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Seanad Éireann debate -
Thursday, 19 Jan 2012

Vol. 212 No. 12

Adjournment Matters

School Enrolments

Baineann an rún seo leis na ciorruithe atá ag teacht isteach ar scoileanna beaga le níos lú ná 86 dalta iontu, go háirithe scoileanna Gaeltachta agus scoileanna atá amuigh i gceantair tuaithe. De réir an Rialtais, tá na ciorruithe atá beartaithe ag teacht isteach ó mhí Mheán Fómhair 2012. Níl aon dabht ann ach gur buile marfach é seo ar scoileanna tuaithe agus scoileanna Gaeltachta. I mo cheantar féin, beidh 45 bunscoileanna buailte de thoradh an chinnidh seo. Tá 128 bunscoileanna sna Gaeltachtaí agus beidh 95 de na bunscoil-eanna sin buailte de thoradh an chinnidh seo. Droch chinneadh atá ann mar chruthóidh sé fadhbanna ollmhór i scoileanna Gaeltachta. Cuirfidh sé le líon na ndaltaí a bheidh le múineadh ag múinteoirí i mbunscoileanna beaga. Freisin, cuirfidh sé go huile agus go hiomlán in éadan na straitéise 20 bliain don Ghaeilge atá foilsithe agus aontaithe ag an Rialtas.

Chomh maith leis sin, cuirfidh na ciorruithe i gcoinne an tuarascáil teangeolaíochta ar úsáid na Gaeilge sa Ghaeltacht don 20 bliain amach romhainn agus na spriocanna a bhí ansin. Is léir ón tuarascáil nach bhfuil ach 20 bliain ar a mhéid fágtha ag na ceantair is láidre Gaeltachta leis an Ghaeilge a choinneáil mar theanga an phobail. Má leanann an Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna ar aghaidh leis na moltaí seo, beidh an Ghaeilge faoi níos mó brú agus gheobhaidh sí bás i bhfad níos luaithe ná an 20 bliain luaite sa tuarascáil. Caithfidh an Rialtas éisteacht le tuismitheoirí agus scoileanna agus tarraingt siar ón moladh seo, mar is beag airgid a bheidh le sábháil. Tá infreastruchtúr maith ag na scoileanna, múineadh iontach maith á chur ar fáil agus an Ghaeilge á chur chun cinn iontu agus sa phobal mór thimpeall orthu. B'fhiú don Rialtas tarraingt siar.

This issue relates to the decision by the Minister for Education and Skills on small schools, defined as schools with fewer than 86 pupils. The decision was taken by the Minister in the budget to try to, as he said, cut down on the expenditure, without even waiting for the efficiency and value for money review, which is being complied by the Department, to be published. The Minister made a decision to proceed with a policy decision without having first consulted or published the value for money review which was undertaken in consultation with boards of management and principals throughout the country. Why would the Minister consult principal teachers, gather all of the necessary data and then not take it into account when making a conscious decision to attack small rural schools with fewer than 86 pupils?

The schools concerned provide excellent educational opportunities to children of primary school age. It is regrettable that the Minister for Education and Skills proceeded with implementing a cost-cutting exercise on small schools only. What he is in effect doing is targeting small schools in a blatant way to force them to amalgamate or close by raising the pupil-teacher ratio in such schools only, without affecting larger schools. This will inevitably result in a loss of teachers, which will mean larger classes, and a greater number of class groupings having to be taught by one teacher. Taking into consideration all of the paperwork and preparations teachers must do, larger numbers of children with special needs will also be in one classroom with the resulting attendant difficulties which this will inflict on smaller schools. It is also unfair to children with special needs. The measure will bring about closures, amalgamations and the loss of teaching posts within schools.

While the Department is not blatantly saying that it wants to force schools to amalgamate, without question it is doing it by stealth by trying to reduce the number of teachers and make it nearly impossible for small schools to survive, thus forcing them into a situation where they must amalgamate. This is occurring in the North of Ireland where the Minister of Education, Mr. O'Dowd, is forcing schools of fewer than 105 pupils to amalgamate. Why is the Minister for Education and Skills in this Republic following that protocol before a value for money review is published?

I contacted the Minister for Education and Skills and received numerous letters from him on specific queries relating to my constituency. In recent days I received a letter from him referring to the fact that "the phasing of these measures provides the schools concerned with the time to consider the potential for amalgamation with other schools where this is feasible". It is totally ludicrous to ask schools that have invested resources and capital through taxpayers' investment to bring schools up to standard only to close them down. That is unacceptable. The Department is asking the boards of management to make the decision rather than making the decision itself. The Minister continued in the letter to state: "The existing staffing model also acts as a disincentive for small schools to consider amalgamation". Of course it does. That is why we are happy with the existing staffing model. It may not be perfect but at least it allows small, rural schools the opportunity to remain open.

