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Dáil Éireann Debate, Thursday - 28 September 2023

Thursday, 28 September 2023

Questions (5)

Patrick Costello

Question:

5. Deputy Patrick Costello asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs following his recent trip to the Middle East, if he believes that a two-state solution is still possible, and what steps Ireland will take individually and at a European level to realise a two-state solution in the face of continued breaches of international law by Israel, ongoing illegal settlement building and expansion, forcible transfer of the Palestinian population by Israel and escalating settler violence with government support. [41757/23]

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Oral answers (8 contributions)

The first part of my question has been answered with regard to whether the two-state solution is possible. For me there is frustration. Why do we continually allow Israel to commit vast numbers of war crimes and breaches of international law with complete impunity?

In my engagements with the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Minister for Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer and the Foreign Minister Eli Cohen, I underlined that Ireland’s approach is grounded in respect for international law, including international human rights and humanitarian law, and that the fundamentals of our position are based on internationally agreed parameters and successive UN resolutions. I raised all of the issues referenced in the Deputy’s question in my political meetings in Israel and emphasised the serious concerns of the Government.

In terms of follow-up, at a political level, as noted in my replies to earlier parliamentary questions, I welcome the Peace Day initiative launched by the EU in partnership with the League of Arab States, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt. I spoke at the launch of this initiative during the UN high level week in New York last Monday and committed that Ireland would engage actively in the follow-up meetings that are envisaged in the coming months. I also discussed the issue with a wide range of Arab and European Ministers during my time in New York, including at a working dinner hosted by the International Peace Institute. I will continue to work with like-minded partners to ensure a sustained focus on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict at EU and international level.

In July, Ireland submitted a statement to the International Court of Justice regarding the advisory opinion on the legal consequences arising from the policies and practices of Israel in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem. The statement provided Ireland's legal analysis of these policies and practices.

It is also important that we support voices and organisations that promote peace and reconciliation from the ground up. My programme in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territory included several meetings with members of civil society. In the city of Lod, for example, I engaged with local political representatives from both the Jewish and Arab Israeli communities, some of whom had recently visited Belfast to share lessons and experiences.

While the current political context does not give rise to optimism in the short term, my firm view is that a two-state solution is still possible but would require a significant change in policy direction, particularly in respect of the Israeli Government. I remain convinced that Ireland has much to offer in restoring a pathway towards meaningful dialogue between the Israeli and Palestinian people and a political horizon towards a two-state solution.

I thank the Tánaiste. I find his language quite diplomatic, which is perhaps appropriate given his position, but I tend to agree with Deputy Gannon that we should call things what they are. In the question I have mentioned settlement building, settlement expansion, state-supported settler violence, demolitions and the forced transfer of Palestinian populations. What we are witnessing is Israel deliberately inflicting on Palestinians actions and conditions of life designed to destroy them within the West Bank. They are designed to destroy Palestinian communities in the West Bank. We need to call these out. To call them negative trends or say they are not giving rise to optimism is overly soft. We need to call them out. If we compare and contrast the response to Russian aggression and Russian war crimes to Israel's continued impunity in breaching international law we see quite a stark contrast. This is a frustration for many Deputies when we see international law being held up and given teeth with actions and concrete responses towards some states but not towards Israel, which continues to inflict these horrendous war crimes.

That is an unfair and incorrect assessment of it. Ireland has called it out. As Minister I have called out the actions in terms of expansions of settlements. We have repeatedly called it out at all international forums. We have submitted a very comprehensive statement to the International Court of Justice regarding the advisory opinion on the legal consequences arising from the policies and practices of Israel in the occupied Palestinian territory including East Jerusalem.

It is quite a substantive and robust submission, and it is now at the discretion of the court as to whether it publishes that and the various submissions. We are very clear on calling out what is unacceptable behaviour. When I meet with other leaders across the world, some African leaders will say this about Europe in terms of consistency in respect of Ukraine and Palestine, but they check themselves. They cannot say that to Ireland because we are consistent on territorial integrity, sovereignty and human rights, and we are perceived to be. They may say it to others, because other countries might have different backgrounds and history in respect of their presence and engagement with Africa, for example, because there has been a big debate in the context of Ukraine. When we engage with African leaders and interlocutors in respect of support or otherwise for Ukraine or, indeed, tolerance of Russian aggression, the Irish position is very clear: Russia violated the UN charter. Its invasion is illegal and immoral. Our view is that Israel’s behaviour in respect of the occupied territories violates the United Nations resolutions, which we have been very clear about, and international law.

I would highlight the difference between calling out and action. We have certainly taken much action in terms of economic sanctions against Russia that we have not against Israel. If we are supporting international law, let me ask this question. The International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA, conference is happening now. Israel is well known to have nuclear weapons. The Department of Foreign Affairs is rightly proud of its record with regard to non-proliferation and its work in that regard. There are two motions from the Jordanians at this conference. One is around calling out Israeli nuclear weapons and calling for IAEA inspections. Will we support that? That is in keeping international law. Will we support the Jordanian motion with regard to the position of Palestine? If we are to not recognise Palestine but support it as a state and support the two-state solution, we should be ensuring it has full participation in international bodies. Are we going to support international law with regard to non-proliferation in nuclear weapons?

My understanding is that the Government is ably represented at the IAEA by the Minister, Deputy Ryan. I am sure he will take the appropriate positions on all the various issues that will be on the agenda.

Will they listen to him?

We work very closely with Jordan, however, and we share a very common position. I believe the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Safadi, is very exercised by the entire situation. He has worked very hard and diligently, particularly at the Aqaba summit and Sharm el-Sheikh summit, to try to de-escalate the situation of recent times and the escalation of secular violence and so on. Israel has not followed through on the commitments it signed off on at Aqaba and Sharm el-Sheikh. We work closely with Jordan in respect of these issues.

My fundamental position is that Europe, and Israel, in terms of having an intelligent approach to this, should support moderation within Palestine and should enable, along with European partners, greater capacity for the Palestinian Authority. The Palestinian Authority has challenges as well. There has not been an election there for many years, which is problematic if the truth be told. That is why we will continue to support civil society organisations within the occupied territories and within Israel.

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