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Seanad Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 21 Mar 2012

Vol. 214 No. 7

Adjournment Matters

Mental Health Services

I welcome the Minister of State, but I doubt I will welcome what she has to say in her prepared speech. This issue concerns once again the continued asset stripping of community resources, particularly from rural areas. I have raised a number of these issues in the past with various Governments, including the issue of the Bethany homes in Carlow — also the location of the issue I am raising now — Abbeyleix in my home county of Laois and Valentia hospital. Many of the cutbacks are mean-minded, hamfisted and inefficient because, in the long term, they lead to greater Exchequer expense.

I have visited St. Dympna's Hospital in Carlow the resource that is the subject of this matter and have been immensely impressed. St. Dympna's Hospital deals with people with intellectual difficulties of one kind or another and emotional problems and is very much a community-based service. I was very impressed by the environment, the staff and by one of the patients who remembered me. It took me some time to recall him, but I had a long conversation with him and he was extremely flattering about the impact the services have had on him personally. I believe he is a person who will suffer if the services are cut back or abolished. It would be wrong to do that.

It has been suggested that staff levels at St. Dympna's Hospital, and in the STEER system in particular, are above the average. This fails to take into account that many of the staff complement work in a remarkable intellectual disability unit in the grounds of the hospital. If this was taken into account, the situation would be clearer. This is matter that is not just parochial and of importance to Carlow. It is symptomatic and for that reason it is being taken up actively by the Psychiatric Nurses Association. Mr. Des Kavanagh, the general secretary of the PNA made the point that people in the Carlow region are extremely annoyed to see model services that have been built up in this area over a long period being slowly dismantled. He said that clients have had services cut, outreach services have been halved and in the case of a very effective service, the supported training education employment referral, STEER project, it was being dismantled completely. He went on to say that the result of this scale of cutbacks on services would be to outwardly put more demands and costs on other areas of psychiatric services in the long run. All of those concerned in the mental health services are united in demanding these cuts are reversed. In the long run, these cuts are not cost savings.

The assertive outreach service, which provided much needed support to service users will be effectively halved. This move, as well as being unfair to service users and staff, is short-sighted and will cause an even greater spend in the long run. These clients now face even greater risk of relapse. STEER supported and reassured patients and gave them opportunities that ensured they were integrated in society and given possibilities that made them less likely to relapse. It also improved their quality of life and gave them access to choices and helped them return to education. Its work was very impressive. It may seem to those who might be intellectual snobs, with university degrees and so on, that the level of attainment is quite small — FETAC and so on — but that level is a huge achievement for somebody with an emotional or intellectual disability, difficulty in adjusting and who has never had the benefit of systematic or proper education. For them to achieve this is remarkable.

There is also a service entitled Clann Nua a name that tells us it provides a "new family". Clann Nua provides a familial environment for vulnerable people. It is a day service for clients living in hostels and sheltered accommodation. The service users in question whom I know personally are completely dismayed at the possibility of the loss of this service as it is vital to them. They find assistance from it with everything, from managing their budgets to medication management. It is significant for them to get this assistance from people they have come to know and trust. The alternative management centre is a considerable distance away and puts unbearable difficulty on them.

The STEER approach is to move clients away from the industrial unit sheltered workshop base back to mainstream work or education, rather than keep people within the mental health services area. I am sure the Minister of State will agree this is important. This system motivates patients. The figures are impressive. In one year, there were 176 job referrals. The results of the intervention are that people are happier as noted in the shifts of mood recorded — STEER keeps detailed records — even after just the third session. For people who experience this kind of difficulty, it is important this service should be available. There is significant contact with groups that can provide jobs, such as FÁS, FETAC and so on. These organisations maintain personal contact with the management and tutors and like to get referrals from STEER because of its reputation. Prior to the STEER programme, people would have remained unemployed for years.

The impact of the proposed reconfiguration will be that the assertive outreach programme will be damaged. It provides a service for 26 active clients who are among the most vulnerable users. Crisis intervention will also be inhibited. With a single nurse on duty, it will not be possible to have crisis intervention and this will hamper the capacity for relapse prevention and early detection. The day services will also be affected.

I remind the Minister of State that this is a situation where there are vulnerable people and where it is possible there will be cutbacks to the services. I have raised the matter of cutbacks in other areas where it has been shown that there was mean-minded application of HIQA criteria, like closing a facility because of peeling paint. Does the Minister of State seriously believe that bothers people? Perfectly adequate facilities are being closed down, with a destructive impact on the community and an ultimate cost on the Exchequer although it may appear there is an immediate saving. I appeal to the Minister of State to look again at this situation.