When Fianna Fáil came into government in 1997 one of the first things that was done was that the staffing retention for small schools was reduced from 24 pupils down to 12. We stand by that. We cannot allow the Minister to proceed as outlined. I plead with the Minister of State, Deputy Perry, a member of the Fine Gael Party, to exercise pressure on the Minister for Education and Skills, Deputy Ruairí Quinn, because the implication for small rural schools of this draconian measure which was introduced without consultation will be to close down many parts of rural areas. That will result in children travelling to schools way beyond their reach. In addition, it will be almost impossible for many children to avail of school transport next year given the increase in school transport costs.

There are many reasons for the proposed changes to be reversed. The Minister should listen to the schools and communities and reverse the decision immediately because the cost saving to be achieved is minimal. It is not about saving money; it is about seeking to amalgamate schools and to make it easier to streamline the process. That is not the right way to proceed.

I am taking this Adjournment matter on behalf of my colleague, the Minister for Education and Skills, Deputy Ruairí Quinn. I thank the Senator for raising this issue as it affords me the opportunity to explain to the House the reasoning behind the changes to the staffingschedule.

We are dealing with a very difficult situation in the education sector whereby we have to find savings and control the increase in public sector numbers considering that one third of all public sector employees work in the education sector. It is important to note that a key aspect of the EU-IMF programme of support and Ireland's overall budgetary strategy is a requirement to reduce the public sector payroll. This is especially challenging in the education sector because unlike in other countries, our school-going population is rising rapidly. Places must be provided for the extra 70,000 pupils arriving in schools in the next six years. Teachers must be appointed to teach them. The Minister for Education and Skills will ensure every child has a physical place in which to go to school.

Providing for increased enrolments is a key priority but making some adjustment to teacher numbers is unavoidable given the budgetary constraints and the difficulties of the situation we encountered on arriving into office. We do not have monetary control of the economy currently. The net impact on overall teacher numbers in schools has been minimised to the greatest extent possible.

As part of the budget decisions announced recently, the number of pupils required to gain and retain a teaching post in small primary schools will be gradually increased between September 2012 and September 2014. The schools concerned are those with four or fewer classroom teachers. At present the staffing schedule at primary level disproportionately benefits small primary schools. That is evident when we look at average class size in schools. Even when all of these phased increases are implemented, the threshold for small schools will still be significantly lower than the minimum of 28 pupils that was required for the appointment of a second teacher in schools prior to the mid-1990s.

While I acknowledge the concerns raised by the Senator, the budget measure must be seen in the context of the major challenges we have as a Government in trying to shelter public services to the greatest extent that we can in these exceptional times. Furthermore, the phasing of these measures can provide the schools concerned with time to consider the potential for amalgamation with other schools if they so wish and where it is feasible to do so.

I re-emphasise that no small schools will be forced to close by the Department owing to this budget measure. If amalgamations take place, they will be voluntary and follow decisions taken by local communities and not by the Department. Separately, a value for money review on small primary schools has been under way in the Department for the past year. This is part of the normal review process undertaken annually by all Departments on selected areas of expenditure. Among the issues being taken into account in the review are questions such as availability of diversity of provision, ethos of schools, parental choice, the language of instruction, travel distances, transport costs and the impact of schools on dispersed rural communities. The review will examine the locations of small schools relative to each other and to other schools of a similar type. It will also examine the costs of running small schools and the educational outcomes associated with small schools. The value for money review is simply about ascertaining all the facts to inform future policy in this area. Work on the review is well advanced and the Minister expects that the report of the review should be available to him shortly. The Minister will then have to consider its outcomes and proposals.

I emphasise again that the measure before the House is not about closing small schools. The changes to staffing schedules alter the current preferential position of small schools over larger ones. That alone is what is changing in September next with respect to small schools.

I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Perry, who is from the north west and, I am sure, understands the difficulty this measure is creating. It is the Minister, Deputy Quinn, who should be answering these questions because it beggars belief that any Cabinet Minister would make a policy decision that would impact on many small schools with fewer than 86 pupils. To call it an efficiency measure without waiting for the publication of the efficiency report does not make sense. It is evident that the Minister made a calculated political decision to target smaller schools without having the detailed information available to him. That is causing a great deal of annoyance among teachers and parents, rightly so, because it is the wrong approach. I plead with the Minister of State to exert as much pressure as possible on the Minister on this issue because it will impact negatively on all of rural Ireland but especially on education in rural schools and in small communities.

