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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 17 Jun 2009

Vol. 196 No. 2

Domestic Violence.

I welcome the Minister of State. This matter concerns the Meath women's refuge and support services and the severe cutback in support made by the Government. I wish to give the context for this issue which concerns violence against women. The Minister of State, who is a cultivated, literate man from a cultivated, literate family will, I am sure, remember a very powerful work by Roddy Doyle entitled "The Woman Who Walked into Doors". This described a woman who was subject to consistent battering by her husband and who was in a situation of denial, which many women are. When they come out of that, they sometimes seek the support of services such as women's refuges. I have been aware of this issue for some time because one of the first times I did my James Joyce one-man shows was to raise funds for the women's refuge in Rathmines. At that stage, I was briefed by them and discovered the vital nature of the services in which they are involved.

Cutbacks in these kinds of areas, where people are very vulnerable, are a direct contradiction of what was said by a Government spokesman when people like me on this side of the House said we would support the Government in the difficult economic circumstances as long as the most vulnerable people were not targeted. It seems vulnerable people are targeted repeatedly. It is for that reason groups such as the Equality Authority and the Combat Poverty Agency were systematically dismantled by the Government.

The facts about domestic violence in Ireland are very worrying. Some 146 women have been murdered in the Republic of Ireland since 1996. Of the 107 resolved cases, 50% were murdered by a partner or ex-partner. Last night a programme on RTE gave extensive coverage to the murder of a young Sligo woman who was murdered by a former partner, a man who was apparently in love with her. He murdered her and skipped across the Border. He was incarcerated in a mental facility but is now living within a short distance of the family. Some 50% of this large number of murders were carried out by a partner or former partner or spouse. Some 92 women, 63%, were murdered in their own homes. This demonstrates the nature or type of the murderer and the location.

In 2007, almost 3,000 children were accommodated in refuges around Ireland. The majority of women accommodated in refuges have at least one child. Some 64% of Irish women who experienced domestic violence reported that their children had witnessed the violence. There is, therefore, continuing damage. In such cases it is psychological damage, the damage of trauma and of seeing one parent savagely abuse another.

Since its establishment, the refuge in Meath has provided crisis accommodation to 1,377 women and 2,343 children to the end of 2008. The specific situation that affects the Meath women's refuge and support services is as follows. Recently a cut of 30% in funding has been implemented. The refuge was informed of this cut without notice or negotiation at a meeting on 8 April 2009. The budget cut, of the order of €10,000 per month or €120,000 per year, was implemented from 1 April and will continue indefinitely. If it continues, the services will be severely curtailed.

The Meath women's refuge and support service is a registered charity governed by a board of management. It has been in operation for the past 21 years, and provides a wide range of services to women in the Meath area who are victims of domestic violence. Such services include crisis refuge accommodation for almost 1,500 women and 2,500 children in that time. The refuge has a very good reputation and is highly regarded professionally. It has worked closely and positively with State agencies, community services and local businesses. The refuge takes referrals from a wide range of organisations in Meath, including the HSE, for example, social workers, public health nurses, general practitioners and accident and emergency units. It has a kind of semi-State function.

In 2008 the organisation received €331,167 from the HSE for refuge provision and accommodated 71 women and 90 children. Demand for the services is very high and increasing. The annual cost for providing safe accommodation and support to each woman and child is approximately €2,050. For many, and this is crucial, this is the cost of keeping them alive. It was for that reason I provided the statistics on murder and its context and the relationship between the murderer and the victim. The cost of keeping someone alive, at €2,050, seems to me pretty good value. The refuge also gives these very vulnerable women and children the support to live their lives safely. There is no alternative service in Meath. If the refuge is inhibited or closed, there is nothing to take up the slack. If this service was provided directly by the State, it is estimated the costs would be three times greater, about €6,000 per person. The 30% reduction in the budget of €10,000 per month will have serious implications for the vulnerable women and children from Meath who avail of these services. I ask the Minister of State to revisit this situation in light of the serious situation that has been precipitated by this severe cutback.

I am taking the Adjournment matter on behalf of my colleague, the Minister for Health and Children, Deputy Mary Harney. I thank Senator Norris for raising this issue and welcome the opportunity to set out the position on the matter.

