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Thursday, 15 Nov 2018

Written Answers Nos. 197-216

Wage Subsidy Scheme

Questions (197)

Joe Carey

Question:

197. Deputy Joe Carey asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection when a wage subsidy scheme application by a person (details suppled) will issue; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47501/18]

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Written answers

The wage subsidy scheme (WSS) is an employment support to private sector employers. The scheme provides financial incentives to private sector employers to hire people with a disability for between 21 and 39 hours per week under a contract of employment.

The objective of the wage subsidy scheme (WSS) is to increase the likelihood of people with disabilities participating in the open labour market by making available a subsidy to private sector employers. The scheme operates by allowing employers to claim a subsidy, subject to certain conditions, against the cost of a ‘shortfall’ in productivity which may arise where a jobseeker (who has a disability) is employed.

My Department is considering the details of the application and will reply directly to the Deputy as a matter of urgency.

Illness Benefit Payments

Questions (198)

Brendan Griffin

Question:

198. Deputy Brendan Griffin asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection when illness payment arrears will issue to a person (details supplied) in County Kerry; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47515/18]

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Written answers

Illness Benefit arrears due to the person concerned have now been calculated and processed and they will issue to him early next week.

I trust this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Illness Benefit Waiting Times

Questions (199)

Fiona O'Loughlin

Question:

199. Deputy Fiona O'Loughlin asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the status of the delays in the processing of new and existing illness benefit claims; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47517/18]

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Written answers

My Department transferred administration of the Illness Benefit scheme to its core Business Objects IT platform in August 2018. Although the system change has worked effectively for over 80% of IB customers, significant difficulties arose following implementation for a number of customers.

My Department is taking three main steps to resolve the issues impacting on payments. First, we have deployed additional staff to process the tasks and respond to the customer enquiries. Second, we have developed some new IT processes that address the payment gap issues and to ensure a faster flow-through to payments. Third, we are reviewing the design rules in the system to afford greater flexibility in processing of claims and certificates.

Payment volumes were restored to normal levels last week and my officials are monitoring them on a daily basis to ensure that they remain at this level. Any further issues that may arise will be dealt with as they are identified. In addition to these system issues, the Department acknowledges that it did not communicate effectively with customers.

In order to ensure that we learn from the lessons of this experience, I have arranged for an independent review into how the changes to IB were planned, implemented and – importantly – communicated to customers. I expect this work to be completed by the end of the year.

Finally, I would like to sincerely apologise again for the difficulties and frustration experienced by customers who did not receive the correct IB payment or who experienced delays in their payments over the last few weeks.

Carer's Allowance Appeals

Questions (200)

Michael Healy-Rae

Question:

200. Deputy Michael Healy-Rae asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the status of a carer's allowance application by a person (details supplied); and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47524/18]

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Written answers

Carer's allowance (CA) is a means-tested social assistance payment made to a person who is habitually resident in the State and who is providing full-time care and attention to a child or an adult who has such a disability that as a result they require that level of care. Where the child is under the age of 16, CA cannot be awarded unless a domiciliary care allowance (DCA) is in payment in respect of the child.

An application for CA was received from the person concerned in November 2017 in respect of two children. As DCA was not in payment in respect of one of the children, CA was awarded in respect of only one child.

The person concerned has requested a review of this decision. As DCA has since been awarded in respect of the child in question, CA was awarded to the person concerned on 12 November 2018 and the first payment will issue to their nominated bank account on 22 November 2018.

As the person concerned owes a debt to the Department in respect of CA previously paid while they were working in excess of 15 hours per week, arrears of allowance due from 15 June 2017 to 21 November 2018, less outstanding debt, will also issue to their bank account. The person concerned was notified of this on 12 November 2018.

I hope this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Illness Benefit Payments

Questions (201)

Seán Sherlock

Question:

201. Deputy Sean Sherlock asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection when a person (details supplied) in County Kildare will receive illness benefit. [47535/18]

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Written answers

The Illness Benefit claim for the person concerned is paid up to date. He is certified to 31st January 2019 and so his normal payment should issue weekly to that date.

