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Schools Building Projects

Dáil Éireann Debate, Wednesday - 25 October 2017

Wednesday, 25 October 2017

Questions (45)

Bernard Durkan

Question:

45. Deputy Bernard J. Durkan asked the Minister for Education and Skills the extent to which the school building programme requirements at primary and second level have been identified in all areas throughout the country with particular reference to immediate requirements in the next 12 months; the extent to which he expects to meet such requirements within the specified period and in line with requirements as set out by the various school authorities; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [45006/17]

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Oral answers (6 contributions)

This question relates to the extent to which the Minister expects to be able to meet the building programme requirements in all schools throughout the country, at primary and second level, with particular reference to the most urgently challenged areas from a demographic point of view.

We had a similar discussion earlier when I dealt with Deputy Thomas Byrne's question. I am absolutely confident that we are in a position to meet the demands of the expanding population. We are very fortunate to have a situation where, since 2011, there is a requirement to complete provision for 105,000 school places over a seven to eight-year period. We are well on track to deliver those in accordance with the needs. That creates pressure on our budgets and 80% of our budgets have had to be devoted to the provision of additional places. The rate of provision is a substantial 14,000 to 15,000 new places every year and about 4,000 replacement school places. That is double what was occurring in 2010 and it has been steadily increasing.

In the recent review of capital funding, we got an allocation of an additional €322 million for the school sector. That will allow us to sustain the progress in this area. To give the Deputy an example of the delivery, we have had 170 entirely new schools since 2011 and 120 major expansions. We are making a very substantial investment right across the country. That is happening in light of our having a growing school population. Initially, the focus was very much on the primary sector but now it is moving into a very expanded programme at second level.

I thank the Minister for his comprehensive reply. What is the degree to which his Department can avail of modern building techniques with a view to making economic sense and also having regard to the need to ensure buildings are of lifetime duration rather than the temporary prefabricated buildings to which we had become accustomed over the years? What is the degree to which he expects that modular building programme to develop over the next number of years?

The Deputy has probably visited a number of sites. We are building phenomenal schools. They are impressive buildings. We have been using not only the build model by the Department through direct acquisition of design but also public private partnerships. Different approaches have been used. The Department is very much on top of modern building methods. That is not to say we cannot improve. One of the sectors where we have had least productivity growth in recent years has been in construction, perhaps for understandable reasons. With the advent of technology, no doubt there are new opportunities. They are certainly opportunities to become much more efficient, energy efficient in particular. My Department is very alert to the obligations of moving towards highly energy-efficient buildings in its programme.

Is the Minister satisfied that the most urgently required replacement schools are likely to be delivered at an early date or within a given time, given that during the period of the downturn in the economy it was not always possible to attend to those with the degree of urgency that they would have ordinarily required?

We had an earlier debate on this. We have a pipeline system and when cases are deemed urgent, they go into the pipeline. That can be a frustrating process. Site issues, planning issues and design issues can arise. We have probably 100 projects on the go all the time and many in the pipeline coming through. We can get instances such as the one we spoke about earlier where we can get hiccups in the process and something that would be perceived as urgent is nonetheless delayed for planning or site reasons. We do the very best to avoid that. We make sure that not a cent is wasted. We never give money back to the Department of Finance unspent at the end of the year because we make sure we have enough projects of a quality, that are well designed and shovel ready to make sure we spend every penny we get. I am confident the system works, but that is not to say I will not be looking to see if can we improve it as we move ahead.

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