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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 28 Feb 2002

Vol. 169 No. 9

Adjournment Matters. - Schools Building Projects.

I thank the Cathaoirleach for affording me the opportunity to raise the issue of St. Joseph's secondary school, Tulla, on the Adjournment. It is unfortunate that it has again become an issue which must be debated in the Seanad. I want specific answers from the Minister regarding the recent decision made by the Department of Education and Science to proceed with an extension to St. Joseph's secondary school. As the Minister is aware, the parents, teachers and entire Tulla community were most dissatisfied with the decision to proceed with an extension. Their strongly preferred and logical option was a new school on a greenfield site.

The local community prepared a package which they presented to the Minister for Education and Science. Detailed work was done on this by a local architect who made very specific proposals, along with teachers and parents representatives. It must have been clear to the Minister and his officials that the overriding view in Tulla was to proceed with a greenfield site. Nevertheless, the Department has, for a second time, made a decision to proceed with an extension.

A two-acre site in Tulla currently accommodates over 500 pupils; it is very congested. The proposal is to extend that school to accommodate 700 children. The current school opened in 1987 and had 270 pupils. The number of pupils has increased to 540 and all the indications are that the figure will expand much more rapidly in the future. If that happens, as we know it will, it does not seem to be prudent financial management by the Department to proceed with an extension on a two acre site that would prohibit future extension. A future Government will have to build a new school at enormous cost. It would be prudent financial management to build on a greenfield site a new school with playing pitches and to which an extension could be added.

Will the Minister tell us how this decision was reached? Were different considerations taken into account? Was the fact that this is a rapidly expanding area adjacent to Ennis considered? Previous figures showed that it expanded rapidly and current figures indicate that this will continue. Was the question of recreational facilities taken into account as the existing site does not provide these? Did the Department and the Minister properly examine the proposals submitted by the parents' and teachers' representatives?

The decision taken is contrary to the wishes of the local community, parents, teachers and all concerned. Who made such a decision without the agreement of the Tulla community? I thought that we lived in a democracy where the people's will was taken into account and where the wisdom and judgment of a local community received priority consideration. This decision must be looked at again since the prudent action is to build a new school on a greenfield site, affording the current and future students the best in educational facilities and the teachers the best environment in which to teach the young people of Tulla and its environs. If the project goes ahead as the Department envisages, how will the teachers teach and the students study while construction work goes on around and on top of the building? Why for the sake of saving €600,000 or €700,000 did the Department make this ill-considered decision for an area of County Clare where education was given priority in the past, and I hope will be given it in the future?

I thank the Senator for giving me the opportunity to discuss this matter. The school in question was built in 1983 to cater for 250 pupils. An application was received by the Department in 1997 from the school's board of management for additional accommodation. The application was referred to the Department's planning section for assessment of the long-term projected enrolment figure for the school. A figure of 500 pupils was evaluated and subsequently agreed by the board.

It was considered that an extension of 900 square metres was required to provide the rel evant necessary accommodation. Schedules of overall accommodation and residual accommodation were drawn up on this basis by the Department's senior inspector, issued to the board of management and subsequently accepted. The Department's post-primary building unit provided nominations to the board for the appointment of a design team to commence architectural planning of an extension.

In January 1999 the trustees of the school informed the building unit that they had not been consulted regarding the application for additional accommodation and had not given their consent to same. Therefore, the project was put on hold pending their decision. In April 1999 the trustees requested permission to appoint a design team to proceed with the proposed extension. In June 1999, a new list of nominations for the appointment of a design team was sent to the trustees. In November, before they appointed the design team, the trustees and board stated that they did not think an extension was the solution and requested the building unit to consider the provision of a new school on a greenfield site. As a result the building unit requested the trustees to appoint a consultant architect to carry out a feasibility study to look at the best solution to the school's requirements.

In December 2000, the feasibility study was received and referred to the technical staff of the Department for examination. A planning and briefing meeting was held on 24 January 2001 to discuss the four options put forward in the feasibility study. Option three of the recommendations, that is, to refurbish the existing building and provide an extension, was seen as the best. The consultant architect was requested to prepare a report, including detailed costings of phasing and decanting of pupils for this option. A revised feasibility study was received by the building unit in March 2001. However, this study was based on the schedule of overall accommodation and included the application of revised area limits to the existing accommodation and a stand-alone PE hall which were not part of the initial schedule of residual accommodation.

Following examination of this study the decision of the officials in the building unit was to remain with the initial schedule of residual accommodation, to build an extension on the existing site and refurbish the current buildings. This decision was conveyed to the trustees of the school in September 2001. The trustees and board of management of the school were unhappy with this decision as their preferred option was still for a new school on a greenfield site. They again requested the building unit to consider this option and identified six possible sites for the new school.

In November 2001, officials from the building unit visited the school and examined the existing site and the proposed sites put forward by the school authority. All the sites were examined and only one was considered reasonably suitable. However, it is outside the town boundary and approach is by means of a narrow road with no footpaths or public lighting. It also has implications for the local authority regarding the compulsory purchase of adjoining lands. All these considerations and the abnormal works associated with this site rendered it also unsuitable and uneconomical.

A further meeting was held with the trustees in the building unit in Tullamore this month. The trustees were informed that having examined the feasibility study and following the visit to the school and sites, officials concluded that the educational requirements of this school could be met by the provision of an extension of 1,096 square metres on the existing site, encompassing the updating of residual accommodation in line with current area norms. The current buildings are in good condition from educational, architectural and value for money points of view. The trustees were advised that they could apply for a new stand-alone PE hall which would either be provided on the existing site or on an alternative site if available from the trustees. An application form for same was given to the trustees.

The trustees were informed that in the interim the building unit would ensure that three prefabricated classrooms would be provided for September 2002 to cater for the existing enrolments. It is proposed to approve the appointment of a design team to commence architectural planning on the proposed extension-refurbishment in the current year. The appointment of the consultant architect will be via the European procurement procedures.

Does the Minister of State believe it is satisfactory to have a PE hall located some distance from the school? In the case of this school in Tulla, it could be anything up to half a mile away from the school. Is that in the general interests of the children of Tulla?

It was only referred to as an alternative option. It was not a sine qua non.

In other words, the option is either to have no PE hall or to locate it away from the site of the school.

We will note the Senator's observations in regard to a further reply.

I thank the Minister of State.

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