As the Deputy will be aware, notwithstanding the fact that the State is a significant shareholder in Permanent TSB, that institution is run on a commercial basis and I do not have a role in the day to day commercial decisions taken by the board and management of Permanent TSB, including in respect of the employment of external consultants and advisors. Separately, I am informed by Permanent TSB that it cannot disclose the fees paid (either to the consultancy firm whose details were supplied or to any other consultant) as arrangements entered into with individual firms are commercially sensitive. Permanent TSB has informed me that fees paid to consultants are subject to appropriate governance, including board approval where applicable.