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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 20 Feb 1986

Vol. 111 No. 8

Adjournment Matter. - Psychiatric Nursing Service.

I am obliged to you Sir, for allowing me raise in the Seanad on the Adjournment today the question of the need for the Minister for Health to indicate his plans for the introduction of a full and proper system of integrated nursing in the psychiatric nursing service. I raise this matter because of the fact that the whole question of integrated nursing is one which has been discussed within the nursing sphere for some time, because of the fact that the system is currently being introduced in some of our psychiatric hospitals and because of the fact that there is a certain amount of worry among nursing staffs and, indeed, among patients at the manner in which it is being implemented.

It might be no harm to reflect on the fact that in 1972 the report of the working party on psychiatric nursing services of health boards indicated as one of their recommendations that a system of integration be introduced. In chapter 13 of that report the problems in relation to integration were spelled out. But, above all, the need from a social point of view, from a medical point of view and from a caring point of view for the system to be introduced was fairly well spelt out.

In 1976, the European Community, in a directive which reflected upon the need for equality in legislation, also commented that legislation of this nature should be introduced. This was followed up here by the 1977 Employment Equality Act. It might be no harm to comment on the fact that that Act excluded certain things. Section 11 (2) of that Act provided that access to employment as a midwife or public health nurse to people of a particular sex was not to be deemed in contravention of the Act. Section 17 (2) (c) (d) dealt with the non-application of the Act in relation to the employment of a person where the sex of that person is an occupational qualification. Occupational qualifications were defined further in the Act and included particularly in section 17 (2) (d) "where either the nature of the duties attached to a post justify on the grounds of privacy or decency the employment of persons of a particular sex." Those provisions of the Employment Equality Act were in turn repealed by the European Communities Employment Regulations, 1982. The repeal of those provisions by the 1982 Regulations, in effect, made it mandatory upon health boards to see that a system of integrated nursing was introduced within their areas.

It is important to reflect on that background but I raise the matter because there is a great deal of concern at the manner in which it is being introduced. The issue has been raised with me by members of the nursing staff at St. Mary's Psychiatric Hospital, Castlebar. They are concerned as on the one hand they see consultation with management has taken place, which they regard as their right and which they appreciate but on the other hand they see that despite the consultation the system of integrated nursing has been introduced in a way that does not take full cognizance of their wishes, affairs or worries. They are concerned that their views as to the manner of the introduction of integration are not being properly considered and that there is no proper educational programme available to nurses before they involved themselves in integration. This is one point which the Minister's Department must examine very carefully within all health board areas. While the nurses in Castlebar, as everywhere else, accept that the chief nursing officer has powers and functions in relation to rostering, so far as rostering for integrated purposes is concerned, the nurses believe that before any nurse is rostered that nurse should be properly educated and trained within the integrated system. This is important for the more senior nurses and for people who have not had any experience of integrated nursing.

It is also important that the views of patients be taken into account. Many patients in our psychiatric hospitals are long stay. The very excellent report on the psychiatric services, Planning for the Future, produced by the Minister in 1984 indicated that. On Table 5 of that report, page 163, there was confirmation that over 61 per cent of those patients resident in public psychiatric hospitals as of 31 December 1983 had been there for more than five years. The majority of patients in our hospitals are there as long stay patients. It can be unfair that patients suddenly have a new system of nursing imposed on them. On the one hand, the nurses who operate the system must be properly educated and trained and also the views of the patients must be accounted for. Secondly, no proper guidelines have issued from the Department with a view to guiding nurses into the whole syustem of integration. There is an urgency that proper guidelines be issued in this regard.

Thirdly, despite the legal obligations which the 1982 regulations impose, the nurses should have a right to opt out of integrated nursing if they wish to do so on ethical or moral grounds. I say this in the light of the psychiatric service and against the view the Minister has expressed. Planning for the Future states that the role of nursing in the psychiatric service should be a broader one. In so far as certain aspects of integrated nursing are concerned nurses should have the right to opt out on ethical or moral grounds.

Another point to be borne in mind — I say this in relation to older nurses — is that no moneys have been made available for the purposes of converting psychiatric hospitals to the needs of integrated nursing. If our psychiatric hospitals are to work under an integrated system, the necessary funds to make the buildings and structures suitable for accepting such a system must be made available. I understand from the Western Health Board that they are attempting to introduce the system in Castlebar, as elsewhere within the Western Health Board region, in a manner which takes account of the views of all members of the nursing staff. Accepting that one has also to accept the views put forward by individual nurses that they have been forced into a system which they find difficult to deal with without due regard to their views.

For these reasons I would ask, first, that the system of integration be proceeded with but in doing so the resources be made available to allow that system operate in a proper and full manner. The problem existing at present is that these resources are not available. Resources should be made available for the training of nurses who participate in the system and that no nurse who is not trained be forced into integrated nursing. Secondly, I would ask that proper guidelines be laid down to ensure the manner in which integration is introduced and the manner in which it operates. Thirdly, I would ask that it be introduced in a way that is acceptable to the patients. When the system was initially introduced in Castlebar it was introduced in relation to those who were in the mentally handicapped, geriatric and the long stay areas; the system was not introduced in relation to those who were short stay patients. In other words, the system was introduced and imposed on those patients who were least able to accept it.

