Dáil Éireann Debate, Thursday - 4 December 2008
180 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Waterford was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use, if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44419/08]
View answer181 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Wexford was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44420/08]
View answer182 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Monaghan was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44421/08]
View answer183 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Meath was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44422/08]
View answer184 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Kerry was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44423/08]
View answer185 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Limerick was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44424/08]
View answer186 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44425/08]
View answer187 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Wicklow was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership. [44426/08]
View answer188 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Wicklow was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44427/08]
View answer189 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44428/08]
View answer190 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Limerick was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44429/08]
View answer191 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Limerick was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44430/08]
View answer192 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44431/08]
View answer193 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Waterford was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44432/08]
View answer194 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Waterford was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44433/08]
View answer195 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Kilkenny was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44434/08]
View answer196 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Kerry was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44435/08]
View answer197 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Kerry was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44436/08]
View answer198 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Kerry was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44437/08]
View answer199 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Kerry was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44438/08]
View answer200 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Cork was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44439/08]
View answer201 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Cork was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44440/08]
View answer202 Deputy Ruairí Quinn asked the Minister for Education and Science when a property (details supplied) in County Cork was transferred to the ownership of the State in accordance with the indemnity agreement reached with the religious congregations in 2002; if it has since been sold; if so, the amount it was sold for; if he will clarify its status and use if it is in State ownership; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [44441/08]
View answerI propose to take Questions Nos. 180 to 202, inclusive, together.
Under the terms of the Indemnity Agreement reached with the Religious Congregations on 5th June 2002, the Congregations agreed to make a contribution of €128 million towards the cost of the Redress Scheme. This sum was broken down as follows:
Property Transfers €76.86m;
Cash Contribution €41.14m;
Provision of Counselling Services €10m.
In actual terms, whilst the overall figure of €128 million has not altered, the form in which it has or is to be transferred to the State has altered somewhat in terms of the property and cash contributions. This is because the Indemnity Agreement allows for cash to be substituted for property. The composition of the €128 million has changed to the following:
Property Transfers €66m;
Cash Contribution €052m;
Provision of Counselling Services €10m.
I can confirm that the full cash contribution of €52m has been received, including that which was accepted in lieu of properties. My Department has also received confirmation that the contributing congregations have provided counselling services to the value of €10m.
As a result of the Indemnity Agreement, my Department agreed in principle with CORI that a total of 64 properties would be accepted, subject to good and marketable title and agreed valuations. Valuations of the individual properties were fully agreed and fixed at 2002 values.
I wish to advise the Deputy that all of the legal formalities have been completed in the case of 21 of the properties transferring under the terms of 0the Indemnity Agreement. Details of these properties are attached.
In the case of the remaining properties, until such time as the matter is fully resolved, the valuations and other information pertaining to the individual properties is of a commercially sensitive nature and the release of such information may have a detrimental effect on the State's ability to secure Title to any outstanding properties. I am therefore not currently in a position to release valuations of these properties until such time as the whole property issue is fully completed.
Given the complex and time consuming nature of property transfers, it is difficult to state with any degree of certainty when the entire portfolio of property will be fully and finally transferred to the State. It is regrettable that the process for the final transfer of some of these properties is not yet completed. However, I am anxious to point out that whilst the legal formalities have not been finalised in all cases, in the vast majority of the properties, good and marketable title has been fully established or the properties have been physically transferred to and are in possession of the State or 3rd Parties.
In a small number of cases, consideration may have to be given to accepting an alternative property or cash where good and marketable title cannot be established. This has recently occurred in the case of one of the 64 properties where my Department accepted cash in lieu of a property where good and marketable title could not be established. Properties to the value of €26.79m have been fully transferred and a further €7.475m worth of properties have been handed over where the legal arrangements are almost finalised. This leaves a balance of properties valued at €31.735 where the legal transfer remains to be completed. In the case of all of these latter properties, with the exception of two, the properties are in use or are available for use by the transferee.
The properties were accepted in principle by my Department following receipt of confirmation from relevant Government Departments and State Agencies that it would be to their advantage to accept title to the particular property. The current or future use of these properties is a matter for each of the transferees. In relation to properties accepted in principle by my Department, these will be used to develop school provision.
I should also point out that, under the terms of the Indemnity Agreement, property transferring to voluntary organisations are subject to a restriction on transfer or alienation for a period of 21 years without the prior consent in writing of the Minister for Finance.
Every effort will continue to be made by officials of my Department through the State's legal representatives along with the legal representatives of the congregations and by direct contact with the interested parties to ensure that all outstanding issues are finalised.
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€ |
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Doon |
640,000.00 |
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St Coleman’s Rushbrook |
571,380.00 |
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Playing Field Carna |
175,000.00 |
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Secondary School & Site, Ennistymon |
980,000.00 |
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Mohill Community School Site |
520,000.00 |
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Terenure Secondary School |
4,500,000.00 |
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Site at Merrion |
8,900,000.00 |
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Two Properties at Tuam |
3,020,000.00 |
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Nursery Buildings Goldenbridge |
570,000.00 |
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24 Westcourt Tralee |
184,110.00 |
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Site at Glenamaddy |
600,000.00 |
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11 Acre Site at Virginia Road, Kells |
825,000.00 |
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Deenagh House, Killarney |
215,265.00 |
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St Anne’s Secondary School |
2,600,000.00 |
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28 The Woodlands |
270,000.00 |
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Vacant Buildings and Land at Rathdrum |
349,200.00 |
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Gate Lodge, Goldenbridge |
220,000.00 |
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1 Garravogue Road, Raheen, Co Limerick |
228,550.00 |
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23 Woodlea, Tralee, Co Kerry |
152,370.00 |
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Cloughmacsimon* |
101,600.00 |
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Goldenbridge Group Homes |
1,269,700.00 |
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26,892,175.00 |
*Cash received in lieu of property.
