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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 20 Mar 1986

Vol. 111 No. 16

Adjournment Matter: Repair of County Roads.

The matter I am raising on the Adjournment refers to the need for the Minister for the Environment to allow local authorities, as an executive function, to deploy a greater proportion of the national road grant to the repair and renewal of the minor county road network. I am raising this issue because of the rapidly deteriorating conditions of this very important section of the national public roadway. In practically every county at the moment, but especially in the western or the poorer regions of the country, the situation has reached appalling and unacceptable levels. Primarily this results from the starvation of funds which commenced after 1977. I will not go into the reasons for this happening, but we all know that we had the abolition of the domestic rates in 1977 and that they, by and large, paid for the maintenance of the minor roads. While that document presaged and, indeed, afterwards implemented that policy, of rates abolition, it did not tell us about the abolition of the services paid for by rates.

We might look at what has happened since 1977 in terms of the kind of funds that have been spent on this minor road network about which I am talking and which, of course, represents the greatest mileage of roadway in the country. We might look at the figures for those minor roads and also have a look at the figures of expenditure for the national primary roads and the national secondary roads. If we go back to 1977 we find that in that year the expenditure on the minor or county road network throughout the State amounted to £21.7 million; in 1978, it increased to £25.5 million; in 1979, it was £28.3 million; in 1980, it was £31.6 million; in 1981, it was £33.6 million; in 1982, it was £36.4 million; in 1983, it was £40.4 million; and in 1984, which is the last year for which we have figures, it reached £42.2 million. It would be a safe estimate to say that in 1985 the expenditure would have been of the order of £44 million. Of course, every year since 1977 there have been measurable increases. There have been increases well below the rate of inflation, so that in real terms the expenditure has fallen dramatically. It is estimated that, if we spent £44 million in 1985 to maintain matters as they were in 1977, we would have needed to have spent £54 million. That is just to maintain things as they were, but there are many reasons why they should not have stayed the way they were. There was need for development in these roads, but we were at least £10 million short in expenditure in one year in maintaining road conditions as they were eight years prior to that date.

Let us look at the expenditure on the national primary and secondary roads. We will start with 1979. We find that in that year £30.7 million was expended in that year; in 1980, there was an increase to £38.8 million; in 1981, it increased quite dramatically to £57.8 million; there was a very dramatic increase between 1981 and 1982 because in 1982 it was £72.9 million; in 1983, it was £91.7 million; and, in 1984, it was £94.9 million. The year 1984 is the last year for which we have figures, but it would be safe to estimate it was £122 million or so for 1985. One sees there that in every year there has been an increase well above the level of inflation. The real rate of expenditure on these roads has been well ahead of inflation, so that real improvements have been effected. Under the National Plan — we congratulate the Government for bringing this about — there is to be major expenditure on that category of road. We agree that this is needed and it is reflected in the 1984 and 1985 figures.

In terms of the national minor roads network these figures were damning enough in the sense that we have shown clearly there has been a major decrease in real terms in the funds allocated to these roads — but they do not illustrate all the facts. I am talking about the varying conditions from county to county and the varying density of by-roads in various counties, which is very important. In western counties the minor road density is far greater by and large, than it is in the other areas of the country. That has historical roots: the small farm settlements and small community settlements are of much older vintage in the West of Ireland, because after the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries we had the adoption of a kind of peasant farming. That was, by and large, in very high density in the West of Ireland. Naturally, pathways and throughways were created down the centuries. Upon those pathways meandering little roads were built and nowadays they are part of the public road network. They must be maintained. They service a lot of people. In the eastern part of the country until the nineteenth century we were dealing with very large estates where the countryside was not laid out to any great degree in communities or in villages or townlands. When it did take place centuries later in those areas it was done on a much more orderly level. That is the historical root of this problem in the various counties. The odd thing is that in the poorer counties the problem is exacerbated because of the very high density of roads. In the richer counties the same problem does not exist because of the different type of historical background.

Another problem is the land structure underneath these roads in the western regions. That is generally of a less solid quality than the substructure pertaining in the southern regions or in the southeastern or eastern regions. Kerry is in the south and a great part of Cork is in the south, but I am sure the western areas of those counties are subject to the same climatic conditions as any county along the western seaboard. However, generally speaking, the point I am making is that the substructures in the western areas of the country are not as good as they are in the eastern part of the country. That is because of the different land types. In the west we have much larger areas of bog and so on and, we also have different climatic conditions. The western half of the country gets a far higher rainfall than the eastern half. That has a major damaging effect on the roads in the sense that it causes expansion during frost and heavy rainfall. This causes fissuring on the surface of the roads. That is always the genesis for the general break-up of the roadway in those areas.

These climatic factors and the different land type or substructure factors are completely forgotten in the Minister's Department in O'Connell Bridge House. I would have to say to the Minister that all policy proceeds from the centre of the Pale, if we want to call it that — and I am not one of those people who feel that there should be any great divide between the country and the city. But there is a certain Pale mentality, and it is a very real thing. Among the policymakers in O'Connell House I believe there is a Pale mentality. They do not see or understand the real problem many miles west and south of Dublin. That Pale mentality is all-pervasive.