I trust this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Disability Allowance Payments

Questions (202)

Clare Daly

Question:

202. Deputy Clare Daly asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection if her attention has been drawn to the fact that a person (details supplied) is in receipt of a disability allowance; if her attention has been further drawn to the fact that the person received a partial increase of €37 in October 2017 when his partner joined a community employment scheme; if her attention has been further drawn to the fact that the allowance was reduced by €130 from 22 October 2018 when the person's partner completed participation in the community employment scheme and became eligible for jobseeker's allowance; the reason the payment of disability allowance was reduced by €130; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47548/18]

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Written answers

The rate of Disability Allowance (DA) in payment to this gentleman increased in 2017 as he was awarded an increase for qualified adult (IQA) in respect of his partner.

From 17 October 2018, his partner become eligible for a payment in their own right which means IQA is no longer payable on his DA claim. This gentleman is now in receipt of full rate DA payment from 17 October 2018. All arrears due issued to this gentleman on 12 November 2018

I trust this clarifies the matter for the Deputy

State Pension (Contributory)

Questions (203)

Róisín Shortall

Question:

203. Deputy Róisín Shortall asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the position of workers who will retire in 2020 at 65 years of age but will not be entitled to a contributory pension until 67 years of age; if they will have an entitlement to jobseeker's payment between their retirement and pension entitlement age; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47552/18]

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Written answers

The Social Welfare and Pensions Act 2011 provided that State pension age will be increased gradually to 68 years. This began in January 2014 with the abolition of the State pension (transition) which was available to people aged 65 who satisfied the qualifying conditions. This measure standardised the State pension age for all at 66 years. This will increase to 67 in 2021 and to 68 in 2028.

In most cases, it is hoped that workers will continue to work up to State pension age. Where this is not possible, there are specific measures which apply to someone claiming Jobseeker’s Benefit from a date after their 65th birthday. Where qualified, these recipients may continue to be eligible for that payment until reaching pension age, subject to the relevant criteria.

It is well known that people are living for much longer. Life expectancy at birth has increased significantly over the years – and is now at 78.4 years for men and 82.8 years for women. This is very positive. As a result of this demographic change, the number of State pension recipients is increasing year on year. This has significant implications for the future costs of State pension provision which are currently increasing by close to €1 billion every 5 years. The purpose of changes to the State pension age is to make the pension system more sustainable in the context of increasing life expectancy. This sustainability is vital, if the current workers, who fund State pension payments through their PRSI, are to receive a pension themselves when they reach retirement age.

The Deputy should note that there is no legally mandated retirement age in the State, and the age at which employees retire is a matter for the contract of employment between them and their employers. While such a contract may have been entered into with a retirement date of 65, in the context of the previous State pension arrangements, there is no legal impediment to the employer and employee agreeing to increase the duration of employment for one or more years, if both parties wish to do so.

I hope this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Community Employment Schemes Administration

Questions (204)

Robert Troy

Question:

204. Deputy Robert Troy asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the caps that have recently been put in place regarding the number of community employment workers who may be employed on a project. [47557/18]

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Written answers

Work schemes such as Community Employment (CE) are positive initiatives that enable the long-term unemployed to make a contribution to their communities whilst up-skilling themselves for prospective future employment. This scheme helps to break the cycle of unemployment and improve a person’s chances of returning to the labour market.

CE schemes are typically sponsored by groups (known as sponsors) wishing to benefit the local community. My Department agrees participant numbers annually with each CE sponsor organisation who are responsible for the recruitment of participants and for identifying suitable work placements.

The CE scheme has a budget to support approximately 21,900 participant places in 2018 and 21,500 places in 2019. At the end of October, there was a total of 21,243 participants on the scheme.