I am replying to this debate on behalf of my colleague, the Minister of State, Deputy Kathleen Lynch, who has responsibility for disability, equality, mental health and older people's issues. I thank the Senator for raising this matter.

In line with A Vision for Change, a comprehensive change programme which will deliver a modern patient-centred quality and responsive community-based model of mental health services for the people of Carlow, Kilkenny and south Tipperary is currently under way. Central to this is also the closure of old long stay institutional-type facilities. To this end, the HSE has developed a very detailed plan for the further development of mental health services in the Carlow-Kilkenny and south Tipperary areas in line with A Vision for Change . This plan will see the majority of patients and clients being treated in the community by enhanced community mental health teams, newly formed home-based treatment teams and the expansion of the acute day services and day hospitals in both Carlow and Kilkenny. These comprehensive community services will mean that far fewer people will require care in an acute inpatient hospital setting.

The budgetary situation in 2012 will challenge all areas of the health service to provide continuity of services that are both appropriate and safe for patients. Like other care areas, savings are being required from the mental health service. Due to staff retirements from Carlow mental health services, there is a requirement for the HSE to reorganise services and to match staffing resources with service and activity priorities.

STEER, the supported training education employment referral programme, to which the Senator referred, is a community-based vocational rehabilitation service which provides assistance for mental health service users to gain access to mainstream education and employment. It is currently staffed by one whole-time nurse. It is proposed to redeploy this staffing resource to Carlow day hospital. The provision of the STEER service will continue; however, it will now be provided by members of the community mental health team.

In addition, it is proposed to redeploy allied health professionals to assist with the provision of this important aspect of a person's recovery and integration into mainstream activities. I very much welcome the general approach which the Senator outlined that STEER has taken in regard to bringing people closer to mainstream services.

I am also glad to say that it was possible in budget 2012 to announce a special allocation of €35 million for mental health services. This funding will be used primarily to strengthen community mental health teams in both adult and children's mental health services. I think we all agree it is important that we get best value for our available resources. We need to co-ordinate our efforts and work together to develop mental health services in line with the recommendations in A Vision for Change. In essence we need to provide more with less and, in effect, this has already been successfully achieved in mental health service provision in other areas.

This House can be absolutely assured of the Government's unwavering commitment to our mental health services. The provision of an additional €35 million in the current very difficult economic circumstances is evidence of our commitment in that regard.

I thank the Minister of State. Of course, I welcome the €35 million and complimented the Minister of State on the savings in the Bill discussed earlier. She is a very good stand in——

A brief question, Senator.

I am warming up.

We are at this quite a while.

The Minister of State is a very good stand in for the Minister of State, Deputy Kathleen Lynch, whose speech she read. I know all about A Vision for Change and remember when it was produced. I read it and discussed it with some of the people who were looking for it. However, it has not been fully implemented. It has been partially implemented in order to save money. The Minister of State spoke about the closure of old long stay institutional-type facilities——

There is no provision for——

These are the ones the people want. I ask the Minister of State to convey to the Minister of State, Deputy Kathleen Lynch, the needs of the community and to ask the community. The Minister of State said the plan would see the majority of patients being treated in the community by enhanced community mental health teams and newly formed this, that and the other. I simply do not believe that will happen because the resources are not available. Will the Minister of State suggest to her colleague that she ask those people who are actively employed and working extremely hard in this area what their view is? If one wants to know the truth, one should ask the people who are at the receiving end of, and who are delivering, the service? They are the people who know.

I am not for one moment trying to defend what has happened up to this current year. We all know the problem is that A Vision for Change was not implemented. However, there is a very strong commitment on the part of the Government to ensure it is implemented and that is why an additional €35 million has been provided this year and will be provided for the next three years at least in this regard. Anybody who has heard the Minister of State, Deputy Kathleen Lynch, speak about this issue and witnessed the actions she has taken in the past year will not be in any doubt about her commitment in this area.

I acknowledge her absolute commitment.

She is absolutely determined to implement A Vision for Change as it is the way to go, on which everybody is agreed. I assure the Senator that the Government will deliver on it.

Tourism Amenities

I welcome the Minister of State, Deputy Ring, and thank him for coming to the House to take this matter. I did not think in the last Dáil that I would be in the Seanad speaking to him about a model railway but I will explain why it is very important.

