both the Court of Criminal Appeal and, ultimately, the Supreme Court did not concede his appeal. That is the source of our present dilemma. The Minister has said that he cannot do anything about this case unless fresh evidence is presented.

There is, of course, evidence which is acceptable to the courts, a particular form of evidence governed by a lot of principles of which I would not claim to be an expert. There is the other kind of evidence that public opinion takes note of. In particular, there is the climate that prevailed here in those years of 1976 and 1977 of which I can give personal testimoney. I, as a totally innocent citizen, was followed home by the security section of the Garda. My flat was observed by the security section of the Garda. They changed shifts at midnight and continued the observation of my flat into the early hours of the morning. A friend of mine, again totally innocent, was confronted one night, asked where he was going and asked would he not be better off at home in bed at that hour of the night. We were totally innocent. Fortunately we were reasonably articulate and, therefore, not particularly oppressed by this. But that was the atmosphere that prevailed. There was international concern about allegations of ill-treatment of prisoners in custody. Amnesty International were concerned. A major Irish newspaper published, and never found any reason to withdraw, a series of articles about ill-treatment of prisoners. We eventually set up a committee of inquiry to look into the question of how we could best look after both the interests of prisoners and the interests of the Garda so that unfounded allegations could not be made against them. It is regrettable that a number of the major recommendations of that commission were never implemented. I, for one, very much doubt if there would be any problem about the Nicky Kelly case if those proposals had been implemented, because either there would have been no doubt that his confession was voluntary or there would have been no confession, and that would be a far more acceptable situation.

The major consideration is that the Minister has some obligation to face up to the fact that there was at that time widespread public concern about certain activities of certain members of the Garda and that there were in addition expressions of concern from various eminent and independently-minded agencies and individuals. A major aspect of this case is that it happened at a time when there were serious public reservations. That is one of the reasons I am convinced there is so much public concern about this case, because of how it happened, and because of the climate of attitudes to security that prevailed in the country at the time. That is not evidence that can be presented to a court but it is evidence that can be adjudicated upon by a politician. That is the reason I feel the Minister ought to look at this question again. That is the reason why I think there is great need for consideration of it.

The Minister is mistaken in thinking that to make a concession under these circumstances would be interpreted as weakness. I do not believe that to be flexible and humane is anything other than to be strong and courageous. I do not believe there would be a succession of other hunger strikes if Nicky Kelly were to be released, or if some progress were to be made towards achieving that goal. I do not believe there is a conspiracy behind Nicky Kelly in the way that has been alleged to me on occasions in recent times. Therefore, I appeal again to the Minister, as I have done indirectly before — and I regret that, because I would have preferred to have raised this matter first in the House before it was raised anywhere else, as that is the way I think we should do out business — to reconsider his position.

I am grateful to Senator Ryan for sharing a couple of minutes of the time allocated for this discussion of this sad topic.

I am very mindful of what has been said in the other House, both in stating the case and in the Minister's reply, that it is important that any statements made by public figures have not the wrong effect of endangering even further Mr. Kelly's life. For example, to be fair, the Minister has replied completely and at length giving the basis of his decisions to date, and I am very anxious to be responsible in what I say this evening. In the history of this case I found the article by Barry McAuley in The Irish Times of 2 June 1983, page 12, very instructive and helpful. It ends with the principle that is the nub of what I have to say this evening: “Running through the Minister's statements to date has been the suggestion that if he was to review the circumstances of the case he would be setting himself up as a further court of appeal on top of the judicial system”. Mr. McAuley, a lecturer in criminology in University College Dublin, ends his point by saying that in a democracy no one branch of government enjoys absolute power and the right of the executive to pardon those who have been wrongly convicted has long since been regarded as a fundamental constitutional principle.

Apart from Mr. McAuley's opinion, it would be highly inconsistent for somebody like myself, who has gone abroad appealing to executives to exercise compassion, clemency and to issue a comment on what were often judicial proceedings, not to make it in the case of somebody who has, unfortunatley — and I am not condoning it — gone on hunger strike to assert the principle that he has been wrongly deprived of his liberty.