I trust this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Domiciliary Care Allowance Appeals

Questions (205)

Pat Breen

Question:

205. Deputy Pat Breen asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the status of an application by a person (details supplied); and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47560/18]

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Written answers

An application for Domiciliary Care Allowance was received from the person concerned on the 25th May 2018. The application was not allowed as the child was not considered to satisfy the qualifying conditions for the allowance. A letter issued on the 21st August 2018 setting out the decision of the deciding officer to refuse the allowance.

A review of this decision was requested on the 24th August 2018 and an appeal was also submitted on the 30th August 2018. Further medical evidence that was received in support of the review has been referred to the Department's Medical Assessor for their medical opinion. When this is received the claim will be re-examined by a deciding officer and a revised decision will be made if warranted. Alternatively, the case will be referred for consideration by the Social Welfare Appeals Office. The person concerned will be notified of the outcome of the deciding officer's review as soon as possible.

I hope this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Employment Rights

Questions (206, 208)

Róisín Shortall

Question:

206. Deputy Róisín Shortall asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the number of cases of alleged bogus self-employment that were substantiated when reported to and examined by the SCOPE section of her Department and subsequently overturned on appeal by the Social Welfare Appeals Office in each of the past five years by industry; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47572/18]

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Róisín Shortall

Question:

208. Deputy Róisín Shortall asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the number of cases of alleged bogus self-employment that were substantiated when reported to and examined by the SCOPE section in each of the past five years by industry; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47580/18]

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Written answers

I propose to take Questions Nos. 206 and 208 together.

The Department’s Scope section makes in excess of 1,000 employment status determinations each year covering a range of issues including directors of companies, family employments, partnerships and public sector employments. Cases are not categorised by industry.

The number of cases involving a direct conflict of employment or self-employment status is relatively small.

In 2017 Scope section made 138 decisions resulting in a class A employment decision. Of these, 35 could be described as disputed employment/self-employment cases.

In the current year they have made 113 decisions resulting in a class A employment decision of which 27 could be described as disputed employment/self-employment cases. The table below gives the figures for the last five years.

Table 1.

Year

Total decisions

Total No. class A (employee)

No. of employee/self-employed cases

2013

1552

205

13

2014

1275

209

50

2015

1061

188

41

2016

1027

138

28

2017

1097

138

35

2018 to date

1049

113

27

In instances of dispute as to the correct employment status, Scope records the determination made but does not designate cases as “bogus self-employed” as it is not correct to describe all cases in which a person is deemed to be an employee rather than self-employed as “bogus self-employment”.

Following a Scope decision, the employer will be liable for class A PRSI for the full period of employment. This can be a significant penalty for a business. Most employers cooperate fully with the Department’s inspectors in insuring compliance following a Scope decision. Where they fail to comply then additional measures, including prosecution, can be brought to bear.

Regarding the number of cases overturned on appeal, the table below shows the total number of Scope decisions each year and the number that are appealed.

Table 2.

Percentage of Scope decisions that are appealed 2013-2018

Year

Total decisions

Total No. appealed

% of decisions appealed

2013

1552

73

4.70

2014

1275

75

5.88

2015

1061

101

9.52

2016

1027

52

5.06

2017

1097

83

7.57

2018 to date

1049

55

5.24

Table 3 below outlines the result of appeals in respect of Scope cases. This includes all Scope appeals. It is not possible to provide figures specific to cases involving bogus self-employment.

Table 3.

SCOPE appeal outcomes 2013-2018 (to end of October)

Allowed

%

Part allowed

%

Revised

%

Disallowed

%

Withdrawn

%

Total

2013

14

20.9

0

0.0

4

6.0

43

64.2

6

9.0

67

2014

13

11.2

4

3.4

20

17.2

62

53.4

17

14.7

116

2015

20

18.7

0

0.0

5

4.7

71

66.4

11

10.3

107

2016

30

21.6

4

2.9

20

14.4

72

51.8

13

9.4

139

2017

34

24.5

4

2.9

11

7.9

37

26.6

53

38.1

139

2018

22

28.9

2

2.6

3

3.9

39

51.3

10

13.2

76

Totals

119

20.6

14

2.4

59

10.2

281

48.7

104

18.0

577

As can be seen, approximately one fifth of appeals of Scope cases are upheld and approximately half are rejected. Those that are “revised” are revised by the original Deciding Officer in Scope section on foot of additional information.

