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Dáil Éireann Debate, Thursday - 2 December 2004

Thursday, 2 December 2004

Questions (17)

Jan O'Sullivan

Question:

10 Ms O’Sullivan asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Health and Children the number of nursing posts unfilled at the latest date for which figures are available; if her attention has been drawn to warnings from the INO that the number of vacancies would rise to 2,000 over the next 18 months; the number of vacancies of ICU nurses; and the hospitals in which these exist; the number of nursing vacancies in accident and emergency departments; and the hospitals in which these exist; the steps that are being taken to deal with the shortage of nurses; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [31563/04]

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The most recent Health Service Employers Agency report of nursing vacancies reported that recruitment was well ahead of resignations and retirements. Employers reported that 794 vacancies existed at 30 September 2004. The vacancy rate now stands at 2.34%.

This could be considered to be a normal frictional rate given that there will always be some level of movement due to resignations, retirements and nurses availing of opportunities to change employment and location. The recruitment and retention of adequate numbers of nursing staff has been a concern of this Government for some time. A number of substantial measures have been introduced in recent years. The number of nursing training places has been increased by 70% since 1998. In excess of €85 million in revenue funding is being provided in 2005 for undergraduate nurse training. Nursing continues to be regarded as an attractive career. There were 8,300 CAO applications for 1,640 places in 2004.

My Department introduced a scheme of flexible working arrangements for nurses and midwives in February 2001. Under the scheme, individual nurses and midwives may apply to work between eight and 39 hours per week on a permanent, part-time basis. The promotional structure within nursing, including the introduction of a clinical career pathway, has been substantially improved on foot of the recommendations of the Commission on Nursing and the 1999 nurses' pay settlement. I am confident that the extensive range of measures outlined, including the substantial increase in training places, the recruitment of overseas nurses, the more effective utilisation of the professional skills of nurses and midwives in addition to close monitoring and assessment of the situation on an ongoing basis, will continue to prove effective in addressing the nursing workforce needs of the health services.

The lack of graduates will manifest itself towards the end of 2005. My Department is also in discussions with the interim health service executive on this matter. As there will be a cohort of graduates available by early autumn 2006, the problem has a relatively short life span. A working group representing health service employers and officials from my Department was established last April to examine the issue and provide advice to employers on addressing potential shortfalls. Workforce planners in each health board are liaising with directors of nursing and human resource managers to ensure that sufficient staffing resources are available during late 2005 to autumn 2006.

Is the Minister not being complacent about the situation? The vacancy rate is increasing despite all the measures introduced by Government and we are facing into a crisis in 2005. Is the Minister aware that the Irish Nursing Organisation predicts there will be 2,000 vacancies in the coming year as a result of the changes in training?

I have looked at the figures which the Minister kindly provided. Is she not concerned about the key tertiary hospital and its nursing complement? For example, Beaumont Hospital recruited 128.5 new staff and 131.9 resigned or retired from the system resulting in 85 vacancies. The pattern is similar at Our Lady's Children's Hospital in Crumlin where 93 were recruited and 83 retired or resigned leaving 54 vacancies. St. James's Hospital recruited 204 new staff and 359 retired or resigned resulting in more than 81 vacancies. These are the most important hospitals in terms of the role they play, not alone regionally but nationally, and they are experiencing severe nursing shortages. We all know there is no problem filling vacancies in the midlands. What is the Minister going to do about the problem in these particular hospitals where the problem is so acute it affects patient care?

A number of issues arise. A shortfall will arise between the end of autumn next year and 2006 as a result of training. The Government has made available €2 million for the recruitment of overseas nurses. That programme will soon be under way. We need also to examine the nurse-nurse assistant ratio which is 70:30 in Northern Ireland; 60:40 in the UK and is 87:13 in the Republic of Ireland. The ratios needs to be considered, particularly in terms of training for care assistants.

I will have a series of meetings next Monday with An Bord Altranais, the Irish Nursing Organisation and the nurses council on issues which affect nursing. Among the issues raised is the number of nurses emigrating. I recently spoke at a conference held by the INO and was surprised by the figures supplied in that regard. Having checked those figures, of the 2,146 individuals who left Ireland, only 827 were Irish nurses and 1,058 were Filipinos. A person wishing to practise nursing overseas must have verification from An Bord Altranais and it has only provided such verification to 827 people, many of whom have gone to Australia. Like others in the 20 to 35 year age group, many of them go to Australia for at least a year's experience, and that is not unusual. I hope most of them return.

There are many issues involved such as people constantly moving around. We need to use agency nurses. Approximately 1% of all nurses working in hospitals are agency related. We also need to undertake overseas recruitment from places such as the Philippines where nurses have a terrific track record and speak good English. We need to grow the number of people graduating from nursing and in that regard the Government has provided €85 million next year for nurse education.

Will the Minister deal with the issue of a city weighting? While problems are being experienced in Cork, it is particularly a Dublin problem.

Is that in relation to salaries?

Yes, it is in terms of the high cost of living which nurses must endure and which deters them from living in the capital city.

While issues arise in this regard, they apply to other professions such as teachers, gardaí, civil servants and others.

They are not the Minister's responsibility.

Some countries make allowances for those living in the capital but we have not yet explored the issue in terms of public service recruitment policies in Ireland.

Question No. 11 answered with QuestionNo. 8.

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