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Seanad Éireann debate -
Friday, 3 Jul 1992

Vol. 133 No. 13

Adjournment Matter. - Dublin City School Staffing.

I welcome the Minister. What we are debating on the Adjournment is the case for sufficient and adequate remedial teaching in St. Paul's primary school in North Brunswick Street, the old school around the corner. Specifically what I am looking for today is a remedial teacher for the school.

The school is in the inner city and has a very large number of pupils in need of remedial attention. If we leave out sixth class, there are 240 pupils in the school and 109 need remedial attention in English. In relation to mathematics, 92 pupils are in need of remedial teaching. We are talking about roughly 50 per cent of pupils being in need of remedial attention for English and 40 per cent for mathematics. That is a substantial level of disadvantage that needs attention.

In the city of Dublin, there are about 415 primary schools and 330 of them have sanction for remedial teachers. They have sanction for remedial teachers in very affluent areas but here we have an inner city school and we do not have a remedial teacher in the area, despite the commitments to address deprivation and the social responsibilities of the Government and the social partners under the Programme for Economic and Social Progress.

The other primary schools in the area — Stanhope Street, St. Gabriel's in Cowper Street or George's Hill — have remedial teachers and have had them for ten years. It is North Brunswick Street school that is the exception. In North Brunswick Street school we are talking about second to sixth year at the junior level. Pupils from the junior schools I have mentioned, Stanhope Street, George's Hill, St. Gabriel's or St. Paul's receive remedial attention but they come into the higher primary level where there is no remedial teaching. In secondary level, generally in St. Paul's, there is remedial teaching but for four or five years youngsters are left in limbo without the benefit of trained remedial teachers to address their problems. That is very serious.

It might not be so bad if the school were located in an affluent area, if the numbers requiring remedial teaching were not so high, and if there were sufficiently small classes. However, we have a major problem dealing with the educational needs of the community in this area and the staff efforts are severely curtailed by the absence of a trained remedial teacher. If an allocation were granted one of the existing teachers — there is a concessionary post filled by a teacher at present — could be seconded to St. Patrick's College, Drumcondra, do the training course and then return to the school as a trained remedial teacher. Once there is sanction for a remedial teacher, the school will be entitled to the special equipment which is not available to the school at present. This means the school suffers on two fronts.

I ask the Minister to consider the needs of the children in the area. The youngsters come from a difficult background and need the maximum support to break out of the cycle of poverty and deprivation that surrounds the entire area on the north side of Dublin. We should ensure that the maximum support is given by the Department of Education and no stone should be left unturned to give these children the best education possible. That is not happening at present and until we recognise that there is a need for remedial teachers, we are seriously neglecting these children who are not being given the best opportunity to prepare for the future.

I am responding on behalf of the Minister of State, Deputy Aylward, who is unavoidably absent on official business.

I thank Senator Costello for raising this issue on the Adjournment. I am aware of his concern in relation to education generally but particularly in so far as it applies to the disadvantaged area of the inner city. I come from an urban constituency where there are huge areas of great need and disadvantage and I am aware of the need to ensure that children receive a comprehensive education from an early age particularly if they come from disadvantaged backgrounds. I believe this is the most effective way of dealing with the inequality that exist in society.

Generally speaking, the provision of remedial education at primary school level is a matter in the first instance for ordinary class teachers and the majority of pupils' remedial needs are dealt with in the normal classroom situation. Obviously, it is acknowledged that there is need for additional resources to deal with under-achievers. There are 945 remedial teachers. As Senator Costello said in the Programme for Social and Economic Progress it was agreed to allocate a further 80 teachers for remedial education, that is, to create a further 80 posts.

As I understand it, the inspectorate division of the primary branch of the Department of Education carried out an extensive survey and those posts have been allocated on the basis of need and priority. Eighteen of the posts have gone to the Dublin area. There are 413 schools in the Dublin area and 336 have remedial teachers either on a full-time or part-time basis, all but 77 schools. I understand that not all schools have sought a remedial teacher.

Nationally we have 3,235 schools, and 1,400 have a remedial teacher. That is a high proportion although, obviously, we have to go further as resources permit. I understand that in the context of concessionary teachers allocated for disadvantaged areas, this school received two concessionary teachers and it is a matter for the school to decide how to allocate them. They could have chosen to allocate one of them as a full-time remedial teacher. I am told by the Department that they will keep the situation in relation to the school under review and it will be considered in the future in the context of additional posts. Unfortunately, as of now, all 80 posts have been allocated, 18 of them in the Dublin area.

In all, 242 schools have benefited from those 80 posts; obviously a number of schools are sharing. Smaller schools would share a remedial teacher. All schools with 420 pupils or above have a remedial teacher. In my constituency the smaller schools that are in close proximity to each other find the shared arrangement very attractive.

I know when Senators raise matters on the Adjournment, particularly constituency matters, they like to get good news and I am sorry the news is not what Senator Costello might have wished. I will ensure that the views he has expressed, the special plea he has made and the circumstances he has outlined in relation to Brunswick Street school, will be brought to the attention of the Minister for Education and the Minister of State. I regret that the Minister of State was unable to be here and I hope that my response on his behalf, although it might not satisfy the Senator, at least will be accepted.

This is the only school in the area without a remedial teacher. While the school was given two concessionary teachers, neither is trained in remedial work. One of the concessionary teachers is acting as a remedial teacher but is not trained. The school authorities would like the Department to sanction one of these teachers to do the training course and return to the school to work as a remedial teacher. Then they would be able to benefit from grants to provide remedial equipment. That is the anomaly in the system at present.

The Seanad adjourned at 1.30 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 7 July 1992.

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