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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 26 Apr 1995

Vol. 143 No. 1

Mental Handicap: Motion.

I move:

That Seanad Éireann notes the importance which has been attached by the Government to the need to improve services for people with a mental handicap, with a view to ensuring that they are enabled to reach the maximum of their potential and to live full and independent lives; commends the Government for its commitment of additional resources towards this end; and calls for the establishment of a statutory charter of rights for people with a mental handicap.

I welcome Deputy O'Shea to the House in his capacity as Minister of State at the Department of Health with responsibility for mental handicap.

We welcome the opportunity to debate this motion this evening. The importance we give to people who are in a weak situation in society, such as those with a mental handicap, and the amount of resources we put towards their care and rights is an indication of the kind of society we are. It is extremely important that we place the proper emphasis on the rights of people with a mental handicap. Indeed, the Labour Party has been promoting their rights for a number of years. In both this and the last Government, we have given them a great deal of funding.

A report which came from the Review Group on Mental Handicap Services in 1990, called Needs and Abilities, identified the need to put significant amounts of public funding into additional services for people with a mental handicap. It contained much research and statistical information, and on that basis a commitment was made to increase the funding for those with a mental handicap. However, only an extra £2 million was available in 1990 and an extra £1 million in 1991. From 1992 onwards, the figures were increased substantially, to an extra £6 million in 1992, an extra £8.5 million in 1993, an extra £12.5 million in 1994 and there was an increase of £12 million in the allocation of funding for this year. This additional injection of funding has enabled a significant number of additional residential and day care places to be provided, as well as services within the community, respite for carers and other support services that were identified in that document.

Unfortunately, that document is not up to date in terms of the number of people who need the services. Therefore, I welcome the commitment in the health strategy document from the Department of Health towards setting up a database. Unless there is a database from which we can get accurate information about the number of people who actually need services and the type of services needed, there will always be more of a need in the community than there are services to provide. I very much support the setting up of a database. While the funding that was promised in relation to the Needs and Abilities document has been allocated, in recent years, there is still a sizeable number of people waiting for a service. I welcome the fact that the Minister has indicated that he intends to eliminate those waiting lists and that people would have their needs catered for and enjoy the maximum quality of life.

A number of people have been identifying the problem. There is a strong lobby group in my area called the Limerick Parents and Friends of the Mentally Handicapped Association. It has been lobbying consistently for extra funding in this area. I would like to pay tribute to the amount of pressure it has been generating but there are still a sizeable number of people in the community who need services.

There is also an indication of capital injection of funds — this money is coming from European Regional Development Fund funding — with local matching funds. It is the first time in the present structure of funding that this money has been put into training programmes that include both the mentally and physically handicapped. There is a commitment from 1994 to 1999 of £33.58 million in capital funding for the setting up of new training services and the updating of existing training services and I welcome that as well. The health boards have also been asked to draw up a four year capital funding programme for this money and that is an indication of the commitment to providing the kind of services that are needed. This special training is very significant for people with a mental handicap, as anybody would know from their personal experience of training programmes.

Other areas of special need, such as helping people with autism and those with particularly disturbed behaviour, have been identified and I welcome the fact that there is also an indication of commitment to those people.

The second part of the motion refers to a statutory charter of rights for people with a mental handicap. There is already a strong commitment to legislation which is being drafted in the Department of Equality and Law Reform. The Equal Status Bill and the Employment Equality Bill have both got a great deal of safeguards in them for people with a mental handicap, including rights to transportation, education, housing and so on that would be suitable for people with a disability, whether it be a mental or a physical one. There is a commitment from the Department of Equality and Law Reform that in addition to the safeguards in these two forthcoming pieces of legislation, additional statutory support may also be needed for people with disabilities and, if necessary, a Disabilities Bill would be introduced to cover other areas that would not be covered under the other two Bills. I welcome the fact that there is that commitment to provide the kind of statutory legislative framework that is needed to guarantee people's rights.

The concept of a charter is already in existence as far as health is concerned, but putting these rights into legislation may be more important than having a general charter. There is also a Commission for the Status of People with Disabilities, which is expected to report at the end of 1995. It is looking at how a charter of rights could be drawn up, so we expect to have some results in that area as well. A council for the status of people with disabilities will also be set up. That will also give the kind of focus and attention that is needed and the kind of concentration from people who know the problems and are aware of the various areas which need to be addressed in relation to people with physical and mental disabilities.

I pay tribute to those who provide the services. In my area the Daughters of Charity and the Brothers of Charity provide that service and there are similar service providers throughout the country. Anybody who has come in contact with these bodies must pay tribute to the dedication and quality of service which they and those working in the area of mental handicap give. As legislators and as members of Government parties, we must ensure the requisite funding is provided and that the financial and legislative support needed is given so as to ensure that service providers can get on with the job and plan for the future in co-operation with health boards.

The fact that we will, I hope, have a database and up to date information on needs will enable us to provide for the future needs of people with mental handicap in a properly organised way. We have come a long way in the past few years in that both this and the previous Government have provided the necessary funding. It has not always been easy because money has had to be made available out of existing resources. The fact that so much has been made available is an indication of the commitment to those with mental disabilities or handicaps and to carers, because they are in a difficult situation and need all the help they can get and it is up to us to provide it. I have pleasure in proposing this motion and I commend it to the House.

I second the motion. I welcome the Minister to the House and thank him for his work on behalf of the mentally handicapped and those involved in their care and maintenance. I acknowledge the importance which the Government has attached to improving the level of services available to people with mental handicaps and their carers.

I would like to comment on one aspect of the services — the provision of support to families caring at home for a son or daughter or brother or sister with a mental handicap. It would be the wish of most families that their son or daughter with a mental handicap would remain at home for as long possible. To do so, they need access to appropriate support services. In particular, families need access to respite care on a planned basis and assistance from the home support services, either on an occasional or in some cases on an ongoing basis, to alleviate the heavy physical and mental burden which caring for a family member with mental handicap places on them. The value of respite care has been overwhelmingly demonstrated in recent years in supporting families who want to care for their son or daughter but who find the burden of caring without a break too much.