Fortunately, Malahide has seen substantial investment in Malahide Demesne and Malahide Castle for a number of years. In January 2009, a €10 million investment in Malahide Castle was announced to develop the craft courtyard, open up the castle and to do what the Minister of State and his colleague, the Minister, Deputy Varadkar, have been speaking about in regard to improving our tourism product and accessibility. Malahide Castle and Demesne is a fantastic facility. I met the Minister, Deputy Varadkar, on 3 February when he was turning the sod which did not grate with me, even though we announced the investment back in January 2009. I was glad to see him there as it will create 80 jobs with the anchor tenant being Avoca Handweavers.

Leaving that aside, I will outline for the Minister of State the geography of the area. He will visit Malahide Cricket Club, of which I am a member, the week after next. It was glad to secure €500,000 to create an international one day ground in Malahide. Right opposite where the Minister of State will visit the week after next is the Casino House which is a very important architectural building at the entrance to Malahide. It is a thatched building which, unfortunately, has fallen into some disrepair. It is managed by NAMA.

A very generous individual, the late Micheál Gaffney, bequeathed €1.5 million in a trust to secure the Casino House on the basis that the Fry Model Railway, the largest model railway in Ireland, was returned to its rightful place in Malahide. That would do two things. First, it would return the model railway to what was its home for years and, second and most important, it would protect a very important building in Malahide which is currently vacant, on which I think the Minister of State would agree with me, given his portfolio. We saw what happened in Belcamp College. It was stripped bare, thus destroying a €250,000 building. We have agreed contracts with NAMA of €600,000 and have ample money —€1.5 million — to purchase the building and restore the 1.9 acres around it, as well as the walled gardens, to their former glory. We have full planning permission to add on a coffee shop which I reckon would create six to eight jobs adjacent to Malahide train station.

What is crazy about all of this? One would think that if one was offered €1.5 million, we could do all of this without requiring any money from the Minister of State's Department and that everything would be great. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Bus Éireann plans to spend €1 million doing up the Eblana Theatre in Busáras and to locate the largest model railway in the country in a bus station in the middle of Dublin. The irony of that is not lost in that Bus Éireann is there to run buses and certainly not to run model railways.

I served with the Minister, Deputy Varadkar, in Fingal County Council and we know each other very well. I advised him of this on 3 February. I do not want to see this opportunity being lost. It would be a terrible waste of taxpayers' money for Bus Éireann to spend any money locating this exhibition in Busáras. If that happens, we will lose the €1.5 million bequeathed, we will not be able to purchase the Casino House and we will not be able to bring the Fry Model Railway back to Malahide and create six or eight jobs. There is unbelievable community support for this, both in Malahide and the surrounding areas, and within Fingal County Council. Two of colleagues from the council, Councillors Darragh Butler and Eoghan O'Brien, have raised this matter in the council which is fully supportive. We want this to happen and I hope the Minister of State can help us achieve it. If he has a spare two minutes when he is visiting Malahide cricket club the week after next I will bring him across the road and show him how fantastic this facility could be.

I am pleased to respond to the Senator on behalf of my colleague, the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport, Deputy Leo Varadkar, who is on his way to Brussels to attend a meeting of EU transport Ministers. He apologises for his absence.

I understand that in 2009, Fingal County Council applied to Fáilte Ireland for tourism capital investment support to renovate Malahide Castle. The project includes works to provide improved visitor services along with interpretation and presentation improvements to the gardens. Grant aid of €3.5 million from Fáilte Ireland has been approved for the project which is expected to be completed by the end of 2012. Overall, this is a €10 million investment for the purpose of enhancing the existing tourism facilities in Malahide Castle and gardens. It is expected the renewed castle and gardens will cater for 250,000 visitors per year. This is good news for Malahide and for Dublin.

Part of the renovation at Malahide Castle necessitated the demolition of buildings within the grounds including the building that housed the Fry Model Railway. The deed of covenant attached originally to the sale of the model railway bestowed it to Dublin Tourism. When notice was received of the renovations Dublin Tourism approached the four Dublin local authorities and the Office of Public Works to try to find a suitable home for the Fry Model Railway. These efforts were unsuccessful. Subsequently, Dublin Tourism received unsolicited submissions from a number of interested parties to house the railway.

The board of Dublin Tourism considered it vital that a suitable home be identified for the collection as soon as possible and approved a process which set the following criteria: the collection and the rolling stock must be kept together; it should be kept in the Dublin region as a visitor attraction; it must be on exhibit to the public during certain opening hours; the deed of covenant must be adhered to; and it would be preferable if it could be kept in public ownership.