In conclusion, 5-10% of Scope decisions are appealed each year, and of these, approximately 20% are overturned on appeal.

[Note: the numbers of appeals in the two tables are not the same for each year. Table 2 is the number of cases sent for appeal that year; Table 3 is the number of appeal decisions made that year.]

Employment Rights

Questions (207)

Róisín Shortall

Question:

207. Deputy Róisín Shortall asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the number of prosecutions she has sought against employers that have been found to have been employing workers on bogus self-employment contracts in each of the past five years; the number of cases that were successfully prosecuted each year; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47573/18]

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Written answers

My Department’s Scope Section makes in excess of 1,000 employment status determinations each year covering a range of issues including directors of companies, family employments, partnerships and public sector employments.

The number of cases involving a direct conflict of employment or self-employment status is relatively small.

In 2017, Scope Section made 138 decisions resulting in a class A employment decision. Of these, 35 could be described as disputed employment/self-employment cases.

In the current year, they have made 113 decisions resulting in a class A employment decision, of which 27 could be described as disputed employment/self-employment cases.

In instances of dispute as to the correct employment status, Scope Section records the determination made but does not designate cases as “bogus self-employed” as it is not correct to describe all cases in which a person is deemed to be an employee - rather than self-employed - as “bogus self-employment”.

Following a Scope decision, the employer will be liable for class A PRSI for the full period of employment. This can be a significant penalty for a business. Most employers co-operate fully with the Department’s inspectors in insuring compliance following a Scope decision. Where they fail to comply then additional measures, including prosecution, can be brought to bear.

The Department considers for prosecution all persons who defraud the social welfare system and employers who fail to carry out statutory obligations under the Social Welfare Acts.

Cases referred to the Department's Central Prosecution Service (CPS) for consideration of prosecution are examined using the principles established by the Director of Public Prosecutions. If the CPS is satisfied that a prosecution should be pursued, a brief is prepared and submitted for authorisation to prosecute and it will be referred to the Chief State Solicitor’s Office for distribution to a State Solicitor. A prosecution may not be considered necessary if the issue has been resolved successfully.

From 2014 to date, prosecution proceedings have been taken in 21 cases where an employer failed to comply with statutory obligations. The offences related to employers who have failed to remit PRSI, to provide records, to produce records, or failed to maintain records.

Eighteen cases of this nature were finalised in the same period. A further 12 cases are under the examination in my Department for consideration of prosecution. A breakdown is provided in table I below.

An employer/employee may also be prosecuted if they are found to obstruct a Social Welfare Inspector in the course of their duties. Seven cases of this nature were prosecuted between 2014 to date and 7 were finalised in the same period. A breakdown is provided in table II below

Statistics regarding employer/employee prosecutions are collated on the basis of the alleged offence and not on the specifics of the cases. Therefore, there are no records held on the number of prosecutions that may relate to bogus self- employment.

I hope this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Table I

2014

2015

2016

2017

End Oct 2018

IN9 – Failure to remit PRSI

5

3

1

0

0

IN28 - Failure to provide records

1

2

1

0

0

IN 32 Failure to produce records

4

2

0

0

0

Failure to maintain records

1

1

0

0

0

Total

11

8

2

0

0

Cases Finalised

4

6

4

2

2

Table II

2014

2015

2016

2017

End October 2018

Employer Obstruction

1

2

0

1

0

Employee Obstruction

0

0

2

0

1

Total

1

2

2

1

1

Obstruction cases finalised

0

2

2

1

2

Question No. 208 answered with Question No. 206.

Money Advice and Budgeting Service Funding

Questions (209)

Róisín Shortall

Question:

209. Deputy Róisín Shortall asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the amount of funding provided to the Money Advice and Budgeting Service in each of the past ten years; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47581/18]

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Written answers

The Money Advice and Budgeting Service (MABS), under the aegis of the Citizens Information Board, since 2009, assists people who are over-indebted and need help and advice in coping with debt problems, in particular those on low incomes and people living on social welfare payments.