I would like a response to these specific points. I raise the issue because there is concern that the system be introduced in a meaningful way. There is also concern that the system at present is not being introduced in a way that is helpful to either the nursing staff or to the patients.

On the question of integration and the nursing profession, it is interesting that we had a threatened closedown of St. Dympna's Hospital in Carlow. Senator Durcan has been mentioning the fact that we have to have integration as between nursing the mentally handicapped, long stay and short stay patients. The first hospital in the psychiatric service in Ireland which did introduce integration fully in nursing services was St. Dympna's Hospital in Carlow and this has been happening for a long number of years. It is interesting that Senator Durcan should now raise the matter of integration in Castlebar. We have had integration in St. Dympna's Hospital in Carlow for a long number of years and it has been one of the hospitals which has been labelled for closure.

Do not develop that.

It should not happen. Integration in nursing services is something the nursing profession want and they have not disagreed upon. There is absolutely no member of the nursing profession that I have ever come across that has any problem about having an integrated nursing service. There are problems in training and the fact that we have no integrated nursing professional training service at present. In the teaching profession teachers are trained to be primary teachers or secondary teachers by going through college and sitting for a H.Dip. — a ridiculous situation, where a teacher is just a teacher. Very few people, except for the De La Salle Brothers, are in actual fact trained to be teachers. The same applies to nursing which is a caring profession. There is no such thing as pretending that a nurse can be a specialist in all areas.

The system should be able to be worked so that if a person decides to become a nurse he or she should be able to be integrated into the nursing profession at all professional levels within the psychiatric and the mentally handicapped services. Unfortunately, too many people misread the situation that exists. There are people who are mentally handicapped who should not be in psychiatric hospitals and should not be under the aegis of psychiatric nurses. There are psycho-geriatric patients who because of their age become psycho-geriatric. They are not psychiatric patients. The integrated nursing system which Senator Durcan refers to is a necessity which should be implemented immediately.

May I assure Senators Durcan and Lanigan that I very much appreciate the points made by them in relation to integration in our psychiatric hospitals. It needs to be implemented at two levels. First of all, among the staff themselves. We have highly trained psychiatric nurses and it is absolutely essential that we deliver psychiatric nursing care on an integrated basis irrespective of the nurses' sex. That is the first principle. In that regard we have made quite considerable progress but we still have a good deal of work to do.

The second principle is that we must have integration among patients. In that regard between men and women in our psychiatric hospitals we have to have a common day care provision, common integrated dining facilities, recreational facilities and other facilities delivered to patients irrespective of their sex. I make these two points because it has been long held by the medical profession and by senior nursing and management that these factors are two essential elements in the provision of psychiatric care. There are a number of compelling reasons and I want to concentrate on three of these for early implementation of full integration in our psychiatric hospitals.

The first reason was adverted to by Senator Durcan quite correctly. With the introduction of the Employment Equality Act 1977, the designation of nursing posts as exclusively female or male posts is now prohibited by law. In order to meet this requirement the practice of deploying staff on the basis of nurses' sex must also be changed. The Employment Equality Agency made a particular ruling, as the Senators are aware, to this effect around the time I came into office. With difficulty we implemented the decision.

While the legal position has given a new urgency to integration, another more important reason is, of course, to provide a better standard of care to patients. The doctors and nurses who care for psychiatric patients agree that the rehabilitation of those patients, so that they might resume their normal place in the community, is their major role. Yet from their beginning the psychiatric hospitals have been structured to keep men and women apart, both patients and staff. This was quite abnormal and the real abnormality is that we, the politicians, responsible for the health portfolios over the years tolerated such an abnormal artifical separation, because it did great harm to the concept of helping patients to resume ordinary life with those in the community. Therfore, integration at staff and patient level in the hospital setting is a necessary prerequisite for the preparation of patients, the vast majority of patients in the ordinary course of an effective service, for their return to society.

The third reason is, of course, that an integrated nursing practice is essential for the professional development of staff. We have a very high ratio of nurses to patients in this country. It is important therefore, for the development of our psychiatric services that our nurses are employed without the restrictions which inevitably arise when one has a lack of an integrated system. In this way their professional skills to help patients can be developed further.

We have made considerable progress. A joint union-management forum on psychiatric nursing was set up in October 1983. The objective of the forum was to reach agreement on a number of issues in the psychiatric nursing services, among them the question of integration. Originally it had been intended to leave this question to the end of the forum's discussion. However, due to increasing pressure on nursing staff arising from vacancies left unfilled since the old form of recruitment had been discontinued, most health boards needed to recruit both student and staff nurses as a matter of urgency at that time. Under the terms of the Employment Equality Act nurses would have to be recruited without discrimination whatsoever on the basis of sex. Therefore, the issue had to be resolved at the time without delay.