The difficulty is the EU-IMF programme which has set the template in terms of us spending €1.3 billion per month more than we are taking in. That is the legacy the Government inherited and, unfortunately, actions must be taken which we as a Government would prefer not to have to take but, with careful management and due diligence, we hope to deal with that. I have no doubt the Minister has some insight into the report, the publication of which is imminent. This issue is ongoing and was even with the previous Administration. I have no doubt that every consideration will be given by parents, teachers and the boards of management to ensure the pupil-teacher ratio will be balanced and will reflect the needs of the children. The reply from the Minister, Deputy Quinn, clearly indicates that no school will be closed. It is a matter entirely for the boards of management and their capability to decide what is in the best interests of the children.

Job Losses

I call on the Minister of State to make a statement on the closure of the Diageo Dundalk plant, the former Harp lager plant, and the implications of that for the economy of Dundalk. The devastating news delivered to the staff last Thursday that the plant is due to close in July 2013 will bring to an end the long tradition of brewing in Dundalk which dates back to the 19th century.

Dundalk, which was once one of the most industrial towns in the country, has seen the demise of many industries in recent years, including our other local sister brewery, Macardle Moore, which closed in 2001. The unfortunate closure of the Harp brewery, as it is better known in Dundalk, is yet another blow to the people of Dundalk who have already suffered so much recently with the national economic downturn and the sterling rate due to its close proximity to the Border with Northern Ireland. The Harp brewery was a major sponsor of many projects in our town and the loss of sponsorship for local projects will be sorely felt by all in the town.

I wish to ask some questions about the decision to relocate all operations to St. James's Gate. Having spoken to a number of workers from the Dundalk plant in the past week, I have been informed that there are close to 100 staff in the plant, including between 57 and 62 full-time workers, although I stand to be corrected on that, along with contract workers, catering staff and maintenance workers. When all of those are taken into account and from my reports, there are close to 100 staff in the plant. The information given to all the staff in the booklet last Thursday clearly states that no further head count will be needed for St. James's Gate, meaning that none of them will be redeployed.

I ask that every effort be made to ensure these loyal and dedicated workers, some of whose families have worked in that brewery for generations in one of the oldest traditions of their town, are provided with fair and full support, ensuring their skills, loyalty and dedication to Diageo is properly and fairly recognised.

In its announcement last week, Diageo made much of the provision of the 300 jobs in the construction phase of the new brew house in St. James's Gate, but that is misleading as the proposed construction jobs will be of a temporary nature and will not create new employment when one takes into account the number of jobs that will be lost between both the Dundalk and Kilkenny plants. I also have serious concerns about where it will get the vast volumes of extra water needed to produce the additional amount of brewing and the way it will be obtained.

The area around St. James's Gate is residential. How will this move affect the residents in the area? How will all the extra traffic caused by delivery trucks, tankers and so on affect the residents in the surrounding areas? How will the environmental issues, with the increase in production planned after the Dundalk and Kilkenny plants are amalgamated with St. James's Gate, be dealt with? The steam and the smell from the hops around the Dundalk plant, and around the town, on brewing days is synonymous with the town and is something that will be sorely missed. If that is trebled, I wonder about the environmental effects that will ensue.

Will the Minister of State question what will become of the Dundalk site? It is imperative that this monumental site with its symbol of the harp, which has always been the symbol of Dundalk also, is not allowed to fall into disrepair. I hope Diageo will release its plan for the site as soon as possible. It is extremely sad that from July 2013 we will never again see "Brewed in Dundalk" on our bottles of beer, particularly the harp symbol which is on many things around the town. I looked at the Diageo website earlier and it describes Harp Lager as being brewed in Dundalk with "pure water from the Cooley Mountains". How will that be possible when the plant moves to St. James's Gate, and does that mean that Harp lager beer will no longer be available?

I thank the Senator for raising this important issue. The operations of the company referred to by the Senator have been under review for some time. The decision on its future brewing operations in Ireland was the result of a detailed examination of the company's existing businesses in Ireland. The investment announced for St. James's Gate last week will consolidate brewing operations and while I welcome the company's announcement of the major new investment that secures the future of brewing in Ireland, I was disappointed to hear that the closure of the Dundalk site, which was announced in 2008, would now materialise.

I am conscious of the anxiety the proposed closures will create for the workers involved and their families, as well as the local communities in terms of the history of the site and the connection with Dundalk. The State agencies will make every effort to develop new employment opportunities for Dundalk. It is vital that a plan of action would be commenced and work begun on that.

The intention to close the existing brewery in Dundalk in 2013 was announced by the company in 2008. At the time the company intended to expand part of St. James's Gate and open a greenfield facility in the greater Dublin area. In early 2009, the company announced that it was reviewing its decision to establish the new brewery. The brewery in Dundalk has played an important role over the years in the historic success of the company's brands in Ireland and in terms of the promotion of the Cooley Mountains.

While the decision on plant closure is a matter for the company, Enterprise Ireland has been, and is, actively engaging with the company on an ongoing basis — it is the intention of the Government to ensure that engagement is ongoing — and is seeking investments to protect and grow jobs in Ireland. A number of investments in research and development programmes in the company's operations have been secured in recent years, including programmes for which Enterprise Ireland approved grant support in June 2008 and in August 2010. That is an ongoing research and development innovation programme.