The role of MABS has expanded in recent years. In 2015 the Dedicated Mortgage Arrears (DMA MABS) service was established in MABS specifically to help people in mortgage arrears. Since mid-2016 MABS is the gateway to the Abhaile suite of services which aims to help mortgage holders in long term arrears to find the best solutions and keep them wherever possible, in their own homes.

Annual funding is provided by the Citizens Information Board to the MABS services, which are now organised on a regional basis.

The Money Advice and Budgeting Service also includes MABS National Development (ND) and National Traveller MABS.

MABS (ND) provides central support services to the MABS companies, including technical support for casework, money management, education and training and is also responsible for the national MABS Helpline.

National Traveller MABS (NTMABS) highlights issues of over-indebtedness and exclusion from financial institutions among Irish Travellers and makes appropriate responses through its research and policy work. It establishes ways for the Traveller community to access legal and affordable credit and money management advice.

Funding provided by CIB to the Money Advice and Budgeting Service, including National Traveller MABS and MABS National Development is shown in the table below.

MABS*€

MABS ND**€

DMA***€

ABHAILE€

TOTAL€

2008

n/a

n/a

n/a

n/a

-

2009

496,610

n/a

n/a

n/a

496,610

2010

16,093,413

1,974,412

n/a

n/a

18,067,825

2011

15,234,467

1,964,652

n/a

n/a

17,199,119

2012

15,929,321

2,008,000

n/a

n/a

17,937,321

2013

15,751,160

1,997,607

n/a

n/a

17,748,767

2014

15,389,058

1,981,043

n/a

n/a

17,370,101

2015

15,157,081

2,141,300

511,402

n/a

17,809,783

2016

15,425,959

2,244,492

1,754,392

915,707

20,340,549

2017

15,735,472

1,853,744

2,416,190

3,737,631

23,743,037

2018 allocation

15,785,916

2,334,549

2,054,732

3,694,142

23,869,339

* Money Advice and Budgeting Service ( including National Traveller MABS)

** MABS National Development

*** Dedicated Mortgage Arrears

I trust that this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Citizens Information Services Funding

Questions (210)

Róisín Shortall

Question:

210. Deputy Róisín Shortall asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the amount of funding provided to the Citizens Information Service in each of the past ten years; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47582/18]

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Written answers

The Citizens Information Services (CIS), under the aegis of the Citizens Information Board (CIB), provides information to the public on a range of social and public services. CIS’s also provide an advocacy service to those who need assistance to access their entitlements. CIB also funds the Citizens Information Phone Service, which provides a comprehensive and confidential national telephone service.

Annual funding is provided by the Citizens Information Board to the Citizens Information Services. The table below sets out the funding provided to the Citizens Information Services and CIPS over the past ten years.

Year

CIS* €

CIPS** €

Total Amount €

2008

11,861,878

1,189,563

13,051,441

2009

12,287,678

1,316,970

13,604,648

2010

12,593,289

1,389,627

13,982,916

2011

12,425,648

1,291,754

13,717,402

2012

12,352,648

1,320,000

13,672,648

2013

12,478,192

1,123,244

13,601,436

2014

12,482,753

1,288,215

13,770,968

2015

12,359,767

1,249,569

13,609,336

2016

12,862,645

1,105,750

13,968,395

2017

13,170,660

1,244,748

14,415,408

2018 allocation

13,250,932

1,312,338

14,563,270

*Citizens Information Services

**Citizens Information Phone Services

I trust that this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Energy Efficiency

Questions (211)

Catherine Murphy

Question:

211. Deputy Catherine Murphy asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection if her Department is part of the public sector energy reporting programme; if so, the percentage of improvement in energy efficiency to date that has been achieved; the way in which this was achieved; if her Department noted a decrease in energy efficiency in view of the National Energy Efficiency Action Plan for energy efficiency targets; if targets will be met by the 2020 deadline; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47590/18]

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Written answers

My Department and its agencies under my aegis are part of the Public Sector Energy Reporting Programme run by SEAI and is also active in the OPW's Optimising Power at work energy saving scheme.

