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Seanad Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 6 Dec 2011

Vol. 212 No. 1

Adjournment Matters

Tionscal na hIascaireachta

Cuirim céad fáilte arís roimh an Aire Stáit don dara huair inniu. Tá a fhios agam go bhfuil neart eile ar siúl inniu.

Iarradh orm ceist a ardú maidir le tionscal atá fíor thábhachtach i dtaobh tionscal na hiascaireachta, tionscal nach ndéantar mórán cainte faoi de ghnáth ach a bhfuil seans ann go bhféadfadh sé cuid mhaith fostaíochta a chruthú agus a bhféadfadh cuidiú le tionscal na turasóireachta — is é sin iascach na n-eascann anseo in Éirinn.

This matter concerns an industry which is not often spoken about or well known but it is important for the fishing industry, namely, the eel fishing industry. It was a thriving industry but a ban on eel fishing was put in place some years ago. This has prevented fishing for eels even though the industry is thriving in the Six Counties and is creating employment and assists the tourism industry. I am seeking clarification of the Government's policy and strategy for the development of the eel fishing indystry. Will the Minister of State indicate if the ban will be lifted soon?

Sa bhliain 2007, tar éis thaighde eolaíochta de chuid Comhairle Idirnáisiúnta um Thaisceolaíocht na Farraige, ICES, a léirigh go raibh drochbhail rí-thábhachtach ar stoic eascann na hEorpa, thug an tAontas Eorpach isteach rialachán go bhfuil mar sprioc aige téarnamh na stoc chomh fada leis na hardleibhéil a bhíodh ann fadó. Léiríonn na meastacháin gur tharla géar thitim de 90% ar na stoic san tríocha bliain anuas go dti sin agus sa bhliain 2008, ainmníodh an eascann Eorpach go hoifigiúil a bheith i mbaol. Sin an fhíric bhunúsach, go bhfuil siad i mbaol.

Leagann an rialachán ar gach ballstát plean náisiúnta um bhainistiocht na n-eascann a ullmhú. Cuireadh plean na hÉireann faoi bhráid Coimisiún na hEorpa i mí Iúil 2009. Mar chuid den phlean sin, agus é bunaithe ar togha na comhairle bainistíochta agus eolaíochta a bhí ar fáil, glacadh leis an gcinneadh iascach na n-eascann a thabhairt chun stad maraon le bearta caomhnaithe eile chun cur le téarnamh na stoc.

Cuireann fógra caomhnaithe na n-eascann, uimhir CS 303 de 2009, an cinneadh sin i bhfeidhm agus foráiltear ann do dhúnadh an iascaigh go dtí Meitheamh 2012, uair a hathbhreithneofar go hiomlán staid na stoc agus go dtuairisceofar do Choimisiún an hEorpa de réir rialachán na comhairle. San athbhreithniú seo, pléifear cé acu an féidir iascach eascann a oscailt i gceantar abhantraí ar bith agus a thabhairt i gceist na sonraí a bhailíodh idir an dá linn agus conas d'éirigh leis na stoic. Cuimsítear sa phlean bainistiochta eascann clár cuimsitheach um fhaireachán agus um mheasúnú ar na gníomhartha bainistíochta agus a gcur i bhfeidhm. San áireamh freisin, tá clár um mheasúnú eolaíoch ar stoic na n-eascann chun bunlíne stoc a chur ar bun, chun éalu i láthair na huaire de na heascainn airgid a mheasúnú agus chun faireachán a dhéanamh ar fheidhm na ngníomhartha bainistíochta ar stoic logánta. Deirtear sna tuairiscí i leith na blianta 2009 agus 2010 chun an Aire maidir leis an bplean náisiúnta um bhainistíocht na n-eascann arna ullmhú ag an mbuan-chomhairle eolaíochta um eascainn, ar a bhfuil freagracht as faireachán ar na gníomhartha eolaíochta a léirítear i bplean bainistíochta na n-eascann, go bhfuiltear ag leanúint den eolas a bhailiú agus dála na dtasc go luíonn na stoic fós i ndrochbhail ríthábhachtach.