The discussions began in May 1984 and continued until September 1984, when agreement was reached on the introduction of integration. The following procedural agreement was endorsed. The parties to the forum first of all agreed that it was a matter for local resolution in each hospital. With that in view an integration committee, consisting of the chief psychiatrist, the nurse management, the hospital administrator and the local union representative, was set up in each psychiatric hospital. The objective of the integration committees was to facilitate the maximum degree of consultation between management and staff interests on the implementation of integration in each psychiatric hospital. This also ensured a compliance on the part of the health boards with the Employment Equality Act, 1977, in the filling of nursing posts.

The programme manager of each health board was to convene the inaugural meeting of the integration committee in each hospital and it was envisaged that the parties would consider the legal framework within which the committee's deliberations would take place. Subsequently it was agreed that management would advise the committee on the specific programme for integration in each hospital and it would be a matter for each committee to determine whatever procedures were necessary to give effect to that programme. Therefore, at this point the forum was effectively removed from the detailed involvement in the integration programme of each hospital.

We did a survey 12 months ago. The survey was done by the Local Government Staff Negotiations Board. Inaugural meetings of integration committees had been held in every psychiatric hospital in the country, with follow-up meetings in the majority of hospitals and with orientation seminars for the senior nursing staff. These were held in almost all of the health board areas. If Senators are of the view that further meetings are necessary, examination or education-wise, I will certainly go back to any health board they might want to contact me about. But that work of basic education and training has been well under way.

The survey also showed 12 months ago that progress on the integration of male and female staff differed from health board to health board and from hospital to hospital, and this position continues. It seems that least progress has been made where the influence of integration on promotion prospects within the hospital has caused unrest, in a hospital where the integration impinges on promotion. Some hospitals are awaiting the resolution of the promotion issue at the forum before insisting on full integration of nursing staff within the hospital.

Regarding the point raised by Senator Durcan about the right of staff to opt out, there is no right to opt out of integration.

If not properly trained?

The function of the programme manager with the chief nursing officer, the hospital administrator and the chief consultant psychiatrist in that hospital is to have a proper system of education and training of staff. After that is done the integration takes place. But there are some who feel that they may yet have either an ethical, an organisational or a promotional entitlement to opt out. That is not there. I must enforce the legal position whereby there can be no discrimination on promotion between men and women, no discrimination on the allocation of shift rosters and no discrimination as regards work content between psychiatric nurses.

On a point of information, is it not true that in a certain number of areas where there were difficulties in this integration process the unions, the Transport Union and the PNA, have made a once-off decision that in certain cases they will leave the integration process back until certain people are looked after in the short term but that once these people are looked after then the normal process that you want and that everybody wants will happen.

There have undoubtedly been particular arrangements at local level but I would not think that psychiatric nurses retire at age 57. There have been occasional cases where particular arrangements are entered into but where new promotional arrangements are coming up there cannot be any opting out otherwise, quite frankly, I would be before the courts of the land.

There are no real difficulties with the PNA or the ITGWU on this.

No, by and large, the trade unions have not just accepted but have operated. It is a very difficult area for people, particularly those of us in our mid-fifties to have to change our total work pattern and where many of us may have expected to be promoted. On a sex differentiated basis that promotion will not come.

Or an age differentiation.

There would be no endorsement by me, by any programme manager, health board or personnel officer of a health board, of an entitlement to opt out.

Accepting that, surely nurses cannot be forced to opt in without proper training and without any guidelines?

The general guidelines have been issued by my Department and these have been the guidelines that I have outlined about how to go about it at local level. We have a large number of administrators in the health boards at personnel level. We have hospitals administrators who apply the guidelines at local level. By and large, I am reasonably pleased at the extent to which integration has taken place. It has not been without pain and difficulty but it has taken longer than I would have thought. I am very anxious that particularly the promotion issue should be resolved because a male or female psychiatric nurse in my absolute view — and it is absolute because I must implement the law of the land — has a legal entitlement not to be discriminated against on promotion. That is very rigid and I do not propose to go into any court of law to defend any adverse or perverse decision in that regard.

I will conclude by saying that to an extent our Department have of course not been directly involved in the development of the integration programmes. It has been resolved for the most part at local level. I would also make the point that we have provided money where it is necessary to have, for example, additional sanitary service facilities for integration of staff and patients in local hospitals. In each of those cases we have made the funds available from the minor capital grants provided by my Department. So far, we have spent about £3 million in our psychiatric hospitals, doing not all that work, but there is nowhere that integration has been impeded due to the lack of money for additional sanitary facilities.

I might also make the final point that in my experience, where integration did not exist and where subsequently integration came in — and I have been both in the male and female wards of some hospitals in this country — in many instances there has been a transformation in hospitals both between staff and patients and among the local community. I want to thank the psychiatric nursing staff for that co-operation and I will be urging the hospitals again to press on to complete the process of integration in the best interests of patient care and of the development of psychiatric nurse training in our community.

The Seanad adjourned at 5.10 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 26 February 1986.

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