The home support services are an important addition to the range of support services available to the families of people with mental handicap. This service aims to provide greater support to families in a number of different ways, depending on the individual needs of the family. The service works in a flexible way and is specifically targeted at those who have no service or an inadequate one. Agencies use the resources made available to them in many ways — for example, providing assistance at specific times of the day in a clients home, taking clients to leisure centres or allowing carers to take time off. I understand the feedback from service providers and client families has been very positive.

The home support services have taken some of the pressure off families and service providers. While home support is not the full answer to a client's needs, it has an important role to play in providing relief to families. These services, taken in conjunction with the ongoing development of additional day care facilities, will greatly assist those involved in the care of persons with mental handicap in their homes.

When account is taken of the ongoing development of services, the proposed implementation of the recommendations of the Commission on the Status of People with Disabilities and the enactment of the new legislation to prohibit discrimination against people with mental handicap and those with disabilities, the situation looks positive. I strongly commend this motion to the House.

I welcome the Minister to the House. I am amused by this motion in the name of Labour Party Senators because I do not know its intention. I do not see any Government cohesion in this. It seems to be a patting on the back exercise by the Labour Party and an attempt to upstage its main partners in Government. That is my reading of it, but perhaps they have their own interpretation or reasons for it.

That is not a correct reading of it.

An attempt has been made to take the credit for what happened in the past, which is, to some extent, misguided. We must be realistic about these matters. Renewed support and increased allocation for mentally handicap services began in 1991 and 1992. The major increases in 1992, 1993 and 1994 of £6 million, £8.5 million and £12.5 million were provided by a Fianna Fáil Minister for Finance. The co-ordination committees which were set up were given added public responsibility in that parent representatives were appointed by Fianna Fáil in 1991. The home support service was established by Fianna Fáil in 1992. No party has a monopoly on this, although there is an attempt by the Labour Party to claim a monopoly as regards the care of the mentally handicapped, which is not the case.

I pay tribute to carers who have looked after people with mental handicaps over the years and to organisations like the Brothers of Charity, the Sisters of Charity, Western Care and the mentally handicapped associations in the counties, who have done trojan work. Services would not be at the stage they are at today had it not been for them.

We should not believe that we have resolved the support system for those with mental handicaps. There are approximately 25,000 people with mental handicaps in this country, but 3,000 do not have a reasonable service. Rather than patting itself on the back, the Government should provide a proper service for those people who badly need it, who are so vulnerable and dependent on others for maintenance, health care and education and so on.

The Down's Syndrome Association of Ireland has approximately 2,000 members, who are parents and guardians, but the Government does not give it even £1 in support. It has been in existence for many years and its contribution in promoting education, health and opportunity for people with Down's Syndrome or mental handicaps cannot be measured, yet it does not receive any State funding. I call on the Minister to provide funding for this organisation.

I understand a major international conference organised by the Down's Syndrome Association of Ireland will be held in this country this year. It is an ideal opportunity for the Minister and the Government to respond to the positive work done by this association. I call on him tonight to make a reasonable contribution to the Down's Syndrome Association of Ireland which will show the international community that we support and respect organisations which provide a service for an underprivileged section of our society.

There are approximately 25,000 people with mental handicaps in this country and this can be broken down into three categories. The first relates to those who are still resident in psychiatric hospitals. It is disgraceful that so many mentally handicapped people are resident in psychiatric hospitals and institutions, which were not built for them, because they have nowhere else to go. Last year there were approximately 800 people in that category. This should be addressed immediately by the Minister because it is inappropriate that people who have a mental handicap should be incarcerated in psychiatric hospitals. The number in such hospitals was greater in the past. I compliment and thank the psychiatric nurses who looked after the mentally handicapped. It was not their wish to do so, but that service was imposed upon them by successive Governments. It was inappropriate then and it should be addressed now. Mentally handicapped people in psychiatric hospitals should be given alternative accommodation and the opportunity to avail of employment and training.

The second category relates to mentally handicapped people who live with elderly parents. Elderly parents are worried about what will happen to their mentally handicapped son or daughter when they pass away. This matter must also be addressed by the Minister. I am not sure of the exact number of people in this category, but it is approximately 1,500. The provision of 60 or 70 residential places on an annual basis will not address this problem; it will only tinker with the system. We need a comprehensive programme of residential care to help such people.

The Senator has one minute left.

How long did I have to speak?

Acting Chairman

Eight minutes.

I did not know the time was so short. It is difficult to make a contribution on a serious matter in that time.

Acting Chairman

Senator Wall did not avail of his eight minutes, so I will allow the Senator some latitude.

The third category relates to people who need training and day care facilities. This situation is being addressed to some extent, but we need more places. We must develop services which answer the needs and promote the abilities of mentally handicapped people. This must be our goal. I ask the Minister to take that into consideration.

Many parts of this country still do not have respite facilities for parents who wish to avail of them during a family crisis or holiday period. Some months ago I was at a meeting in Ballinasloe for parents in such situations and 300 people attended. At that time there were no respite beds available in the Ballinasloe catchment area. The Brothers of Charity and the Mentally Handicapped Association in County Roscommon have applied for full-time residential beds. I ask the Minister to respond to this request. Funding is available for staff to look after these people, but there are no beds. The County Roscommon Mentally Handicapped Association was set up in 1966 and its first collection amounted to ten shillings. Up to the end of 1994 it had collected £1 million in voluntary contributions. This is the type of contribution we are talking about from voluntary organisations throughout the country.

The Minister has a responsibility in this area. I am glad to have the opportunity to speak on this matter, although we need more time. There is a lot of work to be done; it is not time to pat people on the back. While I do not support the motion, I will not vote against it. The Labour Party has tabled it for its own reasons. The Minister must provide a proper service, backup and training for people with mental handicaps.

Is it in order for someone to propose from the floor that the speaker be given a few minutes latitude because I could listen a lot longer to what Senator Finneran is saying? I am not saying that from a party political point of view.

Acting Chairman

The Chairman decides that.

I did not intend to speak, but I am prepared to share the time, which I did not intend to take, with Senator Finneran if he is allowed to continue.