As at the end of 2017 an energy saving of 32.6% was recorded against the 2009 baseline figures and is on course to achieve the 33% NEAP energy efficiency targets by 2020.

Back to Education Allowance Appeals

Questions (212)

Bernard Durkan

Question:

212. Deputy Bernard J. Durkan asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection if a means can be found to approve a back to education allowance in the case of a person (details supplied); and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47615/18]

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Written answers

For the Back to Education Allowance Scheme, in order for eligibility and provisional award of payment to be determined by a Determining Officer, it is necessary for applications for this scheme to be made in advance and no later than 30 days prior to the commencement of the intended course of study. This requirement is to enable scheduling of assessment processes and interviews with applicants.

Following a review the Back to Education Allowance application made by the person concerned, it has been determined that that application was received within the 30 day limit. A Determining Officer has also now decided that the customer meets the eligibility criteria for the Back to Education Allowance Scheme.

The application by the person concerned has been forwarded to the Case Officer in line with the guidelines under this scheme and the Case Officer has given approval.

A revised decision will issue to the customer.

I hope this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

SOLAS Training and Education Programmes Provision

Questions (213)

Bernard Durkan

Question:

213. Deputy Bernard J. Durkan asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection if further reconsideration will be given in the case of a person (details supplied); and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47622/18]

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Written answers

The person concerned previously engaged with the Local Employment Service Mediator through a Walk-in appointment in 2017 and was referred to a course which she completed on 20th July 2018.

The Department spoke to the Local Employment Service Mediator on 13th November 2018. The Mediator had engaged with the person concerned in recent days. They have been advised to contact the Mediator for a referral or they can create a self -referral when the new course is advertised in 2019.

I hope this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Social Welfare Overpayments

Questions (214)

Bernard Durkan

Question:

214. Deputy Bernard J. Durkan asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the basis on which a recovery of payment is being proposed in the case of a person (details supplied); and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47623/18]

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Written answers

The person concerned was registered as a full time student between 04/09/2017 and 31/10/2017 and as a consequence was deemed not to satisfy the qualifying conditions for receipt of Jobseekers Allowance for this period resulting in an overpayment of €1613 being assessed against him. A weekly recovery of €25 per week was put in place from 24/04/2018.

This case is now under review and an officer of my department will contact the customer as a matter of urgency.

I trust that this clarified the matter for the Deputy.

Illness Benefit Payments

Questions (215)

Bernard Durkan

Question:

215. Deputy Bernard J. Durkan asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the procedure to be followed in the case of a person (details supplied); if she qualifies for an extra payment or disability allowance in order to ensure she receives a basic level of payment in view of the circumstances; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47625/18]

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Written answers

The Illness Benefit claim for the person concerned has been processed and she is in receipt of her full entitlement under the Illness Benefit scheme.

Any person who has an urgent financial need can apply to the Department's Community Welfare Service and may be entitled to an additional or supplementary payment. This can be done by contacting the local Intreo Centre.

I trust this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

Jobseeker's Allowance Payments

Questions (216)

Bernard Durkan

Question:

216. Deputy Bernard J. Durkan asked the Minister for Employment Affairs and Social Protection the correct level of jobseeker's allowance payable in the case of a person (details supplied); and if she will make a statement on the matter. [47626/18]

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Written answers

The person concerned applied for Jobseekers Allowance on 9 July 2018 but as some documents were not submitted the application was closed.

A new application for Jobseekers Allowance was registered on 2 October 2018 and awarded from 27 September 2018.

On review of information supplied by the person concerned, the Deciding Officer has revised the decision and arrears will issue from 9 July 2018 to 26 September 2018.

The person concerned has been advised.

I hope this clarifies the matter for the Deputy.

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