In April, July and December 2011, Enterprise Ireland met the company to discuss the developments in St. James's Gate and plans for Kilkenny and Dundalk. In October 2011, at the request of the company, the agency made a presentation to the staff at the Dundalk brewery on the future skills needs of the manufacturing sector in Ireland and on the outlook for that sector. Enterprise Ireland is continuing to work proactively with the company to ensure that it continues to develop its existing brands in Ireland and that the maximum number of jobs are retained here.

The full range of State supports will be deployed to support the Dundalk workers at the appropriate time. The enterprise development agencies will continue to engage proactively with the company to explore future opportunities for staff. It is very important that there be time for engagement.

Job creation is at the top of the Government's agenda and we have been working hard to create the improved economic conditions that will support the maintenance of existing jobs and the creation of new ones. The jobs initiative, announced last May, focuses our limited resources on measures that offer the greatest potential for expansion and employment creation in the domestic economy. Work is also continuing on the Government's action plan for jobs which will set out a series of clear, actionable measures to support the creation and retention of jobs. The strategy will focus on areas such as assisting indigenous businesses to grow, supporting indigenous start-ups, attracting inward entrepreneurial start-ups and supporting employment initiatives within the community.

It is important that the impact of the company's decision on employment in Dundalk be minimised. The State enterprise agencies and the Louth County Enterprise Board will continue to make every effort to develop new employment opportunities for Dundalk and the surrounding area.

Enterprise Ireland's activity is focused on the creation of new jobs through continuing to work with established companies in its portfolio. The agency is also supporting entrepreneurs in manufacturing and internationally traded services companies who are setting up high-potential start-up companies. This week, the highest ever level of exports by Enterprise Ireland companies was reached. CSO figures published yesterday indicated the success of Enterprise Ireland-managed companies.

The county enterprise boards provide a valuable resource for those starting a business. Anyone who has been made redundant or who is facing redundancy in Dundalk and who is interested in exploring options for setting up their own business should contact the Louth County Enterprise Board for appropriate advice and assistance.

IDA Ireland continues to promote the Dundalk area for important new investment in the pharmaceutical, clean technologies, globally traded businesses and financial services sectors. The agency is actively engaged with the existing client base in the town to encourage its transition to higher value activities and its continued commitment to Ireland. Dundalk is being promoted and marketed actively by IDA Ireland among potential investors.

I am confident the measures outlined in the action plan for jobs, together with the activities being pursued by the State agencies in Dundalk, will continue to support enterprise development and provide employment opportunities. The State agencies will continue to work closely with one another and local interests and communities to support an integrated approach to job creation in Dundalk.

With regard to the site for Dundalk, the community and agencies should embark on discussions with Diageo with regard to its proposal for the vast site and how it could be utilised to the benefit of the entire region, especially Dundalk. I have no doubt that this engagement will be part of the negotiations with the vested interests in the region, employers, staff and management, the chamber of commerce and all the development agencies in the town.

I totally agree with the Minister of State that it is vital. All too often, when companies leave towns, including Dundalk, their premises are allowed to become derelict and havens for anti-social behaviour. I ask that everything be done to prevent this and that there be sufficient communication. Dundalk, as the Minister of State said, is in an ideal location. It is situated on the east coast and is 50 miles from both Belfast and Dublin. I ask that all these considerations be taken into account in order to maintain the confidence of the workers in Diageo and the graduates from the local college, Dundalk Institute of Technology, which has provided employment for many.

As I stated clearly, the agencies will be working proactively in every possible way to ensure that job losses will be minimised. There is a timeframe of opportunity with regard to the development at St. James's Gate and the impact of this development. When one considers the opportunities for alternative investments in Dundalk, one notes the priority is very much to attract investment to the region. We should bear in mind the history of the region, the potential of the site, perhaps as some form of tourist development, and the added value conferred on it by its proximity to the Cooley Mountains. I have not been on the site but would imagine that, with its history as a brewing location for generations, its association with the region should be retained in some way. I have no doubt that——

To develop tourism in the area.

The Senator should consider the potential in that regard with the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Deputy Varadkar. That is not to diminish the role of the Department of Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation in maximising the job potential of the region. The priority of Mr. O'Leary of IDA Ireland will be to attract foreign direct investment and that of Mr. Frank Ryan of Enterprise Ireland will be to ensure that the indigenous economy is supported. The county enterprise boards will be working proactively and collectively to ensure that we retain and create additional jobs. I hope we minimise the losses as best we can.

That is another reason to opt for the Narrow Water bridge.

The Seanad adjourned at 5.35 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 25 January 2012.
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