Acting Chairman

The times are agreed by the Committee on Procedure and Privileges.

I will not press the issue, but if it is possible to give him a few more minutes, I would appreciate it.

Acting Chairman

The House may wish and agree to change those times. I took the liberty of giving Senator Finneran more time because Senator Wall did not avail of his time.

I appreciate that, but I was learning a lot from Senator Finneran and I am not interested in the party political aspect of the issue. I thought it would have been possible to give Senator Finneran a few more minutes, but he sat down, so perhaps the momentum has gone.

Acting Chairman

We were generous.

We do not object if Senator Finneran wants to speak for a few more minutes.

Acting Chairman

We must move to another speaker.

I commend the Government and all previous Governments for their commitment to the development of services for the mentally handicapped. Services for the mentally handicapped and medical services generally should be above politics; they should embrace all political parties.

We all support the view that health services should be improved. The provision of an additional £12.5 million in 1994 and a further £12 million in 1995 has enabled the health boards and other service providers to respond to the needs of people with mental handicaps and their families. The provision of capital funding for the development of training facilities and the changes which have taken place in training programmes under the Operational Programme for Human Resources Development, 1994-99, have also assisted greatly in providing training opportunities for young adults with mental handicaps. These services are provided mainly under the following headings: residential and day care places, respite care, home support schemes, services for people with a mental handicap who also have disturbed behaviour, the transfer of persons with a mental handicap in psychiatric hospitals and other inappropriate places and services for persons with autism.

As regards residential and day care places, the Department of Health has made available £32.58 million since 1990 to provide a range of extra services to people with mental handicap.

Nationally, this money has provided 780 new residential places and 1,650 day care places. In 1995, a further £12 million is being invested in mental handicap services. Of this figure, £2 million is being invested in supporting existing services and £10 million in new services — £8 million for services and £2 million for capital. This will provide 189 residential places and 418 day places this year.

Senator Wall dealt with the home support and respite care service. I wish to pay tribute to the parents of mentally handicapped children who keep them at home. It is only right that the State should give them every support it can, allowing them to have a holiday during the year. The value of respite care has been overwhelmingly demonstrated in recent years in supporting families who want to care for their sons or daughters but who find that the burden of caring without a break is too much.

The home support services are an important addition to the range of support services available to families of mentally handicapped people. These services aim to provide greater support to families in a number of different ways depending on the individual needs of families. Since 1990, £3 million has been invested in the home support services.

Senator Finneran mentioned the anxiety felt by elderly parents of mentally handicapped children, but as the number of residential places is being increased, their anxiety should be alleviated.

I have a particular interest in the transfer of mentally handicapped persons from psychiatric hospitals to more appropriate care settings. In the past, many mentally handicapped people were admitted to psychiatric hospitals who would not be admitted to such hospitals today. I am pleased to note that in 1994 a total of £785,000 was provided to facilitate the transfer of over 150 people from psychiatric hospitals to more appropriate accommodation in the mentally handicapped service. Additional funding is also being made in 1995 to continue this programme.

Senator Finneran asked about exact figures and while I do not know the figures for the whole country, I have some figures for the Eastern Health Board area in which he might be interested. Approximately one third of funding for the mentally handicapped services has been allocated to the Eastern Health Board each year. With the help of this funding the Eastern Health Board has made great strides in relocating the mentally handicapped from psychiatric hospitals. For example, the children's unit at St. Loman's Hospital has been closed and replaced with a magnificent new unit at New Town, Maynooth. There are at present only ten mentally handicapped people remaining in St. Brendan's and it is envisaged that they will be placed in a high support hospital this year, a move which will close St. Brendan's as far as the mentally handicapped are concerned.

St. Joseph's mentally handicapped service at St. Ita's, Portrane, has been substantially upgraded. The older units are being closed on a phased basis and alternative community facilities are being provided for those who are suited to such group homes. It is intended to reduce the overall number of residents on the campus to 150. These will be accommodated in bungalow style units and smaller group homes on the campus. Last year 47 people were moved to community facilities and this year it is intended to move another 24. All this was achieved because of the extra funding made available to this project.

The development of the appropriate programmes and the assessment of the needs of mentally handicapped persons still in psychiatric hospitals is ongoing and will lead to a further reduction in the number remaining within psychiatric hospitals in future. This major achievement has led to the improvement of the quality of life of those who have been moved into more appropriate places in the service of people with mental handicap.

This motion calls for the establishment of a statutory charter of rights for people with a mental handicap. In December 1993 the Commission on the Status of People with Disabilities was set up by the Minister for Equality and Law Reform, Deputy Mervyn Taylor. The commission has been given the task of advising the Government on practical measures to ensure that handicapped people can exercise their right to participate to the fullest extent of their potential in economic, social and cultural life. It is also examining the current organisational inadequacy of the existing services, both public and voluntary, to meet the needs of handicapped people. They will make recommendations setting out changes in legislation to ensure that their needs are met in a coherent and comprehensive way. The commission is due to report this year and I hope that, in its considerations, it will take into account a charter of rights for the mentally handicapped as requested in the motion.

I must apologise because I had not intended to speak. I came to listen and learn, which might in itself seem to some colleagues like action verging on the certifiable. However, I have been stimulated to say a few words by the contributions that have been made. I am no authority in the area, so I am subject to correction on almost anything I say. I welcome the increases in expenditure in this area in recent years and, frankly, I am not bothered about which party is mainly responsible. I wish well whichever party contributes towards improving the treatment of the mentally handicapped.

Senator O'Sullivan's tribute to the Daughters of Charity and the Brothers of Charity in her own constituency prompted me to say a few words. I have no doubt that that well deserved tribute could be paid to all carers around the country, as Senator Finneran said. However, it moved me to think that if the Brothers and Sisters of Charity are going the way of most religious, they will be disproportionately elderly themselves by this stage, or going in that direction. That is the way our society is going, so what will happen when those who have given their lives to that type of work are no longer there in such numbers?