The service in question is funded by the HSE, by Meath County Council and also by a vigorous local fund-raising initiative. I compliment the organisers of the service in this regard. I understand the service has a total of nine staff and provides services to a maximum of five women and their children at any point in time. Last year the HSE provided €408,000 towards the cost of running this service. In the context of the statutory requirement on the HSE to live within its financial allocation, the executive is reviewing the level of funding for this and other services. Currently, more than 100 local organisations are funded by the HSE in County Meath.

In regard to the Meath women's refuge and support services, the executive also wishes to discuss the service delivery model for the future. I am advised this service is primarily focused on providing a residential facility and that the HSE wishes to re-orient its services to operate on an outreach approach while at the same time recognising that cases can arise where a residential intervention is required.

I understand a meeting has already taken place between officers of the Health Service Executive and the representatives of Meath women's refuge and support services and that a further meeting is scheduled for 23 June. The level of funding and model of service delivery fall to be discussed in the course of this process. This dialogue between the HSE and Meath women's refuge and support services is the best way to take the issue forward. I am confident that, given constructive engagement, it will be possible to build on the success of Meath women's refuge and support services and address the genuine concerns of the executive about its statutory requirement to live within its allocation and provide a state-of-the-art service in this important area of social provision.

I understand the Health Service Executive is putting in place a system of service level agreement. This will be an important next step in establishing robust governance arrangements in the case of this service and across the entire range of services funded by the HSE. In the current economic climate it is more important than ever to ensure that while services are protected, we also achieve value for money and that services are underpinned by the best possible governance arrangements. The best way forward appears to be on the basis of constructive engagement and I am confident progress can be made on this basis.

I thank the Minister of State for his response which provides some, albeit very little, comfort. While I understand he spoke on behalf of the Minister for Health and Children, Deputy Harney, I welcome his acknowledgement that Meath women's refuge and support services provides a valuable service and enjoys an excellent reputation. However, as to his subsequent reference to fund-raising, it is truly awful that vital services such as the Meath women's refuge and other services such as schools and so on are dependent on people raising funds. This was the attitude taken even during the Celtic tiger. The worst aspect of the reply——

The Senator must ask a question.

This will eventually resolve itself into a question.

At midnight perhaps.

Not quite. I will put a question if the Leas-Chathaoirleach requires that little flourish. I ask that the Minister of State request the Minister to justify the ideological approach evident in the statement that "the HSE wishes to reorient its services to operate on an outreach approach". Are we honestly suggesting this should be the case? We are talking about women who are being battered in their own homes, while the Minister of State and the Health Service Executive are talking about outreach. The HSE wants to put vulnerable women where they can be battered again. That is one of the most disgraceful comments I have come across.

I note a meeting is scheduled for 23 June. The reply refers to dialogue which I hope will take place in order that vulnerable women will not be exposed to risk and danger. How will the people who are twiddling their thumbs and coming up with ideas about outreach and returning women to the community and all of this kind of stuff which is nothing other than crap when applied to this area respond if and when someone who has applied to be admitted to the Meath women's refuge is found murdered after her application has been denied?

The answer I provided encapsulates the Health Service Executive's view of how this matter should be addressed. It recognises that there are circumstances in which a residential service will be required because of the nature of the incidents which give rise to referrals to the service in question. It is clear to me, as Minister of State with responsibility for children, that children are involved in these cases. Removing a child from the family home should always be the last resort. This is recognised as best practice in social work.

When domestic violence occurs, one has a prima facie case for removal of the victim of violence and the children involved. Nevertheless, we must remember that when children are involved, the best outcome at all times is for services to be wrapped around the family and the interventions required are provided for. We have to move away from a fully fledged interventionist approach which results in the break-up of families. While I am not suggesting Meath women’s refuge and support services is governed by such a philosophy, we must challenge ourselves to ensure children are kept in families and that every possible step is taken before a child is removed from a family. That is the consideration outlined in the response.

I thank the Minister of State. To make a final point——

There is no provision for further questions or any questions for that matter.

——families are broken up only in the most exceptional circumstances. We are not breaking up families. I do not want to return to the days when people would not interfere in domestic disputes because they considered them a family matter. Women and children need to be protected from this type of damage.

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