Another factor completely forgotten since the commencement of the running down of funds around 1978 is that at that time there was a major development in agriculture in this country. Those were good years for dairying and the dairy herd was expanding. The mechanisation of the milk collection system was coming on stream in a major way, introducing on to all of these roads hundreds of vehicles with very heavy axle weight. In 1978, 1979 and 1980 they were coming on to the roads because those were the boom years of expansion. In those years the Common Agricultural Policy had plenty of money and optimism about it. Allied to that development was the increased activity on farms themselves. There were increases in silage making. This introduced on to the roads, in addition to the other vehicles I have talked about, a whole range of very heavy, high horsepower tractors and harvesting machinery, all with a very heavy axle weight. Naturally, this development had a very deleterious effect on these roads. Very often they were never meant to carry that kind of axle weight, but the withdrawal of maintenance, repair and renewal had an utterly disastrous effect on roads throughout the countryside.

Many people from the CII and the FUE and many people in positions of influence within the Department, indeed, would argue that even if the county roads fall apart, the national primary roads and national secondary roads are far more important. They would say that they are the most important roads in the country and they are under-funded and, therefore, most of the available funds must be spent on those categories only. I totally agree that our major roads are under-funded. I hope the national plan is changing that. That is no argument from anybody, no matter from what source it comes. There is no reason why the roads I am speaking about should be robbed of their fair share of resources. They have a right to a fair share. Every day millions of pounds of farming merchandise is transported over these roads. They are essential arteries to the country's major economic and wealth-creating activity, which is agriculture. That is forgotten by the policy-makers.

I wish to look at a more specific case to illustrate a little better what is taking place. I will take my own county of Roscommon as a case of a rural county in the west which is as typical as Sligo, Mayo and, indeed, Kerry, as another Senator will be speaking about afterwards. In Roscommon, we have a total mileage of 2,444 miles. We have 62 miles of national primary roads, 90 miles of national secondary roads and 376 miles of national main or regional roads, as they are called. In addition to that, we have 2,068 miles of county road. This year the budget for expenditure — and it is a budget laid down by the Department of the Environment — is £979,000 for our 62 miles of national primary road. We are to spend almost £1.3 million on all 90 miles of our national secondary roads and we are to spend just under £600,000 on the 376 or so miles of main or regional roads. We are to spend only £1.5 million on the 2,068 miles of county and minor roads. In 1984 the local authority did a survey which showed that there was 140 miles of that system in need of complete reconstruction. The implication was that it was almost impassable or unusable; 330 miles of it needed extensive repairs. Incidentally, the cost of that first category on the 140 miles I mentioned was £2.2 million. That was the estimated cost of restoring it and making it passable again. The 330 miles needed extensive repairs at a cost of £3.3 million and 290 miles of it needed urgent surface dressing which would cost almost £2.9 million. That was in 1984. We are talking about expenditure of about £8 million to bring the roads to an acceptable level of travelability, not to talk about the annual budget for maintenance, renewal and repair.

I want to let my colleague in, so I hope I have explained the situation in the few minutes available to me and I have illustrated the dire and absolute need for a change of policy.

I have no objection to the Senator giving some of his time to another Senator, but he should have indicated his intention to do so at the outset.

I am sorry if I did not. I had every intention of so doing.

The whole question of the funding of county roads, as Senator Connor has pointed out, has become an issue of major social and economic significance in the west of Ireland. There is a great feeling of bitterness among the people towards us, as politicians, for not making funds available through some source towards the maintenance of these roads.

I would like, in what I have to say, to refer specifically to Kerry. There are 2,400 miles of county road in Kerry. Because of our very low percentage mileage compared with the total percentage of national primary and secondary roads, the county road network is used extensively. Because of the lack of funding for maintenance and repairs the whole county road network is seriously disintegrating at present and is, in some cases, almost impassable. The fact that we have high rainfall in Kerry and that many of our county roads are built on boggy soil are further considerations. I am sure that the Minister is aware that Kerry is a major tourist county. It represents £80 million of our total income in the county. The fact that we have such a wide network of county roads means that these are used extensively by tourists. It must be a source of embarrassment to us as Irish people when people of various nationalities are forced to travel along these roads. For that reason we will just have to face up to the problem.

In north Kerry, which is the main source of supply of milk for north Kerry milk products, the county roads are in constant use by large bulk tankers collecting milk from milk collection points and from individual farmers. Senator Connor referred to these large tankers which formerly were not on these roads. These vehicles are doing untold damage to the roads. There is constant stress on the road system which is subsiding beneath the immense weights in many areas.

I would like to refer to a few figures regarding the funding of Kerry roads. In 1979, for example, the total funds available for county roads in Kerry was roughly £1.3 million. This figure changed very little up to 1985 when the amount of funds available was £1.3650 million. If we take inflation and the rise in costs of materials into consideration this represented a significant decrease in the amount available in 1979. However, this year the amount available has increased slightly to £1,664,000. This figure will make little impression on bringing the roadwork up to an acceptable standard.

