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Seanad Éireann debate -
Friday, 30 Oct 1992

Vol. 134 No. 8

Adjournment Matter. - County Wicklow Transport Service.

I wish to draw the attention of the Minister to the reply the Minister for Tourism and Transport gave in the Dáil to a question in 1990 when he said:

I am pleased to confirm that I recently gave approval for investment by CIE of £18 million in new railcars. This investment will enable Iarnród Éireann to improve the range of its suburban commuter rail services in the Dublin and Cork areas and will also facilitate improvements in due course in the Bray-Greystones service.

I want to know if that commitment is still valid, if the Government are committed to an improvement in the Bray and particularly the Greystones service and when the Minister foresees such an improvement? That was a firm commitment given to a member of another party in the Dáil two years ago. There have been no signs that that £18 million commitment has been followed through by the present Administration.

It is appropriate that we are discussing this matter on the Adjournment today, the day after the Dublin Transport Initiative reported. I do not mind whether Greystones is provided with a shuttle or a DART service, but what it needs is a good, modern, up-to-date transport service. What it also needs is speedy action now. The Dublin Transport Initiative recommended quite specifically in the report which was issued yesterday that the DART should be extended to Greystones for good infrastructural reasons. It recommended that this should be done by EC funds. That is a recommendation which, presumably, the Government will take note of and I hope act upon.

What worries me more than anything else is the speed of the action following this report. Obviously, this report which is simply a preliminary recommendation has to go to a steering committee, which has to get Government approval and then the approval of the EC. What we are, unfortunately, talking about is an arduous process which will take far longer than the delay we have already had to put up with in Greystones, where the people have really got a very raw deal on the transport issue.

Greystones has been totally neglected with regard to transport. I raised this matter a year ago in this House and failed to get a commitment. In Greystones there have been public meetings and public marches to Leinster House on the matter. There have been meetings on the issue with the Minister for Tourism, Transport and Communications, Deputy Geoghegan-Quinn, with spokespeople of all parties and with various other bodies, including Iarnród Éireann.

The pressure is building up. Greystones is a town with a population of 11,000, and a projected population of at least 20,000. The county council is preparing an infrastructure which will facilitate at least 20,000 people, but there appear to be absolutely no transport plans to facilitate these 20,000 or even the 11,000 who are there now. Plans must be made and commitments must be given because the service at the moment is inadequate. The town is growing; it is a commuter town where the majority of the working population travel to and from Dublin every day.

One of the great tragedies of which the Minister will undoubtedly be aware was that the shuttle service, which worked very well for many people in Greystones was withdrawn in November 1990 on what was described by the Minister as a temporary basis. We know that the word "temporary" is very flexible in Government parlance, in terms of its partners, financial commitments and financial projections. A "temporary basis" appears to have extended over two years with no clarification of what that "temporary basis" is. There is, as undoubtedly the Minister knows, a bus service to Greystones but it too is inadequate. In the mornings, people have to wait 40 to 50 minutes for buses which regularly break down on the hill between Greystones and Bray; the buses are overcrowded and pass many would-be passengers on the road between 8 a.m. and 9 a.m. That is the extent and the depth of the problem.

The Arklow to Dublin train stops at Greystones at 7.50 a.m. It is very overcrowded and extraordinarily uncomfortable for the commuters — people leave their cars in Bray and catch the DART rather than travel on the existing transport which is extremely uncomfortable and unreliable. That is the only train provided during the morning rush and there is only one train going to Greystones during the evening rush.

Greystones is discriminated again in comparison with towns like Maynooth on the other side of Dublin.

Let me give an example of how completely inadequate the service is and the farcical level to which the neglect of Greystones has sunk. The train from Greystones to Dublin now takes 53 minutes, at that time of day. In 1955, a train, on the same journey, took 35 minutes. With modern technology and speed, with advances in transportation, the train from this town, which is close to Dublin, is taking 20 minutes longer.

The service is totally in adequate, the cost of either restoring a shuttle, which is my personal preference, or introducing the DART, would be £5 million to £6 million. However, I see no movement on behalf of the Government on this issue despite the fact that an independent body has recommended that it is absolutely essential.

The result of the lobbying of the political parties by the people of Greystones resulted in an examination of this issue by the Transport spokesman of the Fine Gael Party at the time, Deputy Yates, who have given a firm and unequivocal commitment that Fine Gael in a future Administration will restore the shuttle to Greystones even if the funds are not there to introduce the DART.

I would like the Minister today to give me an assurance that he recognises the seriousness of this problem, and how Greystones is discriminated against; that he will fulfil the commitment given in the Dáil in 1990 and insist that Iarnród Éireann provide railcars with the £18 million, or he will give a solemn commitment that the recommendations of the DTI in regard to Greystones, which involve introducing adequate transport facilities to solve the problem, will be acted upon immediately.