Two or three contrary types of movement are happening. As a people we have a bad record in our attitude toward mental illness. I am not saying that as a general indictment because we have a decent record in our attitude to a lot of other handicaps. However, historically, we had a fear of mental illness and we often isolated people who could have benefited from treatment and diagnosis, by simply pushing them away from us. In recent years there has been almost a re-education in our attitude towards the mentally handicapped, which is a great improvement. However, at the same time, the structures of society have been moving in the opposite direction.

While I welcome the proposal for a charter and all the legislation Senator O'Sullivan referred to, both the family and the community — which are the bases on which solidarity with the handicapped was founded — are going through rapid changes. I am not suggesting that all those changes are for the worse; some may well be for the better, but we all know that families are changing at an unprecedented speed. Since the size of families is changing as well as the attitude of children towards their parents and vice versa how long can we continue to rely on the type of caring attitude which has been shown when the structures within which they are operating may well be changing adversely from their point of view? That cannot be legislated for or dealt with overnight, but there is a poignant irony in a situation where we are bringing in a good deal of good and proper legislation at a time when the basic structures and ethos of society would be getting more individualistic in many ways — in many respects that is good.

However, there are downsides to all of these developments. I wonder if in a generation's time the fate of the handicapped, particularly the mentally handicapped, in our society will be better in emotional terms than it is today, despite all the proposed legislative improvements. I suspect the general ethos of society will have as much to do with the life experiences of these people as any legislation. Insofar as we or the Government can do anything to influence it, we should be trying to think along those lines as well as along specific lines.

I agree with what has been said about the dedication of carers and I agree all assistance should be given to them. It is a case of grudging what is, in the context of the country's budget or the budget of the health services, a very small figure.

In terms of attitude it seems that a good deal can be done in the educational system if we think of it as a source for the proper teaching of civics in society. Civics tends to be a rag bag into which everything is packed, but in terms of trying to think of ways in which we can influence behaviour and attitudes in these changing circumstances, it is an area to which some attention might be given.

I welcome the Minister of State to the House and I welcome the continued commitment of the Government to mental handicap. I am in favour of a charter of rights for the handicapped, not just the mentally handicapped but all handicapped people. It is essential that we accord to those with a handicap the same rights and privileges we enjoy. Such a charter will focus the minds not only of the medical profession ordinarily involved in the care of the handicapped, but also of society in general.

Society has a tendency to assume that because there are charitable organisations or other institutions or hospitals, society itself does not have a role to play. Society needs to look at the range of facilities available to see how they can be adapted, enlarged or expanded to allow anybody with a handicap to enjoy the facilities other citizens have. It is only right and fitting that all of our institutions, public or private, be open or accessible to anybody with a handicap.

The recent Labour Party conference was addressed by a brave man who made a passionate plea on behalf of those who are blind. That man is sadly no longer with us; he died in the last few days. Anybody who was there would testify that the conference was spellbound by the passion of his plea for a right of recognition for those without sight. Our sympathy is with his family. While he was alive he was a courageous man who fought for those without sight.

A charter of rights for those with a handicap will focus the minds of all in society, not only the carers. It will make people aware that the services they offer should take account of people with handicaps. That may mean providing better access to public buildings or simplifying procedures people may have to go through, for example, to go to hospital or get a television licence — sometimes the forms are complicated and are so phrased that somebody with only a slight handicap may be put at a disadvantage.

The private sector has a big role to play. It cannot view the provision for the handicapped as the responsibility of the public sector. It must play its part. That may mean a large corporation or industry ensuring that there are posts reserved for handicapped people and the active encouragement of handicapped people to seek these posts. They must be helped in every way. If that means extra training then so be it. The private sector has a role which it must be forced to play. It is too easy for the private sector to think in terms of profit and loss and not consider its social responsibilities. There is often a tendency to leave the responsibility to the public sector carers.

As individual citizens we must also make sure that in every way possible we help and do not hinder those with a handicap, so that what we say and do does not add to their discomfort or handicap. Many commentators mock the idea of politically correct language. Nevertheless, it is important that children and adults remember that it is unchristian to call anybody with a handicap a nasty name that highlights their handicap. We can thus ensure that we and our children are sensitive in the language we use when speaking to and about those with a handicap.

I commend the Minister of State for his hard work. If in years to come he is replaced by another Minister, I hope that Minister will continue the good work. This has not been done over the years and it is high time for us to allocate resources to redress the balance.

I welcome the opportunity to contribute to this motion. I hope it will serve to highlight the ongoing plight of people with mental handicap. There is no doubt that there has been a quantum leap in our attitudes to people with such handicap. Unfortunately, that change in attitude has not been reflected in practice.

I am particularly concerned about the situation of mentally handicapped children. All the available evidence points to the fact that children who have learning difficulties but who attend ordinary schools are far more likely to be integrated into mainstream society following their schooling than children who have been shunted into special schools. For this reason the parents of Down's Syndrome children in particular have campaigned for a system of integrated education where children attend mainstream schools but are supported in them by special teachers. In 1988 the Down's Syndrome Association launched a pilot programme along those lines. This was so successful that it was subsequently taken over by the Department of Education. I would like to see more such programmes and their scope broadened beyond children with Down's Syndrome to include children with other forms of mental handicap.

While integrated education is desirable in many cases, there will always be those children for whom it is inappropriate. In this regard I urge the Minister to provide increased specialised facilities for autistic children. It has been shown that with specialised educational support, autistic children can attain a measure of independence, and as a society we owe it not just to these children but also to their families to provide such services.

The motion refers to the provision of improved services for people with mental handicap. We must also improve the services offered to relatives and carers of people with mental handicap. The provision of adequate respite facilities must be a priority. I look forward to the Government tackling this issue.

The motion also refers to the establishment of a statutory charter of rights for people with mental handicap and such a charter would give people for the first time a legislative framework in which to operate. I did some research into this some years ago. We should draw on the Swedish model. On 1 January 1994 Sweden introduced a bill of rights for people with disabilities, drawing on the recommendations made by the Swedish commission on policies for the disabled. The bill of rights was enacted into law. This provides support and services for people with disabilities, whether mental or physical. In preparing a programme the Minister should look at the Swedish model.