Tugadh faoi shuirbhéanna cuimsitheacha agus measúnaithe ar earcú na n-eascann óg, ar eascainn bhuí agus ar eascainn airgid a bhí ag aibiú le linn 2009 agus 2010 agus táthar ag leanúint diobh sa bhliain 2011. Tá na measúnaithe agus na suirbhéanna seo á stiúradh ag Iascaigh Intíre na hÉireann, ag Ollscoil na hÉireann Gaillimh, ag Bord Soláthar an Leictreachais agus ag Foras na Mara. Do rith an BSL clár iomlán caomhnaithe um eascainn airgid a bhreith agus a iompar, mar a thiomnaíodh sa phlean bainistiochta eascann, ar aibhneacha na hÉirne, na Sionainne agus na Laoi le linn 2009 agus 2010 agus ta séá rith arís sa bhliain 2011.

Léiríonn réamh-mheastacháin ar éalú na n-eascann airgid in abhantracha áirithe go bhfuil borradh éigin i bhfreagairt do dhúnadh an iascaigh agus luíonn na réamh-mheastacháin seo san raon go mbeadh súil leo, a léiriodh sna pleananna bainistiochta eascann. Beidh meastacháin iomlan ar thairgiú agus ar éalú na n-eascann airgid ar fáil le haghaidh tuairisc 2012 chuig an AE. Ní féidir fós oiread na stoc a mheas le haghaidh na ndobharlach móra ná le haghaidh uiscí idirchriosacha agus tá siad san mar ábhar ag staidéeir fadtéarmacha um mharcáil agus um athbhreith agus ag cleachtaithe samhaltuithe chun oiread na stoc logánta a mheas agus tairgeadh acmhainneach agus réaduil a mheas.

Is cúis mhór-imní i gcónaí leathadh seadán ionrach neamhdhúchasach an bhoilg snámha, Anguillicoloides, mar gur féidir go gcuirfidh sé le meath breise agus go gcuirfidh sé in aghaidh téarnamh stoc na n-eascann. Mar achoimre, ta meath ar earcú na n-eascann óga ó na 1980dí anuas agus theip air teacht slán.

Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire Stáit agus tréaslaím leis as ucht freagairt as Gaeilge. Is breá an rud sin a dhéanamh. Tá a fhios agam go bhfuil sé deacair sin a dhéanamh, go háirithe ar ábhar casta agus teicniúil mar seo. Tá mé thar a bheith buíoch dó as ucht a fhreagra a thabhairt i nGaeilge.

An cheist bhunúsach eile a bheadh agam faoi seo ná, ní chosúil go bhfuil aon chosc i bhfeidhm sna Sé Contae ar iascach na n-eascann, ach tá sé i bhfeidhm ó dheas. Tá codarsnacht áirithe ansin, mar deirtear go dtagann cuid mhaith de na h-eascainn ón áit chéanna, go síolraíonn siad san áit chéanna. Nach bhfuil sé beagán ait gur féidir iascach eascann a dhéanamh ó Thuaidh agus nach féidir é a dhéanamh ó Dheas? An bhfuil aon seans go mbainfear an bac i mí Meitheamh?

Tá sé an-tábhachtach an prionsabal sin a chur i bhfeidhm más féidir sin. Ba chóir go mbeadh an polasaí céanna ann maidir le hiascaireacht Thuaidh agus Theas. Táim sásta na tuairimí atá nochtaithe ag an Seanadóir anocht a thabhairt chuig an Roinn agus chun freagra iomlán a fháil dó ar an scéal. Tá mé féin sásta féachaint isteach sa scéal chomh luath agus is féidir liom. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Seanadóir as cur suas le mo Ghaeilge bhriste.

Go raibh maith agat féin. Tá sé thar barr.

Local Authority Housing

It is not often I have the Chamber to myself and the Minister of State. The issue I wish to raise is one about which I have been concerned for a long time, namely, local authority tenants having difficulties with rents. Many of these tenants may be poor at financial management. Local authorities are stretched in regard to the need for cost efficiencies and managing resources. I am proposing and hoping that the Government will help local authorities and tenants in a very practical way. I am proposing that where there are issues in regard to the collection and payment of rents for social housing by tenants, a system of deducting rents at source be introduced. This would have great benefits in that it would assist those who are poor at budgeting and money management to ensure that at least their rent is paid on time. Second, such an arrangement would ensure that the finances of the various local authorities throughout the country are protected and that when somebody falls into arrears, there is a strategy that can be adopted. Third, it would ensure a reduction in man hours in terms of collecting rents. Fourth, while most people who fall into arrears are genuine, there is a cohort who simply do not want to pay rent. Such abuses of the system are taking place in Clare, as I am sure they are in Sligo, Kerry and everywhere else. The arrangement I have proposed would deal with this problem. The Clare county manager told me recently that some tenants have put it to him that they will continue not to pay their rent safe in the knowledge that the council's only recourse is to put them out on the side of the road and thus create further social difficulties. These people know their local authority will not do that.