Mr. Kelly has been asked by different people to come off his hunger strike, but it would help if the Minister at this stage was willing to suggest that he was reconsidering the circumstances which led to Mr. Kelly's present position. I must confess that I was a Member of the Seanad from 1973-77 when some of the legislation was going through, and I was worried about its application and the history of legislation like it in this country. I have had letters from people who were arrested by some of the people who figured in the case. Some of these people had their views sustained in one court to be reversed in another. There is more than a reasonable doubt about the procedures and circumstances in which statements were obtained in this case. I know many will say that the obvious suggestion — and perhaps it is an avenue that should be explored — is that Mr. Kelly has not exhausted all his options in terms of appeals to courts in other places, but what would be useful and valuable at this stage would be if people urged Mr. Kelly to think of his position, and if the Minister was willing to say that, as an executive act, and reflecting back on all the information available to him as of tonight, and in view of the suggestions that have been made about the executive's comment on the whole history of this period and these procedures, he was thinking again and would be willing to respond to a review of the case. That might be helpful to many people who may be seeking a resolution to this difficulty.

My prime concern is the saving of a life. I am not commenting on the detail of the case, I do not have the time and it would be wrong for me to do so in a debate of this length. In my view everything possible should be done to save Mr. Kelly's life. It is important not to impose too rigid a model of rationality on Mr. Kelly's position. He was ill before he took this decision. He has claimed that he is asserting his innocence. These human circumstances call for compassion and make a case for an indication that at least clemency might be considered in the event of Mr. Kelly coming off his hunger strike, or more than that, that the whole case might be looked at again. It is in that sense that I support Senator Ryan's appeal to the Minister.

I am joining with other Senators to ask the Minister to review this case as a matter of urgency because this person, rightly or wrongly, asserts he is innocent. He has stated that time and time again. I am not too sure whether he is or not. The evidence in court would suggest that he is not. If the Minister looked again at the case he would not be considered a weak Minister. Perhaps the Minister could promise to review Mr. Kelly's case if he comes off his hunger strike. There is enough violence in this country at present, and violence can be aggravated by judicial decisions. I am not suggesting there was a wrong decision made in sentencing Mr. Kelly, but I do not think the judicial system, this House, or this Government, would be in any way weakened by the Minister reviewing this case immediately as a matter of urgency.

Limerick East): I appreciate the compassion and concern which have caused Senators to raise this subject here tonight, and I certainly appreciate the right of the Seanad to debate such a matter which concerns us all. I do not agree that it is wise to debate it, however. There has been public concern, and we are told that there has been public concern tonight. One problem here is that it is fair to say that, for the most part, the public have heard one side and one version.

Senator Brendan Ryan began by saying he wanted to deal with the salient points of the case. He said the Minister would be putting the contrary case, probably. I have not put the contrary case on any occasion. I have said it is not the function of the Minister to adjudicate on guilt or innocence. I have not conducted the debate in the other House, and will not do so here, on the basis of adjudicating on guilt or innocence. That is a function of the courts. It is not a function of a Minister. The difficulty is that, because I am not in a position to debate one side rather than the other, the public have not got at all a full version of what happened.

On Wednesday of last week I issued a fairly detailed statement about the case. I sent a copy to every Member of the Oireachtas, but the general public have not had access to it. No daily newspaper published the statement in full, and only one published a substantial part of it. I am not complaining about that and, in particular, I could not expect that much space would be given to my statement by any newspaper that had not been giving much attention to the case being made by supporters of the prisoner. All I am saying is that there is a problem of communication. We have had radio programmes with commentaries on my statement, but the great majority of the listeners would not have been in a position to know what was in my statement because the radio programmes did not carry my statement.

On Tuesday of this week I made a statement in the Dáil supplementing what I had said in the earlier public statement, and I spoke again on the Adjournment debate. Generally there was more publicity for that, but it was of its nature only supplementary material. In my Dáil statement I made a special appeal to people in all walks of life, supporters of Mr. Kelly, people in public life, people in the media, and so on, to take account of the grave risk that continued agitation would be a factor in encouraging Mr. Kelly to continue on his hunger strike. Senator Ryan has chosen to ignore that tonight. I need hardly say I could not and would not wish to question his right to raise the issue here, but I question again the wisdom of his action.

