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Dáil Éireann Debate, Wednesday - 9 July 2008

Wednesday, 9 July 2008

Questions (13)

Joanna Tuffy

Question:

40 Deputy Joanna Tuffy asked the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government the position regarding proposals for carbon credits on flights by Government Ministers and officials; the way the amount to be spent on carbon credits for each flight will be calculated; the flights for which they will be purchased; the person from whom they will be purchased; the environmental purposes the money will be used for; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [27807/08]

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Oral answers (22 contributions)

In response to the programme for Government and the national climate change strategy commitments to introduce a carbon offsetting scheme for air travel on Government business, including flights by Ministers and civil servants, I have developed the principles of a scheme which will operate on an annual basis starting in 2008. I am currently finalising the necessary logistical and administrative arrangements.

The offsetting scheme will require each official flight to and from Ireland to be recorded, and the carbon dioxide emissions calculated based on the total air miles or kilometres travelled. The offsetting cost will be determined on the basis of a carbon price which will be set by my Department each year to reflect the average price in the voluntary offsetting market. The value of the total offsetting requirement each year will be invested on behalf of Ireland by the Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency Partnership, REEEP, in small scale "gold standard" energy efficiency and renewable energy offsetting projects in Ireland's priority least-developed countries.

The scheme will apply to all Departments and offices and will cover all flights by Ministers and officials on both commercial airlines and Government passenger aircraft. It will also apply to bodies under the aegis of Departments and it will be a matter for individual Departments to decide which bodies are to be included. The scheme will be optimal in terms of administrative efficiency and accountability, and will have the added advantage of increasing awareness of the global warming implications of air travel among official travellers and their Departments and offices. The scheme will retrospectively account for all official air travel since this Government came into office in June 2007. I believe the Government scheme sets an important example in terms of a very practical step which air travellers can take to minimise their carbon dioxide emissions.

Those are the first proper details I have had of the scheme. I was very interested in what the Minister said. The money will be given to a company called REEEP which will invest it in renewable energy in the least developed countries——

It will be invested in countries in which we have projects.

That is the problem with this type of scheme and has been identified by a number of people including Friends of the Earth. The Minister says we will keep doing what we are doing, putting out our emissions, and let the least developed countries take the brunt of reducing emissions. They can have renewable energy but they cannot have the technology we have. It is all to make the Green Party look good because it brought in carbon offsets, although it did not reduce emissions but got the Third World to do it for us instead. That is the gist of what the Minister said. I am very sceptical about this type of initiative. The Minister would do better to put more buses on the road. If he spent that €400,000 on extra buses for Bus Éireann and Dublin Bus or whoever, I would not be sceptical. This is all about appearances, like all the other Green Party initiatives. We will have our consciences eased about flying or driving in our big cars and let the Third World take the brunt of it. We will not let them have the development we have. They will take the brunt of this while we feel good about ourselves.

Deputy Tuffy must ask a question.

These companies are not regulated. I do not include the company the Minister mentioned because I do not know anything about it, but Friends of the Earth has raised many issues around this. These companies are not regulated and we do not know what will happen to the money. It is a load of nonsense.

That was a wonderful question. I do not even know what the question was. The Deputy mentioned the "brunt". Friends of the Earth supports this scheme.

No, it does not. Friends of the Earth in Ireland does not.

REEEP is a "gold standard" company. I met its representatives in Bali. It is sometimes difficult to understand what Deputy Tuffy says. What is the Labour Party's position on this? Her colleague, Deputy Burton, has raised this issue time and again on the Order of Business, asking the Government when it would introduce this scheme. I got the clear impression the Labour Party was waiting for us to introduce this. Now it appears the Labour Party is opposed to this. This is "gold standard" offsetting. Deputy Tuffy should listen to people such as Mr. Al Gore, who clearly said it does not matter where one reduces carbon as long as it is reduced. That is the principle behind the European scheme. One puts a cap on emissions and decides to reduce them. Would the Deputy prefer that we do nothing? This is the practice of most progressive Governments, and now that the Green Party is in government, we have a very progressive Government.

Good man John. The Minister should not get carried away.

Friends of the Earth in the UK argue that supporting carbon offsetting companies could delay laws being put in place to set targets for everybody to cut carbon emissions. Is the Minister aware of that information on the Friends of the Earth website?

I am very aware of it.

Why not put more buses on the road? The Minister is letting the Government away with murder regarding buses. The Department of Transport is making people take buses off the road, and then the Government is paying this out to some other country.

That would be a good question for the Minister for Transport.

I was not aware that we are letting people away with murder, but that is Deputy Tuffy's assessment.

I spoke metaphorically.

I went to quite some difficulty to ensure this measure got through Government.

That is because the Minister could not get anything else.

It is "gold standard" offsetting. We can be quite assured that the people involved in these projects are only too delighted to get renewable energy such as solar power put into their villages.

Maybe they would like electricity and water.

I am very disappointed the Labour Party is opposed to progressive measures such as this, which will assist the most vulnerable people on our planet.

It is all cosmetic.

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