I welcome the Minister. I support the motion and congratulate the Labour Party for bringing it to the House. The mentally handicapped are the most vulnerable people in our society and we have a duty to ensure they are assisted and facilitated in every way. Society, and especially the Government, has a duty to the mentally handicapped to ensure they play as full a role as possible in society, that they reach the maximum of their potential and are facilitated in living their lives as independently as possible.

I support the call to establish a statutory charter of rights for people with mental handicap. Such charters have been a recent and positive development. The handicapped, both mentally and physically, should be the first group for which a charter of rights should be developed.

I welcome the recognition over the past number of years of the importance of improving the situation of the mentally handicapped. We have a very long way to go, but we must recognise that there have been improvements and that considerable funding has been made available over a number of years to assist the mentally handicapped. The Minister must ensure that the momentum for improvement in services to the mentally handicapped is maintained.

I welcome the additional funding of £1.209 million which has been allocated to the mid-west region. This is the highest ever allocation of additional funding to mentally handicapped services in Limerick. To date £0.751 of this money has been paid, which will provide an extra 19 residential places, three respite places, 42 new day care places and 68 extra home supports. I congratulate the Minister of State and the Minister, Deputy Noonan, who is our local TD and of whom we are very proud, for their contribution and their recognition of the needs of the mid-west. However, there is a long way to go and further services will be developed in the region in the immediate future when the balance of £458,000 will come on stream.

It is important that this programme of expansion continues, that the momentum increases and that extra funding each year is provided to improve the services. There is a need to establish as quickly as possible facilities to cater for the immediate requirement of children and adults in the mid-west region.

A report on the mentally handicapped services, which was published in 1992, identified that an investment of £6.295 million was required to meet the priority requirements of handicapped children and adults in the region. It must be stressed that this was to cater for immediate and priority needs. The report recognised that such developments and funding would not be provided over a short term and should be planned for over a period of five years. Additional funding in 1993, 1994 and 1995 will have amounted to £5.769 million, which is almost £6 million. Targets were set and are being achieved. We fully accept that the full requirements are not being met but the targets set in 1992 by the Mid-Western Health Board have been achieved by this and the previous Government.

Like Senator O'Sullivan, I congratulate the service providers in our region of the mid-west. In Limerick city we must recognise the excellent work over many years by Church bodies such as the Sisters of Charity and the Brothers of Charity before we had the benefit of the type of funding which has been provided over the past number of years. We must recognise the work of carers and say we are not at all satisfied with the present position. A great deal needs to be done.

A reply to a question in the Dáil in 1993 stated that there were approximately 25,000 mentally handicapped persons in the population; about 15,400 have a severe or profound degree of mental handicap and require extensive support from the health service and the remaining approximately 10,000 have mild mental handicap and a minority of this group require ongoing support from the health services. It must be recognised that of the 25,000 mentally handicapped people between 15,000 and 16,000 are in need of immediate service.

The Minister at the same time identified that there were 45,000 physically handicapped people requiring services. We have debated, rightly, the mentally handicapped at least three times since I was elected to the Seanad three years ago. However, we have not debated the physically handicapped. That area requires a little more attention than it is has received.

The budget will impact on the physically and mentally handicapped by impacting on the many organisations who collect moneys on a voluntary basis. Voluntary organisations are great contributors to services for the handicapped. They foresee extreme difficulty as a result of the budget provision for special tax relief for contributions to Third World charities; it is welcome that such a relief is available to such charities. We have only to recall what happened in the past week to recognise that. However, there is a belief that there will be a transfer of resources from home based charities to Third World charities because people will find it more attractive and will contribute more to Third World charities. The voluntary organisations at home identified this aspect quite early and are extremely concerned that there will be a considerable reduction in contributions to national charities.

The Finance Bill is before the Dáil at present. It can be amended by the Dáil but the Seanad may only make recommendations. I ask the Minister to look at this issue in the context of the mentally handicapped. There is a welcome increase in funding from this Government and the last Government for this area. However, if there is a severe reduction in money contributed to voluntary organisations it will impact severely on the plans and progress that should be made given the level of funding provided by the Government. I ask the Minister to ask his colleagues to look closely at that issue.

I welcome the Minister's attendance for this important Private Members' motion. I realise the Minister has a keen commitment to this area and to the 25,000 people who suffer from mental handicap. There has been a growing and welcome trend of increased funding for services for the mentally handicapped which, for many years, were provided by the various religious and voluntary organisations. There is a more open approach in the community to bringing people with mental handicap back into the community and to having mentally handicapped adults living as part of the community in our towns and villages. That development is welcome.

I have a little experience of this development. I live in a town near Moore Abbey, a centre in Monasterevin for mentally handicapped. Six houses in our town are inhabited by mentally handicapped adults who were, until recently, residents of Moore Abbey. They live in the town as part of the community. Previously they went daily to Moore Abbey to work. However, a premises was recently acquired in the town to provide training facilities and work opportunities for these adults. That is a welcome development. The same developments are taking place throughout the country. The benefits both to the individuals themselves and to the community are huge.

This Minister's heart is in the right place: his commitment to the mentally handicapped is unquestioned. The policy on mental handicap services is based on the 1990 "Needs and Abilities: A Policy for the Intellectually Disabled" report of the Review Group on Mental Handicap Services. When we last discussed the mentally handicapped in this House we talked about the numbers who were waiting for either residential or day care places. When the needs and abilities report was published it was estimated that about 1,600 people were waiting for services. However, in October last year the figures released stated that 1,200 persons with mental handicap were awaiting residential places and approximately 1,500 were awaiting day care services. Obviously the original estimate of 1,600 was incorrect and the provision of funding that was estimated to be necessary at the time consequently must have been underestimated also.

If, two years after the report was implemented and substantial funding had been allocated the waiting list is greater than was originally estimated, more funding than we had anticipated will be necessary to address the problem and to allay the fears of many people, particularly elderly parents who are concerned about what will happen to their mentally handicapped children after they, the parents, pass on. About £12.5 million was allocated in last year's budget and about £12 million is being allocated this year. There is also capital funding from EU Structural Funds which will amount to about £31 million over five years. However, this funding is for both physically and mentally handicapped. Has the national data base on the needs of persons with mental handicap been established? Has it provided ongoing information of the numbers of persons with mental handicap in each area, the number of people who are awaiting services and the estimate of future needs? The former Minister, Deputy Howlin, said that the data base would be available by the end of the year. Is it now available?