I have already explained my position at considerable length. I dislike intensely the spectacle of a young man on hunger strike for over a month and, if I could legitimately have helped by any action I could properly take, I would have done so before now. No good but only harm can come from a continuation of a campaign for his release, a campaign which has been categorised not only by sloganeering, which I suppose is inevitable, but more significantly by a willingness to bend the facts to breaking point, and at times well beyond it. I am sorry to find today that one of our daily newspapers has also joined in with an editorial which, while being reasonable on first reading, in fact does not stand up on examination. Again I accept their good faith. Indeed, an earlier editorial by them on the same issue not only pointed to the difficulties posed for me as Minister, but did so in language more forceful than anything I had said myself or that I said since.

Today's editorial takes issue with the judgment of the Supreme Court where the court said that the court of trial, having heard the witnesses and observed their demeanour and so on, found that the statements of admission were made voluntarily. The editorial says very forcefully that that is not so, as the accused man was not cross-examined. The writer is mistaken. He was. I am authoritatively informed that he was in fact cross-examined at considerable length, that the cross-examination extended over a period of several days. The court rejected his allegations and declared the statements to be admissable.

I am very conscious of the fact that it is really no part of my function as Minister to correct factual errors about court proceedings. I am aware that such errors are going uncorrected and unchallenged. Furthermore, in saying even what I have said, I am conscious of the fact that I could easily be taken very wrongly as some kind of spokesman for the courts, somebody explaining and defending their decisions. I must again emphasise that I have no such role, and that the fact that I do not challenge this or that statement about the court hearings or the evidence, does not mean they are true.

The question has been asked: am I seriously suggesting the courts cannot err, that they are infallible? I am not sure that that question is meant seriously because, of course, I have never said anything that would imply that I am suggesting that the courts are infallible. What I am saying is a very different thing and it is this. I, as Minister, have no right to take an action that would imply that my assessment of the evidence that was before the courts is better than theirs and that they were wrong in their verdict. Above all, I am not entitled by my actions to call into question, in a serious way, the truthfulness of the sworn testimony of a substantial number of gardaí.

No amount of talk about other allegations in or about that time can get away from the fact that we are here dealing with specifics, specific allegations and specific denials. It would be an absurdity to suggest that a verdict could be under any kind of cloud because of other allegations, unless the implication was that there was reason to believe something of the kind alleged had occurred in this particular case. That is precisely the issue, or at all events, the principal issue, that the courts had to deal with before reaching their decision, and it is also precisely the issue that brings into reckoning the question of the testimony of the gardaí. Those questions cannot be evaded or brushed aside by any formula or any rhetoric.

There may be those who speak without having considered this point, and there may even be people who genuinely cannot grasp it, but I am afraid that there are also those who see it very clearly but are not prepared to concede that they do. However, they do not carry the responsibility for the consequences of what they do. I cannot put the matter further. The House is fully informed of my position and of the impossibility of my taking any action at this stage. I understand that there is a report in a newspaper today that Senator Ryan is one of those due to address a protest meeting tonight. I am sure that has already taken place at this stage.

A difficulty arises. Senator Higgins referred to the fact that Mr. Kelly had not completed the appeal procedures open to him. This is, of course, correct. He had the right to appeal to the European Commission and to seek to have his case adjudged in Europe. Certainly, I, as Minister, would put no barrier in the way of Mr. Kelly proceeding along those lines.

The issue now is that the hunger strike has been taking place since 1 May. Mr. Kelly is now in hospital. We are coming to a crucial stage, and I again appeal to everybody who is concerned. I am aware that the vast majority of people are seriously concerned about this. I appeal to them: if you have any influence over any support group who are influential with Mr. Kelly, appeal to him to come off hunger strike. If he continues much further, and then discontinues his strike, there will be serious injury to his health. I appreciate the opportunity again to restate my views and I appreciate the concern of the Senators who raised this issue here tonight.

The Seanad adjourned at 10 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Friday, 3 June 1983.

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