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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 21 Mar 1990

Vol. 124 No. 9

Adjournment Matter. - County Limerick Industrial Dispute.

I would like to thank the Minister for his presence here tonight for this debate on what I consider an important issue in our area. It is in connection with the strike in the Goodman plant in Rathkeale, County Limerick. This strike, which has continued over the past seven weeks, has led to a very serious position. Many attempts have been made to try to settle this. My information is, however, that the two sides are so far apart at the moment that, even now as a conciliation conference is taking place, the likelihood is that there will not be a solution at the end of this conference.

The issue is of great concern to the people of Rathkeale. It is a small town with a population of fewer than 2,000; and an industry with a turnover of £26 million and of wages going into the area of almost £2 million is a vital part of the economy. The loss of such an industry would have a devastating effect on the town of Rathkeale and of County Limerick in general. There is a strong possibility and a danger that this industry will be lost to the area. It will also be a loss to the farmers in the region, who for 38 years have supported this company. They were instrumental in the setting up of the original factory and have sold their cattle and supported the company over that time. Now because of this strike it is possible that the company will close for at least a year and a half. My hope is that the Minister will intervene and try to obtain a settlement. At this stage it is necessary to do so.

The factory was established in 1952 by the people of Rathkeale. The objective at the time was to create employment there. That remained the objective of the organisation and coloured the industrial relations process of the organisation over the years. They were always regarded as good employers who treated their employees in a fair fashion, who were progressive in their industrial relations policies, and the natural conflicts that arise in an organisation were always solved through the industrial relations process, through the negotiations, discussion and communications that are general in good employers.

The company were profitable up to the sale of the company. In the year the company were sold to the Goodman Group, 1987, they experienced their second biggest profit since 1952. The company were successful. They were a public company and the shares were brought from two shareholders which gave the Goodman Group a majority shareholding in the company. The objectives of the company changed obviously from being one of solely creating employment and improving the economy of the locality, as well as making profit, to one of solely making profit and reducing cost to the minimum, regardless of the consequences to the people and to the locality.

The issue has got to do with a bonus scheme which was established in 1974. It was a work study scheme based on work measurement, the establishment of work values and a bonus based on such a scientific approach. During 1974 to the takeover and up to six months after that there was a work study department in existence which ensured that the bonus scheme was kept up to date, that the scheme was updated to take into account any changes in work practices or in equipment, that new values were installed and that the scheme was maintained. Any argument that the scheme fell into disrepair over that period is not a viable argument.

In early 1988 the then work study department was abolished. The personnel management was also withdrawn from the company and over a period of time, because the scheme was not maintained, the standards slipped somewhat and the company changed their approach. I believe it was a conscious decision by the company to allow the scheme to go into disarray and to then create the argument that the scheme should be withdrawn. The purpose of the exercise was to reduce cost and to reduce the level of remuneration to the employees. This is what has happened and has created the problem.

The present situation is that the company have unilaterally withdrawn the measured scheme and have proposed the introduction of a piece work scheme. The company were fully aware that a strike would ensue from this. It was not news to the company because in October, during the height of the busy season in the meat industry, in the killing period, the company made an attempt to withdraw the scheme and were issued with strike notice. They decided instead to pick the period of January when the company was best able to take the strike because of the seasonality aspect of the trade.

Having looked at the new scheme and having known the old scheme intimately because, in fact, I was instrumental in introducing that scheme and in maintaining that scheme for a period of 16 or 17 years, there is no doubt that there is a substantial drop in remuneration to the employees at a time when standards of living and cost of living, etc., are under pressure. It is difficult at any time to ask employees to take a drop in incomes.

I believe that change is necessary in any organisation but change must come about by negotiation, by agreement, by the understanding of the employees, and by the understanding of the company that they must get agreement from the employees rather than create conflict and unilaterally change working conditions. Changes have come about prior to this in Shannon Meat in Rathkeale with the agreement of the workers. The workers were always positive towards change, once they understood the issues involved. They embraced change when they saw it was necessary. Certainly with the profitable levels of the parent organisation and the profitability levels of the factory itself it is very hard to convince workers that they should take a cut in their standards of living when the same organisation is in the process of buying up various enterprises right throughout Europe. Obviously it is the responsibility of the Goodman group to try to make their operations as cost effective as possible but I believe this is not the issue on which they should do it. I believe the approach, which I refer to as a macho-management approach, towards the problem and working towards a win lose situation and involving themselves in certain activities which have aggravated the situation there are not conducive to bringing about a settlement to this. I believe, and I am convinced of this because of other experiences, that the survival of the factory is under threat, if not indefinitely certainly for a period of time.

One of the biggest, most effective and most successful beef canning facilities is in Rathkeale. It was built up by the people of Rathkeale. It was built up by the management in Rathkeale prior to the Goodman takeover. There is a great worry that if the strike continues this facility will be lost, moved elsewhere, either within this country or abroad. This is a very successful enterprise and I would be very concerned that this will be lost even if there is a closure for a period of 12 months or a year and a half.

The sides are very much apart; the company are not prepared to substantially concede their proposals. The union sees the situation as so far removed from what their objectives are that they are not in a position to consider any change from their position. I believe that tonight will again prove that there is a very serious situation there and I think it is incumbent on us all to try to find a solution.