Another question that arose at that time related to the development of plans for services for children with autism. Services for children with autism are available in a crisis. I understand that a commission set up by the Minister made recommendations at the end of last year. What has happened in relation to those recommendations and what progress has been made in establishing centres? One recommendation sought the establishment of centres in Limerick, Galway and various locations throughout the country. Could the Minister give us some information on that this evening?

The charter of rights for people with mental handicap is being examined by the Minister for Equality and Law Reform, Deputy Taylor. The organisations involved with people with mental handicap appear to be satisfied that progress is being made in that area. I am interested in hearing from the Minister if he is satisfied that the charter of rights will be put on a statutory basis in the near future.

I do not intend to criticise the Minister; his heart is in the right place with regard to people with mental handicap. However, the original incorrect estimate of the demand for residential and day care places, for the establishment of centres for children with autism, the improvement of the support services for parents and for families of children with mental handicap and the transfer of people from mental institutions into more appropriate accommodation, must be addressed.

A great deal of money and many changes are required. However, the time has come for us to make a firm commitment that all the difficulties which were outlined in the policy document will be met, as outlined in the health strategy document which was prepared by Deputy Howlin when he was Minister for Health. We all accepted that the aspirations in that document were very laudable but unless the funding is put in place by successive Governments, the changes which we would all like to see will not happen.

The Minister of State has our support in whatever measures he feels need to be taken to deal with the problems in this area. I am particularly interested to hear what he has to say tonight and if he can give us the up to date report on the national data base, the numbers who are currently awaiting residential and day care places and what is happening in relation to children with autism problems.

I thank Senator O'Sullivan, Senator Wall, Senator Kelly and their colleagues for tabling this motion. I also thank all who contributed to what has been a very constructive debate.

I welcome the opportunity provided by this motion to reiterate my commitment and that of the Government to provide, in accordance with the policy agreement A Government of Renewal, the highest possible level of services for persons with a mental handicap. We aim to create an environment in which all persons with a disability, of whatever kind, can freely exercise their full rights as citizens in our society.

Senator Kelly spoke eloquently about the late councillor Michael O'Regan. Michael was blind for a great part of his life. However, this did not prevent him from living a full and active life and participating in a full range of public service positions. In his capacity as chairman and member of Tralee Urban District Council, chairman of the board of management of Tralee regional technical college and Tralee Town vocational education committee, Michael displayed a resilience which is an example to us all. Obviously, Michael had a particular interest in those with a disability and strove throughout his public life to improve services for those less fortunate people.

Indeed, it is both poignant and appropriate to recall that at his last Labour Party national conference a few weeks ago, both the Minister for Equality and Law Reform, Deputy Taylor, and myself were in a position to advise him that, in response to a motion put down by his branch in relation to the rights of the blind community, the equal status Bill, which is to be published this year, and the Disabilities Act, which is to follow the report of the Commission on the Status of People with Disability, will be addressing these issues in a substantive way. Go ndeanna Dia trócaire ar a anam dílis.

Services for people with a mental handicap have changed radically and for the better over the last 20 years. The high standard of service provision which has been achieved is due to the sustained efforts of the voluntary and statutory sectors which have worked over the years to assist clients and their families. They have also worked to educate public opinion regarding the rights of persons with a mental handicap to develop to their full potential and to be integrated fully in their communities.

It is important to point out that we in Ireland have established an international reputation in the field of mental handicap. The role which the voluntary agencies have played in developing services for people with mental handicap is well known. Initially, they received little support from the State for their efforts. Today, however, the State provides almost the entire funding for the services. The voluntary sector continues to play a leading role in pioneering new services and new approaches to service delivery.

Parents and other family members play a vital role in the development of services for persons with mental handicap. It is through their demands for improved services that many of the advances have been made over the years. The Government recognises the importance of their involvement in all aspects of the services.

Since 1993, parent representatives, nominated by the National Association for the Mentally Handicapped of Ireland, are members of each of the regional mental handicap co-ordinating committees. Parents' interests are also represented on these committees through the involvement of the many voluntary parents' and friends' organisations which provide services for persons with mental handicap. In this manner, parents and families are involved in the overall development of services on a regional basis, in addition to their involvement at local level.

Further evidence of the recognition by the Government of the role of NAMHI and the interests which it represents was given in the fact the annual capital grant to NAMHI by my Department was increased by £20,000 in 1995. This will enable NAMHI to employ an additional staff member and improve services to its affiliate members.

As I have already stated, the services which have been developed in this country for people with mental handicap are of a high standard. However, I recognise that we still have much to do if we are to meet fully the needs of all persons with mental handicap who are on a waiting list. It is important to understand the background to the challenges which face us in meeting the needs of people with mental handicap and their families.

The fundamental problem which we face is that the number of people with mental handicap has been growing faster than the capacity of services to meet their needs. The growth in the numbers is a result of increased longevity of people with mental handicap rather than a rise in the incidence of mental handicap. As the life expectancy of people with mental handicap increases, fewer vacancies arise in existing residential and day care facilities.

This factor has led to particular problems in that, in addition to the requirement for new services, existing services have had to change to take account of the needs of the growing number of older persons with mental handicap. The needs of this group mirror those of the elderly in the general population. The incidence of illness, increasing infirmity and the onslaught of senility with its associated problems mean that a much higher level of nursing and medical care is required in the management and care of this group.

As the population of people with mental handicap still being cared for at home grows progressively older, so too do their carers. It is not uncommon to find parents in their seventies caring for a son or daughter in his or her forties. I understand those parents' concerns about the future welfare of their son or daughter. Those parents made great sacrifices to keep their children at home. They need and expect the reassurance that their son or daughter will continue to be cared for when they can no longer look after them.

