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Dáil Éireann Debate, Thursday - 24 June 2004

Thursday, 24 June 2004

Questions (12, 13)

Trevor Sargent

Question:

10 Mr. Sargent asked the Minister for Foreign Affairs if he intends to raise the issue of the killing of soldiers (details supplied) on 18 April 1980 by a person (details supplied) who currently resides in the United States, if he will be taking all necessary steps to ensure that this man is brought to justice; his views on whether it is unacceptable for the United States to harbour the killer of Irish soldiers; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [18863/04]

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John Gormley

Question:

97 Mr. Gormley asked the Minister for Foreign Affairs if he intends to raise the issue of the killing of persons (details supplied) on 18 April 1980 by a person (details supplied) who currently resides in the United States; if he will take all necessary steps to ensure that this person is brought to justice; his views on whether it is unacceptable for the United States to harbour the killer of Irish soldiers; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [18930/04]

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Oral answers (3 contributions)

I propose to take Questions Nos. 10 and 97 together.

The killings of Private Thomas Barrett and Private Derek Smallhorne and the wounding of Private John O'Mahony in 1980 while they served with the United Nations Interim Force in the Lebanon were abhorrent crimes. The nation grieved for their loss and our sympathy for their loved ones has not diminished with the passage of time. The legal issues in this case have been reviewed on a number of occasions with a view to determining whether persons alleged to have committed these crimes could be brought to justice.

The Government has engaged in close consultation with the United States authorities on the question of bringing to justice the alleged perpetrator, who is understood to be resident in the US, and is a naturalised US citizen. The Deputy will understand that I am not in a position to go into detail. I can, however, assure him that the US authorities have been very helpful in the course of these consultations.

The question of seeking the extradition to the State for trial here of the alleged perpetrators of these crimes does not arise because the Irish courts do not have jurisdiction to try persons for acts such as these committed by non-nationals outside the State. An extradition request would therefore have to be made by the country where the crime was committed, namely, Lebanon, with a view to a criminal prosecution there.

As the Deputy will be aware, the Convention on the Safety of United Nations and Associated Personnel, which was inspired by the need to improve the level of protection of personnel such as Private Barrett and Private Smallhorne serving on UN missions, and to ensure the punishment of individuals who do not respect the mandate of UN peacekeepers, entered into force on 15 January 1999. The convention, however, does not apply retrospectively.

The Government will continue to explore such avenues as may be open to it to seek justice in this tragic case.

I thank the Minister for his reply. Can he understand the resentment many of our soldiers feel in providing protection for the President of the United States of America, Mr. George W. Bush, who is seen to be harbouring Mohammed Baze, the murderer of Privates Barrett and Smallhorne? Will the Minister be raising this issue with the American delegation at the weekend? It is something about which many of our soldiers feel very strongly. They feel this man is being protected by the United States for reasons of protecting its own interests in that area. Can the Minister understand not just the grief but the bitterness our soldiers are experiencing because of this?

Let me make it clear that in consultations with the American authorities we are getting full co-operation from them in dealing with this matter. I have set out the legal complexities involved. I do not see the parallels the Deputy suggests.

US law does not confer jurisdiction on the American courts for the trial of a non-national, as the alleged perpetrator then was, for murder or manslaughter of other non-nationals committed outside the United States. The Government has raised this issue with the Lebanese authorities and made clear the importance Ireland attaches to bringing to justice those responsible for these crimes. The Lebanese authorities have been helpful, while drawing attention to a number of practical difficulties, including but not confined to the assembly of evidence, given the passage of time.

Another complicating factor of which we have been made aware is the absence of an extradition treaty between the United States and Lebanon. These difficulties need to be overcome if a successful prosecution is to be brought in this case.

Written Answers follow Adjournment Debate.

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