Given these criteria Bus Éireann and the Busáras building was the only suitable party identified as a potential home for the model railway. Some months later a group from Malahide approached Dublin Tourism with information concerning a related private bequest and the potential to house the railway in another building in Malahide. From the outset this group was informed that Dublin Tourism had already entered into negotiations with another party and that the process was well advanced. On the 16 January 2012, Dublin Tourism amalgamated with Fáilte Ireland. Fáilte Ireland is now in advanced negotiations regarding the best possible future use and promotion of the Fry Model Railway and expects the matter to be concluded in the coming weeks. Any final agreement reached will be in keeping with the terms of the original covenant which bestowed it to the State.

I will bring to the attention of the Minister, Deputy Varadkar, and Fáilte Ireland the points made by the Senator in order that they can be taken into account by Fáilte Ireland in reaching a final agreement which I know will be in the best interests of Irish tourism and the use of this important and unique asset.

For the clarification of the Minister of State, his reply states that Dublin Tourism received unsolicited submissions from a number of interested parties to house the railway. Last week the organisation stated it had had a public competition to this end which was not correct. I contradicted it at the time and I am glad to see Dublin Tourism has changed the statement. Its efforts to find a suitable home were intended simply to store the railway not to provide a permanent home. The answer that was provided for the Minister of State is therefore not correct.

Can I take it from the answer, which states that any final agreement reached will be in keeping with the terms of the original covenant of bestowal to the State, that no final decision has been taken? When he sees the Malahide Casino I am sure the Minister of State will agree that within his portfolio there is an opportunity to secure a very important building that would locate this fantastic collection adjacent to a train station. Any person in his or right mind would not believe Busáras could be used as a tourism hub for such a unique collection. All the Minister of State and the Minister, Deputy Varadkar, need to do between them is knock a few heads together and ensure this. No agreement has been entered into as per this answer. Let us not waste €1 million. I am sure we can find some very good projects in Kerry to spend it on, or anywhere else around the country.

I am sorry. I am getting mixed up. Mayo in particular — or anywhere else. This is too important. We only have until the end of April. This would be a great news story. I thank the Minister of State for attending and giving his time. I would appreciate it if he would bring the points I raised back to the Minister, Deputy Varadkar.

I certainly will. I will be in Malahide with Deputy Alan Farrell and Senator O'Brien and will have no problem in taking a look around. Deputy Farrell also raised this issue with me. I will meet the Senator on site and will bring his points to the attention of the Minister.

School Accommodation

I welcome the Minister of State to the House. I raise this issue because I have been in contact with the board of management and the principal of Gaelscoil Philib Barún in Tramore, County Waterford, for many years and have supported them in their battle for a school and capital funding. A meeting was organised with Oireachtas Members last week, with representatives present from the Minister of State's party and the Labour Party, along with an Independent Deputy and myself. We spoke to a large number of very angry parents. I told them the anger needed to be turned into action and that we should meet the Minister for Education and Skills as soon as possible. I also gave a commitment to table this Adjournment motion in order to put the record straight on the history of this school. I will give a brief outline of that history.

In September 1985, Gaelscoil Philib Barún opened, with 29 pupils. It was a one-teacher school located in Pond Road, in Tramore. In 1989 the school moved its three teachers and 65 pupils to Stella Maris House in Pond Road, Tramore. In 1992 a site was identified in Tramore but in 1993 planning permission was refused for it. In 1994 a second site was identified but in 1995 planning permission was again refused. In 1996 a series of meetings began with council officials in regard to identifying a new site. That was the case until 1999 when further consultations took place with the county manager. In May 2000 the Department of Education and Science instigated a study of the school's demographics and projected growth and an eight-classroom building was recommended for a 2.5 acre site. In 2002 the purchase of a site was finally agreed but because of the urgency of the gaelscoil's accommodation needs temporary prefabs were offered by the Department and the board of management reluctantly agreed to this.

In January 2003 Gaelscoil Philib Barún moved to an incomplete site following prolonged delays and difficulties with some of the contractors working on the site. The school's pupil population doubled in that year. In 2004 an application was made for additional temporary accommodation, which was granted. In 2005, the Department sought a new study of the school's projected demographics which was completed in May of that year and sent to the Department. The school heard nothing back.

In 2007 the board of management awaited the appointment of a design team. That happened and a priority rating of band 2.2 was given to the school. In 2009 a series of public meetings was held. A big meeting in Tramore was attended by parents, pupils and politicians who heard about the long plight and struggle the board of management, teachers and headmaster fought to get the necessary funding. In 2011 they finally received very good and long overdue news when it was announced the school was moving to architectural design stage. Earlier this year a design team was put in place.