It is imperative, given the substantial investment in the services, that we ensure that the best use is made of those resources and that new services are provided which meet the needs of clients who require them and are flexible enough to change as those needs change. To do this, we must be aware of the extent and the nature of the challenge which we face. One of the most important and basic factors required is information on the numbers of persons with mental handicap and their current and future needs. To date, this information has not been readily available. The establishment of the national data base on the needs of persons with mental handicap will provide my Department, the health boards and other service providers with accurate information which will assist them to target the resources at the areas of most need.

Since 1990, additional funding amounting to £32.58 million has been made available to develop services to persons with mental handicap. Up to the end of 1994, over 780 new residential and 1,650 new day care places had been provided. The home support services, which were initiated in 1992, have been expanded in subsequent years and are now established as an essential component in the range of services available to support and assist persons with mental handicap and their families.

Assistance has also been given to agencies in recent years to meet identified needs in existing services. These needs include the problems I have already mentioned concerning more elderly clients with greater medical and nursing requirements. Overall expenditure on the services in the period 1990-94 increased from £161 million to £238 million.

The challenge which still faces the Government, service providers and the families of those with mental handicap is to develop services in a way which matches the needs and promotes the abilities and integration of people with mental handicap. The Government has outlined its commitment to the development of services to people with mental handicap in the policy documents A Government of Renewal and the Programme for Competitiveness and Work and also in the health strategy, Shaping a Healthier Future. It is my intention, as Minister of State with special responsibility for services to persons with mental handicap, to translate this commitment into a reality.

Additional funding amounting to £12 million has been made available this year for the further development of services which will become part of the ongoing annual funding of these services; £2 million was used to improve the quality of existing services. £8 million revenue and £2 million capital have been allocated to the health board regions and will be used to provide a broad range of additional services including: 189 additional residential and respite places; 418 additional day care places; further expansion of the home support services; additional funding for the improvement of services for persons with a mental handicap who are also behaviourally disturbed; implementation of my Department's policy document on services for persons with autism; provision of hepatitis B vaccinations for staff working in the mental handicap services and client groups who are considered to be at risk; and continuation of the programme to transfer persons with a mental handicap from psychiatric hospitals and other unsuitable placements to more appropriate care settings, and £600,000 of the £8 million revenue this year has been specifically earmarked for this purpose. Autism was raised by a number of Senators. This year £300,000 has been set aside in what we might call a bid situation where we are asking health boards to come forward with worthwhile proposals in the whole area of the care of those with autism.

Senators will know the policy document was published last autumn and, rather than spread that money thinly, we are seeking innovation and better care. In effect, some areas of the country will present a headline for others to emulate, so I look forward to the responses to that extra money this year. The precise services to be provided in each region will be agreed by the regional mental handicap co-ordinating committees within the guidelines issued by my Department and approved by me.

Under the Operational Programme for Human Resources Development 1994-1999, funding is made available from the European Social Fund (ESF) and the Exchequer for training people with disabilities. A new training programme is being introduced this year. This programme, called the Training Opportunities Programme (TOP), is a prevocational programme with particular emphasis on social rehabilitation of people with significant levels of disability, such as mental handicap and mental illness. In addition, the Government is also providing funding for 600 training places which will cater for around 1000 trainees outside of the training provision in the operational programme. Both of these measures are specifically aimed at providing opportunities for those who are not suited to placement in level 1, 2 or 3 training courses funded from ESF sources.

Capital funding of £4.2 million has been allocated in 1995 for the development of vocational training centres for people with disabilities, including people with mental handicap. The programme is part of the 1994-1999 Human Resources Operational Programme (OP) under the EU Structural Funds, which provides for a total capital allocation of £33.58 million for vocational training centres for the period 1994-1999. European Regional Development Fund (ERDF) funding assistance of £18.2 million is being provided under the OP with the balance being provided by the Exchequer. This is the first time that aid from the European Regional Development Fund had been approved for infrastructural investment in training for people with disabilities. It is a welcome development which will ensure the availability of training centres of the highest quality for people with disabilities.

In 1993, the Minister for Equality and Law Reform, Deputy Mervyn Taylor, established the Commission on the Status of People with Disabilities. The commission is to ensure greater participation by people with disabilities in all aspects of life and to make recommendations setting out necessary changes in legislation, policies, practices and structures to help achieve that objective. The commission has undertaken a comprehensive review of the current situation, including extensive consultations with people with disabilities, their parents and carers as well as other relevant interests. It is currently engaged in specific consultations in the area of mental health. It also established a working group on health with the specific purpose of bringing forward proposals with regard to the health needs of people with disabilities.

The Government will take specific action to end discrimination and to ensure equal opportunity for participation by all citizens in Irish life. In this regard, when the commission has reported, the Government is to introduce a Disabilities Bill to set out rights of persons with a disability, including persons with mental handicap together with means of redress for those whose rights are denied.

As we approach the final years of this century, it is becoming increasingly clear to us all that disability and matters pertaining to it are no longer fringe issues. Thankfully, disability is now very much centre stage, both nationally and internationally.

The establishment of the Commission on the Status of People with Disabilities has given a new impetus to everyone in this country concerned with disability. It is my belief that the work of the commission will turn out to be revolutionary in its impact on the lives of Irish people with disabilities.

The two year period for its deliberation, which the commission was given in December 1993, has just a few months to run. The listening exercises which the commission held throughout the country last year were a great success. The Commission for the Status of People with Disabilities offers us the best hope yet to have the place of our fellow citizens with disabilities acknowledged and to have their needs catered for as a valued and essential part of Irish life. The Government is totally supportive of the commission and the work it is engaged in. When its final report has been made, this Government will take its recommendations on board very seriously and will follow up with whatever actions required.

The Department of Equality and Law Reform's legislative intentions insofar as disabilities are concerned are well known. Late last year it published proposals which will significantly impact on the lives of people with disabilities. In both employment and non-employment areas, the Minister for Equality and Law Reform is bringing forward legislation to extend legal redress against discrimination over a wide range of grounds, including disability. Our intention is that this legislation will make discrimination unlawful in the work place but also in education and in the provision of goods, facilities and services. The legislation will comprise of two Bills: a new Employment Equality Bill, updating the 1977 Act which will deal with discrimination in the workplace and will provide protection for those with disabilities, among a number of other categories; and an innovative and far-reaching Equal Status Bill, which will cover discrimination in non-employment areas. With the enactment of these two pieces of legislation and the publication of the findings of the Commission on the Status of People with Disabilities, the lives of Irish people with disabilities in the 21st century will hopefully be far more diverse and will provide far greater opportunities for pursuing a fuller lifestyle than has been the case in the past.

