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Defence Forces Reorganisation

Dáil Éireann Debate, Tuesday - 13 December 2016

Tuesday, 13 December 2016

Questions (31)

Noel Grealish

Question:

31. Deputy Noel Grealish asked the Taoiseach and Minister for Defence the reason soldiers from Finner Camp in County Donegal are being transported to Dublin and soldiers from Galway are being transported to Cork every day to carry out duties; the costs involved of these movements in terms of transport and soldier’s time; his views on whether the reorganisation of the Defence Forces into a two brigade structure has been a success; his views on whether the reorganisation has left Ireland exposed in view of Brexit, should a managed Border become necessary; and his views on whether the reorganisation has been a significant factor in the poor findings from the Defence Forces climate survey 2015. [40201/16]

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Will the Minister of State explain why soldiers from Finner Camp in Donegal are being transported to Dublin and soldiers from Galway are being transported to Cork every day to carry out their duties? Will he provide cost details to the House of these movements in terms of transport and soldiers' time? Does the Minister of State accept that the reorganisation of the Defence Forces into a two brigade structure has been an unmitigated disaster?

The re-organisation of the Defence Forces, finalised in October 2012, resulted in a fundamental restructuring of Army formations and units throughout the country, including the closure of a number of operational posts. This was undertaken to enhance operational readiness and deployability while reducing the number of personnel involved in administration. The reorganisation led to a reconfiguration of the Defence Forces operational processes from a garrison-based system to a more flexible, deployable system that makes more efficient use of all resources, including personnel.

I have been advised by the military authorities that, for the most part, personnel are only deployed within their own brigade area. However, on occasion, personnel from Donegal, for example, have been redeployed for security operations to other locations, including Dublin, which is a key centre for large-scale operations and ceremonial activities for the Defence Forces. It is important that military personnel have experience of the full range of duties required of members of the Defence Forces in situations where they may be called upon to reinforce operations in different parts of the country. This requires their deployment to locations where they can gain such experience.

The Defence Forces operate in the most cost effective manner possible. Costs associated with the transport of personnel are included in the funds allocated to the military through the budgetary process and the reorganisation has not resulted in any excessive additional costs being incurred.

Primary responsibility for the internal security of the State rests with the Department of Justice and Equality and An Garda Síochána. Control of Ireland’s borders, which is primarily a security matter, falls to An Garda Síochána and, in respect of its responsibilities, to the customs service of the Revenue Commissioners. It is premature at this juncture to anticipate the detailed implications of the result of the UK referendum. While it is reasonable to engage in prudent planning, the fact of a British exit from the EU does not, of itself, give rise to additional border security requirements at this time.

Additional information not given on the floor of the House

The key findings of the climate survey are grouped under topics such as work-life balance, peer support, organisational justice within the organisation, procedural justice, organisational fairness, Defence Forces integrity and supervisory justice. The University of Limerick researchers who undertook the project point out that the findings of the report and the recommendations are interconnected and that caution should apply to reading or responding to any one particular finding in isolation. The University of Limerick is engaged in further work on the climate survey, engaging with personnel across all ranks and formations. This process will provide a greater understanding of the issues identified in the climate survey.

The following deferred reply was received under Standing Order 42A:

I refer to the above and the Deputy's supplementary question concerning vacancies in the Naval Service.

Based on the most recent figures available (Naval Service strengths at 31 December 2016) there are currently 39 vacancies at Officer level in the Naval Service: 32 of those vacancies are at the rank of Captain and the remaining seven (7) at the rank of Lieutenant.

There are currently 22 Naval Service Cadets in training and it is envisaged that 15 applicants from the 2017 Cadet competition will he inducted to the Naval Service in September 2017. Additionally, the Defence Forces also launched a competition in September 2016 to Naval Service Direct Entry Officers in order to address the short term manpower deficiencies in both the Operations and Engineering Branches. It is planned to commission the first successful applicants from these rolling Direct Entry competitions in Q1 of 2017.

I trust this information will be of use.

I thank the Minister of State for his reply. Is he aware of the difficulties being experienced by members of the Defence Forces? At present, the Naval Service is short 38 staffing officers. One of our naval vessels was unable to put to sea because no engineering officer was available. Soldiers are having difficulty accessing basic items such as replacement uniforms. Last month I heard of a soldier who had to buy a pair of boots because a new pair could not be issued to him locally.

In light of Brexit, does the Minister of State accept that the reorganisation of the Defence Forces has left Ireland exposed, should a managed Border become necessary? Does he also accept that the reorganisation was a significant factor in the negative findings of the Defence Forces climate survey of 2015?

First, I commend the Defence Forces on conducting the aforementioned detailed survey of members. The findings of the survey are very interesting. In conjunction with the Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces, my Department is making sure that issues raised in the climate survey affecting members of Óglaigh na hÉireann are addressed.

I am not aware of personnel not being able to get parts of their uniforms. If there are such cases, I would like to hear about them.

The Deputy referred to personnel having to travel from barracks to barracks or from where they live to a barracks that may not be in their locality. Bearing in mind the brigade structure, I have asked that when recruit classes are being taken in, personnel be located in the barracks closest to where they live. That will solve a considerable number of the problems. A considerable number of problems arose after the reorganisation. We are trying to solve them and relocate personnel to the barracks closest to where they live. For personnel with expertise in specific areas, it does not always work that way.

Has it been brought to the attention of the Minister of State that a naval vessel could not be put to sea because there was no engineering officer available? Is it true that there are 38 officer staff vacancies in the Naval Service? If the Minister of State does not have this information to hand, he might be able to send it to me on another occasion.

I am not aware of a ship not being able to go to sea because of an issue associated with engineering personnel. There are vacancies at present for officers. I will revert to the Deputy with the exact number. We have the biggest cadet class, including members of the Air Corps, Naval Service and the Army. One hundred personnel in the junior cadet class started in September 2016. This will address a number of the issues associated with officers. This shows the commitment of the Government regarding the officer corps within the Defence Forces.

The Deputy referred to Brexit and the Border. That will be a matter for the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Francis Fitzgerald. Where there is a call to aid the civil power, it will be matter for the Department of Justice and Equality to assess the circumstances after Brexit.

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