I have done what I could locally to try to obtain a solution, to influence the people involved but to no avail. The situation is becoming more and more serious and I earnestly ask the Minister to do everything he can by way of intervention or any other way to try to bring about a resolution. I am also aware, through my contacts in the industrial relations area, that any conciliation conferences that took place so far were of absolutely no help and in fact the position is so serious that the groups did not even meet at those conciliation conferences. Normally at conciliation people sit across the table from each other and have a certain discussion before going into side conferences but the situation is so serious that the groups will not even meet. I would implore the Minister again to do what he can to intervene in the situation and ensure that this enterprise and this employment is saved for the people of Rathkeale, for the economy of Rathkeale, especially for the employees who are likely to lose their jobs and for the farmers who support it and who require this service in the mid-west.

May I thank Senator Neville for the opportunity to discuss this issue for a short time in the Seanad this evening. I am aware that Senator Neville has been trying for some time to raise the issue on the Adjournment. From his own experience, he has outlined a great deal of the background to this dispute. I do not want in any way to disagree or to have any contention about any of those issues. From my understanding, they seem to be more or less a lot of the issues that have built up from the various reports I have got. I appreciate the Senator has a lot of personal experience as well from being on the ground. He has listened to all sides and heard all the views. For the record, the dispute in Anglo-Irish Beef Processors Limited, which includes Shamrock Meats, Rathkeale, commenced on 5 February last. There are about 120 employed in the operation. My understanding, from all the discussions and the briefings that we have had in the Department of Labour, with our industrial relations arm in the Labour Court and the conciliation service, and other discussions I have had, both in the other House last Thursday and with people who have directly approached me from the Rathkeale area is that about 24 or so people would be directly affected by this bonus scheme.

I do not disagree with the Senator either that sums of money in the region of £50 are being lost in the restructuring of the bonus scheme and are, indeed, substantial to put it mildly, and would cause great difficulties to the people involved.

The company notified the union, SIPTU, that they needed to restructure a bonus scheme which has not been altered for 15 years, as the Senator stated. When the company were taken over by the present owners they set about correcting outdated practices and procedures in order to make the operation viable and competitive and the bonus scheme, around which the dispute hinges, as again the Senator has mentioned, was intended as an incentive for production achievements but had long lost its effectiveness. I suppose that is not unusual in bonus schemes that have run for a long period of time. Modern machinery was installed to enable greater production. This necessitated the restructuring of the bonus scheme and everyone agreed that this was necessary, but to find the acceptable formula has caused all the present difficulties and this dispute.

On one point of detail, I think the Senator said that the disputes started around August. As I understand it, at the beginning of last year the management were going to impose what they thought was the new scheme but when there was a willingness to enter into discussions to try to structure a new bonus scheme, there was agreement that the management would not pursue their action in January 1989. The discussion which, from my information, did not take place was actually around for a year. I got that from both sides and from my local contacts. I am not making any great issue but just to show that it was not something that happened quickly. It simmered, certainly over a period of about 14 months and led to the start of the present dispute.

Again, when no progress was made at the local negotiations over that period, the Labour Court became involved. Proposals emerged from the Labour Court conciliation discussion which took place on 7 February 1990. These proposals were rejected by the workers. As the Senator states, very little was gained. There was very little progress made at these discussions. A further conciliation conference took place on 6 March but unfortunately no progress was made on that occasion either.

We are aware of the dangers attached to a prolonged dispute. There is nothing I would like to say other than to urge, as I have in the other House and at numerous informal meetings over the last four weeks or so, both sides to see the value of negotiation, consideration, debate and dialogue. For either management or the union to prolong this dispute or to make it worse will not be in the interest of anybody. In all disputes, as we who deal with them on a regular basis know, there never is a winner. There are only losers and the degree of loss is all a matter of debate at the end of it.

The firm's market share is put at risk with the possible loss of valuable employment. There is no doubt about that. We have all seen the weekend statements of what could happen and we are aware of the views of both sides on this issue. I want to assure the Seanad and in particular the Senator who brought this matter to the floor of the Seanad tonight, that I have been keeping in close contact with the dispute since it began early last month. It has now been in progress for almost two months, which is very serious for such an important industry with an important number of jobs. However, I am aware that the parties are in communication and I hope this latest attempt to find a solution will be successful.

There are some grounds for hope no matter how tenuous they may be. It is incumbent of me, and this is what the Senator is urging, to try to keep in close touch and to use the machinery of the State that is at my disposal to try to come to a resolution of this dispute. There are a lot of jobs at stake, not only in Anglo-Irish Beef Processors, which includes Shannon Meats, but also in some other industries. I accept what the Senator has said and his concern, and the concern of his colleagues in the area who have been raising this matter with me, about the importance of trying to maintain this viable employment which has served the area well. From all I have heard it has been good employment and well paid in the past.

I would like, a Chathaoirligh, to take this opportunity to wish the talks which are at present going on, well. A great amount of effort is being put in by both sides. Just before I came into the Seanad I was in touch with the conciliation service and if there is anything I can do, or if there is any way in which I can be helpful, I can assure the Senator that I will do all I can to assist.

I would like to thank the Minister for his reply. By way of clarification, it is not correct to say that alterations did not take place to the scheme over 15 years. In fact new equipment was put in in 1987 and a complete new work measurement was done at that time. The incentive scheme was kept up to date right through the period and it was as effective in 1987, when I left the organisation, as it was in 1974. I would like to wish the talks well tonight. I am personally very concerned about the situation and I hope we will have a good result. I would like to say to the Minister that I hope that if the case is not to our liking we may discuss the situation again in some forum or other with a view to working towards a settlement.

The Seanad adjourned at 8.15 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 22 March 1990.

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