I move amendment No. 12:
In subsection (1), line 38, after " letters " to insert " and other stationery including circulars, showcards, catalogues used in or in connection with the business ".
This is another amendment about which I do not feel very strongly. The only amendment, in fact, about which I am prepared to fight is amendment No. 8 I think, however, it would be better to broaden it out a little.
I am prepared to go a little way with the Deputy but I doubt if it would be practicable in modern circumstances to require the names to be shown on showcards and catalogues. Certainly they should appear on letters, and I would be prepared, too, to include circulars.
You would go as far as circulars. It depends on what the circular is surely.
I think showcards should not be in it really. If one goes to the expense of sending out a formal catalogue it means that trading is to a large extent done on the catalogue by post rather than by personal contact and I think it should appear in catalogues.
It depends rather on the purpose.
The purpose in sending out a catalogue is to get mail order business.
I would be with the Deputy there. With regard to other types of routine publication, putting in a list of names like that can involve a good deal of space and a great deal of expense. The names are shown on letters. That is the normal practice.
Yes.
That is fair enough.
I am keener on catalogue than on anything because a catalogue means something substantial. It would not be a burden to include the information.
What is a trade catalogue?
A collection of circulars, if you like. A single sheet would not be a catalogue; it would be a circular. I am not very happy about my definition. I should have to refer to a dictionary. That is about the only thing I have in common with a certain famous person. I think a catalogue is a publication of sufficient importance and that it would not be putting an unduly onerous burden on those who produce it to give this information.
The wording in the amendment is all right. It is substantially the wording used in the 1916 Act which also referred to showcards. We decided that the inclusion of things other than letters created an undue burden on a business person; there was also the fact that it is not complied with to any great extent in relation to things like showcards and catalogues. I am quite prepared to go a long way with the Deputy, to the extent of including the word circulars and catalogue, but not showcards.
I am with the Minister there. It would be better not to put it in.