At a recent estimates meeting the county engineer indicated that it would take £6 million to bring the roads up to a reasonable standard in 1986. I would like to point out that the yield from local charges — water, refuse and commercial rates — is very low in County Kerry vis-a-vis other counties, although our rate is one of the highest in the country, being 30p in the £. Nevertheless, because of low valuation the yield from rates is very low at £1.6 million. Only 12 per cent of the population in County Kerry are ratepayers. Also, there is a major shortfall of revenue from the relief grants given by the Department in lieu of agricultural and domestic rates compared with the actual revenue that we would be getting now if the 1977 conditions still prevailed. A sum of £5.4 million has been allocated for this year towards major improvements on national primary and secondary routes within the county. Major improvements have taken place on those roads in County Kerry over the past five years. The most important thing at present to people in Kerry is not the major repairs, which benefit visitors, but the bringing up to standard of county roads. I would recommend that 50 per cent of this money should be directed towards the maintenance of county roads in 1986. Provision should be made immediately for this before the whole structure becomes irreparable.

I want to assure Senator Connor, Senator Deenihan and Members of the House that I am fully aware of the problems in relation to county roads. A number of measures have been taken in recent years to assist local authorities in this respect. The block grant to local authorities, which can be used for county road improvements, was increased by 10 per cent in 1985 and by 21 per cent in 1986, bringing the total allocation this year to £20.4 million. The increase over the past two years has been substantially ahead of the cost increases. This year's 21 per cent increase was given at a time when the total level of State funding available for roads increased by 4 per cent. In May 1985 a 75 per cent grant towards the cost of approved improvement works on the more important county roads and bridges was announced by my predecessor. Grants totalling £3 million have been notified to county councils this year to finance improvement works on county roads used mainly for agriculture or forestry in those parts of the country covered by the western package. This is £1 million more than provided for in 1985. I am sure that Senators will agree that this represents a significant response and shows that the Government are sensitive to the needs of county roads.

Senator Connor suggested that local authorities should be allowed to divert moneys from national roads to the maintenance and improvement of county roads. It is important at this point to explain the Government's road development policy as set out in the 1985 Road Plan.

The main aims of road development policy are five in number: (1) to provide an adequate inter-urban road network, linking the major towns, ports and airports; (2) to eliminate traffic bottlenecks and provide by-passes for towns on national routes; (3) to reduce urban congestion by providing new bridges, ring roads and relief roads; (4) the preservation through proper maintenance of existing and planned road investment; (5) the improvement of road safety. In addition, the plan contains a programme of 54 major improvement projects to be undertaken in the period of 1985-87.

I am pleased to inform the House that progress on the programme is satisfactory. Of the 54 projects listed to commence for the period 1985-87, 28 projects are in progress. That gives an indication of the importance which the Government place on our road network. It is the first time since the foundation of the State that the whole question of road infrastructure has been taken seriously.

Senator Deenihan made the point about the vast investment in tourism in the Kerry region. It is important that good roads and a good infrastructure exist to attract tourists to the Kerry region. That is why we place great emphasis on good main road infrastructure, particularly when talking about the west and south-west, in order to make these areas more viable economically.

As I indicated, I accept the points made by the Senators in regard to county roads. It is also fair to point out that it has always been the responsibility of local authorities to look after county roads. Nothing has happened to change that system. As I indicated, moneys have been given and there is a commitment by the Government to ensure that county roads get some share of capital. It behoves local authorities also to look at their own resources. One way would be to look at charges specifically levied for county road improvements. Public representatives have made the point quite clearly that they are under severe pressure from their constituents to get something done. One way would be if something specific could be levied for that type of operation so that county roads would be given priority within the expenditure and not left at the end of the line, as is often the case. At present it seems that when almost all the money has been spent whatever is left goes towards county roads. It is important that people should look at it like that. Looking at the figures we see that in the case of Roscommon County Council the road grant allocation for 1986 represents an increase of 12 per cent in real terms, compared with the average for 1979-82.

Most was to be spent on roads that are good already.

As I indicated, it is important that the main infrastructure is kept in good condition. If we started diverting money all over the place we would have the worst of all worlds, a non-roads situation. I accept the point made by the Senator. I want to assure the House that I do not have a closed mind — indeed, I do not have the Pale mentality. Ironically, the officials in my Department who look after this very well, come from Limerick, Cork and Waterford. One would not say that they have a Pale mentality. I assure the Senators that I will bear in mind what they have said. I will note the density, particularly in the west, and consider the poor weather conditions and soil conditions which the Senator pointed out. We will keep it under review.

Many local authorities are sitting back in the hope that something might be coming. If local authorities did something, there might be a better understanding of the position. The Department and the Minister are certainly concerned about the problems the Senator has. We are always trying to find a way to solve them. The way to do so is not by robbing the other road fund. That would be a negative approach. I want to assure the Senator that we will keep this matter in mind and, if there is any way we can help, we will do so.

The Seanad adjourned at 5 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 25 March 1986.

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