The most practical and sensible solution to this problem is a system whereby people experiencing difficulties in meeting their rent payments, whether as a consequence of poor money management, or limited resources, will have their rent deducted at source. Paying rent is part of one's responsibility as a local authority tenant. Even in these tough times we should bear in mind that local authority rents are assessed as a proportion of income, usually at something like 27%. There are bad apples in the system and others who get into difficulty through no fault of their own. It is incumbent on us to assist those who have difficulties with money management in order to ensure they at least have a roof over their head.

I thank the Senator for raising this important issue. Since 2005 rent supplement expenditure has increased from €369 million to €516 million in 2010. The number of persons claiming the allowance increased from almost 60,200 in 2005 to more than 96,100 as at mid-November 2011, a 60% increase.

The household budget facility operated by An Post on behalf of the Department of Social Protection already allows certain customers to pay regular amounts towards various household bills, including local authority differential rents, by direct deduction from their social welfare payments. This will be a vital facility for local authorities when they take over responsibility for providing for the housing needs of long-term rent supplement recipients.

On 16 June 2011 the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government and the Minister of State with responsibility for housing published a new housing policy framework statement. This statement, which reflects the content of the programme for Government, sets out the principles to underpin the development of housing policy into the medium term. Specifically, it provides for the transfer of responsibility in providing housing needs for long-term rent supplement recipients to housing authorities on a phased basis.

A multi-agency steering group has been established to develop proposals to give effect to this transfer. The group consists of representatives from: the Departments of the Environment, Community and Local Government, Social Protection, and Public Expenditure and Reform; the County and City Managers Association; and the Housing Finance Agency. Its remit is to finalise proposals and operational protocols for the transfer of responsibility from the Department of Social Protection to housing authorities for persons who have long-term housing requirements, that is, those in receipt of rent supplement for more than 18 months. This will help to achieve the key Government commitment of removing barriers to employment while at the same time returning rent supplement to its original purpose as a short-term income support payment for those temporarily unemployed.

An issue being considered by the steering group is the current arrangements in regard to the deduction of the local authority differential rent from a person's social welfare payment. At present this arrangement can be terminated by the tenant without either the agreement of, or prior notice to, the local authority. This creates a degree of financial uncertainty for local authorities which must be resolved.

I am sure the issue raised by the Senator will be a matter for serious consideration by the steering group. His proposal makes sense and, as such, I am certain it will be given due consideration by the Government in the context of its review of the steering group's recommendations.

I thank the Minister of State for his response. I understand this issue is not within his remit. I would have liked the Minister to come to the House in order to indicate a clear timeframe for this. We need a common sense approach to these matters. In fairness to the Minister of State, he shows that all the time in the work he does. In this case, the common sense approach is that when people are experiencing difficulties in making their rent payments, those payments should be deducted at source. I would go so far as to say that people in receipt of social welfare who are in local authority housing should have their rent deducted from their welfare payment. Such an approach has the benefit of an administrative saving by removing the need for the collection of rent. It makes sense to do so in this time of information technology and advanced communications. Nor is it a case of the State taking something from people to which it is not entitled. As we seek to ensure a general provision of high-quality local authority accommodation, we should also be moving towards a paperless system where rents are collected by electronic means.

My greatest concern is that by the time the programme for Government comes to its conclusion in four and a half years, we will still be in the same situation. Will the Minister of State send a note to the Minister for Social Protection alerting her to the need for a timeframe for action in this area?

I will raise this matter directly with the Minister. It is a vital issue in terms of streamlining local government and making it more efficient. The information technology and software capacity is already there in many instances. A mandatory deduction would be helpful in terms of safeguarding the income streams of local authority housing sections and would facilitate greater efficiencies in terms of the management of finances locally. I am sure the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government, Deputy Hogan, and the Minister for Social Protection, Deputy Burton, will not put this issue on the long finger. I will convey the Senator's concerns to the Ministers and ask them to respond directly to him with regard to a timeframe for implementation. I am sure the county managers would be very much in favour of this.

As the Senator said, there are some people who cannot pay and others who do not want to pay. It is a matter of ensuring the correct balance. This is a timely proposal and I assure the Senator I will convey his concerns to the Ministers concerned. From an efficiency and corporate governance perspective, it is a win-win.

The Seanad adjourned at 8.20 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 7 December 2011.
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