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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 26 Jan 1995

Vol. 141 No. 14

Adjournment Matters. - Military Ombudsman.

I thank you, a Chathaoirligh, for giving me the opportunity to make the case for the need for a military ombudsman and I thank the Minister for being here.

Soldiers are, or should be, citizens in uniform yet they are specifically excluded from much legislation and thus, in many instances, from the rights of their fellow citizens. It is felt by many serving in the Army that the military grievance procedure under existing Defence Force regulations is inadequate to their needs. It is surely ironic that those whose duty it is to protect the rights of the rest may in many circumstances find themselves excluded from those rights. In particular, their treatment all too often depends on their status within the Defence Forces, on whether they are enlisted personnel or officers.

I am, of course, aware of the concerns among the military that civilians are unacquainted with military procedure and may not be familiar with military administration, order and discipline. At various times when the issue of a military ombudsman has been raised these concerns have been advanced. I wish to assure the House that I appreciate the security implications of this question. Despite these considerations neither our security nor military discipline would be compromised by the appointment of a military ombudsman or by extending the remit of the civilian Ombudsman to deal with military affairs.

The crux of the matter is that soldiers, ex-soldiers and their next of kin should have unbureaucratic recourse to an authority who would be empowered to deal with cases submitted by individuals or their next of kin, and who would act as an adviser to all who are undertaking military service on questions relating to that service, or to deal with cases submitted by ex-members of the Defence Forces arising from their service or submitted by their next of kin. At present, the sheer bureaucracy of the military complaints procedure is itself a deterrent to would be complainants. There are ample international precedents for such an appointment: the Soldiers Complaints Commissioner in Israel, the Norwegian Ombudsman for the Armed Forces, the Parliamentary Defence Commissioner in Germany and others as well.

There are a number of options open to the Government in seeking to address this matter. It can provide for a ministry ombudsman, it can simply widen the civilian Ombudsman remit or can create a separate military section under the Civil Ombudsman's Act. I hope the Minister for Defence will give favourable consideration to this matter.

I welcome the opportunity to address the House this evening on the subject raised by Senator Sherlock as it provides me with an opportunity to set the record straight in relation to this issue.

There are statutory arrangements in place under the Defence Act, 1954, for any member of the Defence Forces who feel themselves wronged in any matter by their superiors in the military chain of command. They may submit the complaint to a higher authority within the military chain of command and if they do not receive satisfaction may require that the matter be reported to the Minister, who shall inquire into the complaint and give his directions thereon.

A subcommittee of the Permanent Defence Forces Conciliation Council has been established, following discussions with both PDFORRA and RACO, to examine ways in which the existing grievance procedures can be improved. In relation to the discussions with PDFORRA, there has been a full examination of all the issues involved, including the exchange of position papers and a draft scheme. Under the terms of the conciliation and arbitration scheme agreed with both PDF representative associations, such discussions are confidential and it would be inappropriate therefore to go into the detailed deliberations of the subcommittee.

What the Department is trying to do through the conciliation council subcommittee is to reform the existing grievance procedure by the introduction of a form of third party investigation into the procedure to assist in the review of any grievance brought to attention at ministerial level. Certain proposals have been put forward in that respect. As well as providing an independent investigation of complaints, it is intended that the investigating arrangements be improved in several other important areas. The time frame will be improved and the process itself will be more open. The latter point is important because in my view it is imperative that the complainants be fully informed of the reasons for the decision in their case.

It is necessary that we first get the internal complaints procedures reformed and then see the extent to which such reform addresses any perceived dissatisfaction with the existing system. If such reform does not meet the requirements of any future situation. the question of appointing an Ombudsman to the Defence Forces will be addressed.

As I have said, the question of reforming the existing redress of wrongs system is currently under active consideration at a subcommittee of the conciliation council. This is the proper forum for PDFORRA to argue its case in. I believe it should have found, and will find, the Department generally receptive to its proposals. There is a sophisticated statutory mechanism at the disposal of PDFORRA for dealing with a very wide range of issues. Matters coming within the scope of representation should only be resolved within the scheme.

Do you wish to make a quick comment, Senator.

I have a very brief comment. It is obvious that the case being made is based on the fact that the present system is not working in the interests of the members of the Defence Forces. That is why the Minister did not rule out the possibility of the appointment in the event of it being passed.

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