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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 21 Mar 1961

Vol. 187 No. 7

Vote 3—Department of the Taoiseach.

I move:—

That a supplementary sum not exceeding £680 be granted to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1961, for the Salaries and Expenses of the Department of the Taoiseach.

The purpose of this Supplementary Estimate is to provide an additional sum for the Commission on the Restoration of the Irish Language and also to provide for the travelling and incidental expenses of the Commission on Itinerancy. The amount for the Commission on the Restoration of the Irish Language is £580 and for the Commission on Itinerancy £600, but savings on other subheads amount to £500, so that the net additional amount required is £680. When the original provision was being prepared, it was expected that the Commission on the Irish Language would report by the 30th September, 1960. As it is now clear that the Commission will not report before the end of the financial year, it is necessary to make provision for a full year and an additional sum of £580 is required. The staff consists of an executive officer and a clerk-typist. I am now told that they hope to be able to bring in a final report by the end of next May.

The Commission on Itinerancy was established last June and there is no provision for it in the original Estimate. The sum of £600 is required to meet the travelling and incidental expenses of the Commission in the current year.

Cheapas go mbeadh Rúnaí Parlaiminte an Taoisigh anseo chun cúntas a thúirt dúinn ar an gCoimisiúin seo agus cad tá ar súil acu.

I thought that the Parliamentary Secretary to the Taoiseach might perhaps come to the House and give us some explanation as to what is happening in respect of the Commission on the Restoration of the Irish Language. Perhaps the Taoiseach himself will understand what is puzzling us in this matter. The Commission was set up in July, 1958 and at least one Dublin daily paper was saying more than two years ago that we would have the report in about six months and another daily paper spoke of how urgent the matter was and said that the report would be very soon with us and spoke of the effect it would have.

When we look at the figures in front of us now and the figure in front of us for the coming year, we are rather puzzled. The original Estimate for 1960-61 was £630. Now the Taoiseach is asking for an additional £580, but while we can understand that the Commission is running later than it was expected to run, when we look at the Taoiseach's Estimate for this year, we find that the total of £1,400 is being sought for the year 1960-61 and of that £1,400, £770 is being sought under the heading of "Costas Taistil, etc." Therefore, more money is down in the Estimates for 1960-61 for travelling etc. than was asked for in the total Estimate last year.

That is for all Commissions.

No. We have it here under the heading "An Coimisiún um Athbheochan na Gaeilge" and then the figures are given for that— tuarastail agus rl. Costas Taistil is down for "An Coimisiún um Athbheochan na Gaeilge" in the Estimates for 1961-62 as £770 out of a total of £1,400. When we put that against the original Estimate for the Commission last year of £630, something important in the development and work of the Commission would appear to require explanation.

When these matters come up on the Taoiseach's Estimate, the Taoiseach will understand there will not be much room for discussion on the work of the Commission, but when we have the opportunity of discussing a Supplementary Estimate on an occasion like this, it seems to me to suggest that in an important matter like this, it is desirable that we should have a short statement as to how the work of the Commission is proceeding and what has developed in relation to this important matter they are discussing to bring about a situation in which not only does it not conclude in the way in which it was expected to conclude, but that in the Estimate for next year, the sum being estimated for is almost greater on the whole than the total sum now being looked for, even with this Supplementary Estimate. The revised Estimate for this year is £1,210 and it seems to me that the Estimate under this heading is £1,400 for next year, of which £770 is to be for travelling.

The point I particularly wish to make is that so much time has now passed that the presentation of a Supplementary Estimate should give an opportunity to inform the House as to what exactly is proceeding in the Commission, what important developments have taken place in their outlook or their research that have extended it for so long and have called for the expenditure of so much money for the financial year before us as well as for the present one.

There is another point I wish to make in this connection. We have the experience of the position in which commissions do a lot of preparatory work well ahead in preparing substantial reports but nothing is done to get the part of the report that is prepared sent to the printers or made ready in any way for distribution. We have the situation now in which a Commission under another Department has been six years in session. It must have had the greater part of its report substantially prepared 18 months ago and, as far as I know, none of it has been sent to the printers yet.

I feel there is a general situation that is tolerated in respect of Government and Parliamentary printing that no commercial firm would tolerate. I do not know who is responsible for it, but, as the Taoiseach is here, I should like to mention that Government business generally in relation to printing is not being handled as any progressive commercial firm would handle it and the prestige and the work of Parliament are suffering by lack of attention to that matter.

As regards the work of the Commission, I cannot give the Deputy much information, as he will appreciate. Some time last year, I met the chairman of the Commission and he intimated to me that the work was proceeding at that stage very satisfactorily, so much so that he hoped to have the report of the Commission completed some time during the year, and it was on the basis of that expectation then expressed that the Estimate for last year was prepared. Obviously, some situation must have arisen in the Commission which delayed the completion of the report and my present expectation is that it will come along some time about the end of May. The Deputy, however, must not ask me to explain what particular problem the Commission encountered which made it necessary for them to spend so much longer over the completion of their report. I should hope that the additional time which they gave to it would add to the value of their report when we get it.

Does the Taoiseach not appreciate that when we get a sum of £770 for travel in relation to something which he tells us is going to be finished in May, not only are we entitled to know what is up but the House should be informed as to what special developments have taken place in the important work of this Commission that have brought about the change?

I am afraid I cannot give the Deputy much information. I presume it is an estimate of the amount that will fall to be paid during the next financial year and not necessarily the amount that accrued.

Vote put and agreed to.
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