At present Iarnród Éireann provide outer suburban rail services through Greystones as part of the Greater Dublin rail network. Greystones is also served via the mainline rail service between Rosslare Harbour and Connolly Station, which serves Greystones three times daily. In addition, shuttle bus services, provided by Dublin Bus, operate between Bray and Greystones to link rail commuters into the DART network.

In relation to the future development of rail commuter services, Iarnród Éireann has placed a contract for 17 new railcars to be operated on the commuter network. The new equipment is expected to be delivered early in 1994 and brought into operational service shortly thereafter. The new railcars will allow the company to significantly upgrade the quality of rolling stock on the commuter rail network. While the company has not yet made any decisions as to the particular routes on which this new rolling stock will be deployed, the chairman of CIE has assured me that representations on behalf of the Greystones residents will be fully taken into account when this matter is being considered.

Furthermore, my colleague, the Minister for Tourism, Transport and Communications, Deputy Geoghegan-Quinn, met a deputation from Greystones Rail Action Committee earlier this year to hear at first hand their views on the need for improved public transport services in the area. During the meeting, the Minister indicated that a detailed submission which had been prepared by the group on the public transport problems of Greystones had been forwarded to the Dublin Transportation Initiative (DTI) for consideration by the consultants Steer Davies Gleave. Phase 2 of the DTI is now almost completed and I am pleased to say that in the draft interim report which has been circulated to the DTI Steering Committee, the local authority committee and the consultative panel for consideration, the extension of DART to Greystones is envisaged.

The DTI report will, of course, form an integral part of the input into negotiations on EC Structural Funds for the period after 1993. The draft report provides an integrated transportation strategy involving significant roads development, major public transport investments and the introduction of strengthened traffic management measures. On the public transport side, the draft report contains radical proposals for enhanced commuter transport services, including bus and light rail options, extended DART and upgraded rail commuter services to resolve the traffic congestion problems of the greater Dublin area, including Greystones.

However, I must again emphasise that having regard to the state of the public finances, the availability of EC funding will be crucially important to the early implementation of the main recommendations of the DTI. In this context, the Minister for Tourism, Transport and Communications has already indicated, on several occasions, that she intends to vigorously pursue the possibilities of EC funding for this purpose and, of course, I will be co-ordinating with her in the months ahead to maximise the level of EC funding for this purpose.

I would like to point out that Exchequer support for public transport as a whole has been very significant over the years. For example, since 1980, total direct Exchequer support for the provision of essential public transport services has amounted to over £1.2 billion. In the case of Bus Átha Cliath, the recently published CIE Annual Report for 1991 shows that the company made a surplus of £4.689 million after payment of a State grant of £14.215 million. The allocation of the overall Exchequer subvention between the operating subsidiaries of the group is a matter for the board of CIE.

Bus Átha Cliath is very conscious of the need to improve the quality and range of its services. At present, the company is engaged in a major review of its network with a view to further improving its services to its customers. In addition, improved training for staff in customer relations and better enforcement of bus by-laws is helping to further improve the attractiveness of its services.

In the case of Greystones, Bus Átha Cliath is satisfied that the range of its existing services operated by the company on routes 84, 84A and 85 are adequate to cater for the current levels of demand in the area. The routing of services and the type of buses used on particular routes are, of course, matters arising within the day to day administration of the company.

Finally, the Minister for Tourism, Transport and Communications is at present reviewing proposals for new legislation to facilitate greter competition in the provision of bus services generally. One of the main objectives of the proposed legislation to liberalise the bus industry will be to improve the levels and quality of bus services available to the general public, including local services in areas such as Greystones, and to introduce competition into the bus industry on a sensible and orderly basis. The issues involved are complex and liaison arrangements between her Department and the various interested parties have been put in place to elicit the widest range of views in relation to the future development of competition within the industry. It is expected that this review will be completed shortly.

The Minister's reply was very constructive and as far as he could go at the moment. I would like to ask that the Greystones area be given as a high priority as possible when the funds are available for distribution for the improvement of the greater Dublin transport system.

I have already outlined the position. Senator Ross can be assured that every effort will be made by the Minister to improve these services. As he knows, the DTI is a new way of trying to link all of the interests together. There is more emphasis on public transport, greater consultation with the public and some drastic changes in our own attitudes to the way we use motor cars. However, I take the point that there are problems. If the Fine Gael front bench are getting into the league of making promises at this early stage, from a number of the papers I have read by the Senator with regard to economics and public expenditure, I should not go down exactly the same road.

The Seanad adjourned at 4.35 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Wednesday, 4 November 1992.

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