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Seanad Éireann debate -
Friday, 15 May 1992

Vol. 132 No. 11

Adjournment Matters. - Cork Flats Complex.

I suppose there is more than a little anomaly in the fact that two residents of the same constituency in Cork are discussing this Friday afternoon a problem in Cork city, 160 miles away, when both of us would prefer to be well on our way back there, if not there at this stage. Nevertheless, the problem of the flats at Blackpool is extremely important. The Minister is probably more familiar with the problem than I as he is more actively involved as a constituency representative in the area. There is not much point in my describing at great length the problem, but for the record and because it is important, the unanimous view of the Blackpool Development Group, the Blackpool Community Association and the tenants is that the flats should be demolished. I do not think the tenants are too concerned whether they are demolished as long as they get out of them and the flats are not used for human habitation or for family housing.

Cork Corporation, at a time when the Minister was still a member, voted heavily in favour of demolishing the flats. I do not intend this to be anything but a factual statement, but the flats should never have been built. They overlook a scrapyard. As most people know, the scrap metal business involves a lot of noise which continues well into the night. This is not a suitable environment; it also generates a fair amount of dust. On that score alone it is an unsuitable location for family housing.

Clothes washing facilities in the flats are, to say the least, restricted and it would not be exaggerating to say that the facilities for drying clothes, simple things like that which are associated with ordinary family living, are impossible. Carrying small children up to the higher flats is difficult, if not impossible. Many years ago when I was a member of the Labour Party I visited those flats while canvassing for a man who is since deceased, Pat Kerrigan. Those flats were one of the least pleasant parts of my introduction to Cork — I had only been in Cork for two months at that time, I remember mothers of small children crying in desperation because of the sense they had of being locked in, the difficulty in getting a pram up and down unsuitable steps, the unsuitability of the balconies and their perpetual fear that children would fall off the balconies.

After all the mistakes of the past, we have now at least got to a stage where the tenants, the corporation and the local community all agree on what should be done. The problem is that there is nowhere else for the tenants of those flats to go because there is no money available in Cork for local authority housing. The housing record in Cork is unspeakably bad. I am not blaming the present Minister for that but I will blame him if he does not now do something about it — he was not the Minister at that time, although his party are responsible.

Last year Cork Corporation must have achieved something of a record — they built one house. This year Cork Corporation will build 25 houses. There are now, effectively, 2,000 applicants on Cork Corporation's housing list. Those 25 houses will have to be distributed among 2,000 people. In addition, there are considerable numbers of potentially very good flats needing refurbishment in Mayfield and The Glen, in the same part of the north side of Cork which cannot be refurbished because of lack of funds.

There are people living in accommodation that everybody agrees is appalling, which the tenants are finding increasingly unpleasant but because of a decision, which I would not hesitate to describe as the most anti-social decision taken by an Irish Government in recent years, to effectively end local authority house building, problems are piling up of which the most extreme is the flats in Blackpool. Because of that and the tendency of Cork Corporation in recent times to use the flats as a place to relocate tenants who have been unsuccessful in securing alternative accommodation or who have been evicted, the long standing tenants of that area are becoming increasingly angry and demoralised about their physical living conditions.

They highlighted the presence of human excrement in the flats; they found vermin there and provided evidence of dead rats, etc. and members of Cork Corporation will recall this. This is an indication of those people's extreme frustration. They are entitled to better from us, they are entitled to somewhere decent to live. I do not believe housing is a matter of choice or policy for Governments, it is a human right. The right to shelter of a standard which enhances one's dignity and one's family is not something people can have taken from them by the pressures of financial constraints. We are running into an extremely serious social crisis, the housing crisis, which will have a spill-over into a mushrooming of homelessness and result in the collapse at a frightful rate of family structures because a family without a home will have great difficulty in surviving. The particular flat complex in Cork city is perhaps an extreme example of what happens when good quality housing is not provided. The situation will not improve or go away and families will live in those flats until Cork Corporation are given funds specifically tailored to enable them to dispose of that property and allow the tenants to move out into decent accommodation.

Whether the flats should be demolished or used for community purposes, business purposes or for something else is a separate matter. What is quite clear is that they are not suitable local authority housing for families with small children. People have fallen from the balconies of the flats and have been killed or injured. I appeal to the Minister, in his early days as Minister with the interests of his own constituency at heart, to act on this matter, to bring it to the attention of the Government and to have the funds made available.

I would like to thank Senator Ryan for raising this matter on the Adjournment. It gives me an opportunity to respond.

I am very much aware of the problem as I live a short distance from the area. Long before I became involved in public life I thought the planning of that area was regrettable and the decision to locate the flats complex in that area was a disservice to the people of Blackpool and Cork generally, because this is a very historic part of our city.

There is no doubt there is a problem here but, unfortunately, it is only part of a wider problem we have in Cork. I refer to the unsuitable houses built in the early sixties and seventies and the legacy left to people like myself who are endeavouring to try to come to grips with the problem to create a better environment and living conditions for the many people who live in our city.

We have spent £18 million in refurbishing the custom-built houses, or the system built houses as they were then called. Certainly the flats now provide very unsuitable accommodation and this has caused a great drain on the resources that have been allocated to housing. We have certainly suffered as a result of not being able to build as many new houses as we would have liked in Cork. Bricking up is very successful and people are continually urging that it be accelerated. The Senator will also be aware of places like Madden's Buildings and Horgan's Buildings that up until recently had outdoor bathrooms and toilets and this is totally unsuitable today. Everybody in Cork with an interest in this issue has stressed that it unsuitable and unsatisfactory. I accept that and agree with them.

When I became Minister I was very conscious of the large numbers of vacant properties we could not allocate to people. Specifically, I am referring to Baker's Road, Mayfield and Mount Erne which the Senator referred to. Our first priority, in consultation with Cork Corporation, was to quickly refurbish those properties and increase the amount of suitable accommodation that could be allocated to people. I am specifically referring to some of the people in the flats in Blackpool who would be entitled to an offer of alternative accommodation after a certain period of time. In Baker's Road there are 15 flats. They are unsightly and are on the main road from the Orthopaedic Hospital to Blackpool. On Old Youghal Road there are the Mount Erne flats. The decision was taken in March to give permission to refurbish 36 of the flats in Mayfield and, at the same time, six new houses were to be built in that complex to improve the environment. That scheme submitted by the city architect to the Department was a very attractive one and I believe it will go some way towards tackling the problem of the very large numbers of vacant properties in those areas.

As a member of Cork Corporation, it would be my view that eventually demolition of these flat complexes and the Blackpool flats would be the ideal solution and I stated this to the local people when I met them. However, I indicated it is not going to happen today or tomorrow. In the meantime there is an immediate problem. The general environment of the area must be improved. I have taken the matter up with the city manager and there have been consultations with my own Department and officials to see what can be done. The allocations for housing this year have been given to the local authorities and there is very little we can do in the short term. Having said that we will consider in conjunction with the corporation, what action can be taken to improve the general environment.

I note the point in relation to the work in the scrap metal business that is being carried on late at night. Something could be done in that area. It was always intended that these people would be moving out of the flats to more suitable locations, but that has not happened. I also believe that much could be done locally, that the corporation have a responsibility in relation to the immediate area to assist the people in every way possible. I assure the Senator I will endeavour to assist in every way to improve the environment as quickly as possible for the people in the locality, even though we do not have the funds this year.

The Seanad adjourned at 5 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 20 May 1992.

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