The situation is that since 2000 children have been taught in prefabs. Every time I drive into Tramore I look to my right at one of the major roundabouts and I see all the prefabs which have been there for so long. I have given the Minister of State a brief history of what the school has had to do. It has jumped through all the hoops and over all the hurdles. An architectural study was carried out and a design team put in place. There are pupils who have never experienced a communal school with a proper hall — that is what they told us at the meetings. Given the history of the school's long struggle for proper school buildings the pupils were flabbergasted to be left out of the five-year programme. It is unacceptable that those pupils must wait until the five-year programme is over before they can resubmit an application. An Oireachtas Member from the same party as the Minister of State stood up at the meeting and said that he cannot and will not make any excuses. Why is that? It is because there is no excuse or justification of the exclusion of the school. In all of these matters, there are winners and losers but in this situation, given the history of the school, the fact that pupils have been taught in prefabs for so long and the fact that it was at the architectural stage, it is crazy that there are provisions in the capital programme for schools without a board of management. I hope the Minister of State has good news because there are angry parents at the school and they will not give up on this issue. We must put pressure on the Minister for Education and Skills to ensure he makes the right decision and grants the school the appropriate level of funding. It costs €65,000 a year to rent these prefabs. It is not good enough and something must be done.

I am taking this matter on behalf of the Minister for Education and Skills, Deputy Ruairí Quinn. I thank the Senator for raising the matter as it provides me with the opportunity to outline to the Seanad the Government's strategy for capital investment in education projects in the next five years and to clarify the current position of the application for major capital funding from Gaelscoil Philib Barun, Tramore, County Waterford, whose roll number is 19885B. The Senator may find it helpful if I set out the context within which decisions relating to meeting the accommodation needs of schools must be considered in the coming years. Total enrolment is expected to grow by some 70,000 students between now and 2018 — by over 45,000 at primary level and 25,000 at post-primary. Second level enrolment is expected to continue to rise until at least 2024. In order to meet the needs of our growing population of schoolgoing children, the Department must establish new schools as well as extending or replacing a number of existing schools in areas where demographic growth has been identified. The delivery of these new schools, together with extension projects to meet future demand, will be the main focus of the Department's budget for the coming years.

The five year programme announced on 12 March will provide more than 100,000 permanent school places, of which more than 80,000 will be new school places. The remainder will be the replacement of temporary or unsatisfactory accommodation. The project for Gaelscoil Philib Barun is intended to provide a new eight-classroom replacement school plus teaching accommodation for three full-time special education teachers and appropriate ancillary accommodation including a general purpose room. The new building is to be provided on the 2.5 acre site where the school is currently located in temporary accommodation. The eventual removal of the prefabs will form part of the project.

The project is at an early stage of architectural planning. A tender exercise to appoint a design team was recently completed and the design team will shortly be authorised to proceed to develop the detailed design. The project will continue to progress through the design stages up to and including securing planning permission and the preparation of tender documents. In view of the need to ensure that every child has access to a school place, the delivery of major school projects to meet the demographic demands nationally will be the main focus for capital investment in schools in the coming years. The five-year programme is focused on meeting those demographic needs. In that context, it was not possible to advance all applications for capital funding concurrently.

All school building projects, including the project for the gaelscoil, will continue to be advanced incrementally over time within the context of the funding available. However, in light of current competing demands on the Department's capital budget, it is not possible at this time to give an indicative timeframe for the progression to tender and construction of the project.

The Minister's response says that the project is at an early stage of architectural planning and acknowledges the need for a new building on a 2.5 acre site owned by the Department. However, it reads as if this is an impediment. The school is more advanced than most schools in the capital programme. This school is at the architectural design stage and the design team has been appointed. Schools that do not even exist, with no boards of management, are being provided with funding, yet this school, which has been fighting for 26 years and whose pupils have been taught in prefabs since the early 2000, is not included in the capital programme. It is simply not good enough and the Minister of State should pass on a message to the Minister for Education and Skills that we cannot have schools that exist only on paper being provided with funding while a school that has jumped through all the hoops and over all the hurdles is badly let down. The decision needs to be reversed and I impress upon the Minister of State the need to bring this back to the Minister for Education and Skills as a matter of urgency.

I will bring the Senator's strong representations to the Minister. I thank him for raising the issue. I know he feels very strongly about it.

The Seanad adjourned at 8.35 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 22 March 2012.
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