In implementing the health strategy, the Government is making the clearest statement yet that our health services should first and foremost help those whose health needs are greatest. The health strategy, Shaping a Healthier Future, outlines the way forward for the health services and emphasises three important principles: equity, quality of services and accountability. This last principle, accountability, is especially important in the context of the necessary reorganisation of health structures and the strategy sets out the decisions which the Government has made in relation to structures.

As part of these structural changes the independent identity of voluntary agencies, which play such an important role in the provision of services to persons with mental handicap, will be fully respected and they will benefit from formal agreements with the health authorities which clearly set out their service requirements and the associated funding. This will permit the development of services for persons with a mental handicap to be undertaken in an agreed, organised manner.

Partnerships between the voluntary and statutory sectors must be strengthened, with recognition and respect on both sides for the other's point of view. It is only in this context that we will be able to provide services which are available when required, which meet the needs of the clients who use them and which are flexible enough to change as their needs change.

To conclude, I reiterate this Government's intention to continue the development of services to persons with mental handicap, our commitment to the implementation of the recommendations of the Commission on the Status of People with Disabilities and the enactment of the necessary legislation to ensure all people with disabilities will be enabled to participate and contribute to the communities in which they live.

I will not speak for long because we all want to see the match. I welcome the Minister's commitment to continue to develop the services. He has the power to push the Government to make as much money as possible available to cater for the educationally disadvantaged. I know he will do so. I do not criticise him in any way. I simply ask him to ensure it is done.

Not only this Government but past and probably future Administrations find money when a bank or insurance company collapses or a tribunal is set up. The people we are discussing are those most at need in society. I urge the Minister to continue to do what he is doing and to push for more; if £12 million is required now, he should ask for £200 million. If a bank collapsed in the morning the money would be pulled from the sky, as the Minister knows as well as I do. It would not matter who was in office.

I am delighted to see his commitment to the service because we in Ireland are deeply committed to the educationally disadvantaged. It is so different to the attitude in some of our neighbouring countries, where children who are born handicapped can be allowed to die by being starved for two weeks and given pain killers so they do not scream. At least here we help and support them and allow them a full life. I know many parents of handicapped children who are overcome with love for them.

I welcome the proposed charter for the educationally disadvantaged. When the Minister is drawing it up he should look at a document called Enriching Lives, produced by the Hospital Order of St. John of God, who are pioneers in this field. They have set out a charter for these people, whom they term “educationally disadvantaged”. They avoid the term “mental handicap”. It is sometimes necessary to use that term because it brings the issue home to people, but it has a stigma attached to it. In some of the services where I work we have removed the name “St. John of God” from the gates because the children used to be called “Johnniers”. That is no longer the case because everyone now goes to the schools and we try to integrate the children as much as possible. Some of them are severely handicapped, both physically and psychologically, as well as being educationally disadvantaged. Special provision must be made for them.

I ask the Minister to help. Some families in this city are dealing with adult handicapped people and they cannot care for them or cope with them on their own. Other Senators will be aware of such cases. Some of the people involved are highly disturbed; for instance, they smear walls. I know one case where both parents are over 80 years old and are dealing with an adult man who is difficult to manage. No services are available to them.

Another aspect he should examine is cases where people who are termed mentally handicapped also get a mental illness. They are incarcerated, as someone put it earlier, in psychiatric hospitals, where no provision is made for them. I know the Minister will do his best. I did not rise to criticise or complain, only to encourage him to continue what he is doing.

This has been a useful and interesting debate. Above all else, the contributions have stressed the need for flexibility in this area. There are many different needs. Senator Lydon mentioned the need to integrate people into ordinary schools and normal education. Many people will benefit from that; others who are profoundly mentally handicapped will need to be in situations where they receive fulltime care. Others are able to attend day-care centres; another group are able to stay at home; and yet more will need close attention and a great deal of care. Another area identified was elderly parents looking after people who are becoming elderly themselves. A flexible attitude is therefore needed to cater for the various different needs.

In that context there are local co-ordinating committees in the health board areas, with representation from the various interest groups. This allows local health boards, in conjunction with service providers, the Department of Health and the parents, to work out the best arrangements for each mentally handicapped person. That is the right approach.

I understand Senator Finneran, as spokesperson for the Opposition, needing to act in the way he did, and he has done a good job from that point of view. However, he is not being fair to the motion in suggesting we are patting ourselves on the back. The debate will indicate that while we have acknowledged the progress made in recent years — and it is right that we do — we are also acknowledging that the needs and abilities document was not up to date in regard to the needs in the community. Both Senator Honan and I indicated this. We have all acknowledged there is a continuing need which must be provided for. By no means can we say we have done enough, because there is more to be done.

Senator Lee spoke about the attitudes in society and said the service providers are mainly religious organisations. Even their names, such as Daughters of Charity, indicate that in the past it has been a charity approach. In our reference to a charter of rights we are taking the approach that people have a right to a service. Everyone has the right to attain their maximum capabilities. We are trying to ensure finance and legislation will exist in the future to ensure everyone in our society — whether they have a physical or mental handicap, or with nothing to hold them back — will have the facilities they need. That is why we call for a charter of rights. That reflects the concern of Senator Lee that society's attitude is important, as is the legislation and the finance put into the service.

All these issues dovetail together, so the debate has been useful. The Minister indicated he will take all the issues into account. He also asked me to indicate that he would be glad to act on the case referred to by Senator Lydon, if he was given the details. There is obviously a need to continue to provide additional services for people with a mental handicap and to have the flexibility to respond to the various needs in our community. There is a particular need to accept the contributions and advice of those caring for the mentally handicapped, who know what the needs are.

Question put and agreed to.

An Leas-Chathaoirleach

When is it proposed to sit again?

At 10.30 a.m. tomorrow.

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