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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 14 Dec 1971

Vol. 257 No. 10

Order of Business.

It is proposed to take business in the following order: No. 21, Votes 37, 43, 44, 48 and 49.

Has the Taoiseach yet decided when the Dáil will resume after Christmas?

The Whips are meeting about arranging the remaining business and the arrangements will determine the date of resumption.

As far as the remaining business is concerned, everybody can see the amount of work that can be done this week in view of the fact that the adjournment debate will be held on Thursday and Friday.

I have asked the Chief Whip of this party to make contact with the Whips of the other parties about the Referendum Bill. The outcome will determine the date of resumption.

Does the Taoiseach still contemplate March for the referendum——

Is it still the 29th?

Hopefully, yes.

——and to have the legislation passed in time? Could the Taoiseach say what time must his Department have between the final passage of the Bill through the Seanad and the signing of it by the President and the actual holding of the referendum? I assume no preparations can be made by anybody until the Bill is passed.

And signed by the President and an order made by the Minister and then not less than 30 and not more than 90 days thereafter.

Is the Taoiseach's hope for a March referendum waxing or waning?

I am talking about the arrangements that must be made by returning officers in the Department that will conduct it. They cannot engage in any expenditure until the Bill is finally signed.

Officially they cannot, but they are already doing it.

What time will be needed?

The election returning officers are getting their equipment ready all the time to be as ready as possible.

They are signing for all they are worth now.

Is the Taoiseach's hope for a March referendum waxing or waning?

I am afraid I am not as clever as the Deputy.

The Deputy is a bit obtuse.

(Cavan): Could the Taoiseach give us any idea when the Local Government (Planning and Development) (No. 2) Bill, 1969, will be taken in view of the fact that the then Minister for Local Government gave as an excuse for not accepting a Fine Gael Bill at that time that this Bill would be introduced and proceeded with? It was introduced in 1969 and it has been on the Order Paper since.

I answered a similar question some weeks ago. The Minister indicated there were certain aspects of the Bill he would like to re-examine and to re-submit to the Parliamentary draftsmen. He indicated it would be brought in some time later, perhaps next year.

(Cavan): I think the Taoiseach will find that the records show that he gave me that answer about 12 months ago.

I cannot remember that.

Would the Taoiseach not seriously consider, if he is to have a referendum, having it after the 14th April when the new register becomes operable? It would be the fairest thing. March is the twelfth month of the year as far as the register is concerned and in all fairness when there is such a momentous decision to be made those who have come on it in the last six or nine months should be given an opportunity of expressing their views.

It is something worth taking into account.

The Taoiseach will consider it?

Thank you.

In view of the confusion abroad about the dates of the referendum and the impending VAT——

Whatever confusion there is I am sure it is coming out of the Deputy's own skull.

The Deputy has not a skull like the Taoiseach's in any case.

The Taoiseach does not seem to be down with the grassroots. Can the Taoiseach indicate at this stage when VAT will come into force?

That does not arise on the Order of Business. We cannot discuss everything on the Order of Business.

(Interruptions.)

The Taoiseach has let the country down. He is allowing Mr. Faulkner do what he likes. There is anarchy in the country and the Taoiseach is doing nothing about it. The Taoiseach is just sitting down doing nothing.

Order. I am calling No. 21.

That is what the Taoiseach is paid for.

When will the VAT come into force?

It does not arise. The question is not in order. We are not discussing the value-added tax.

The country is in complete disorder.

The Taoiseach need not talk about anybody's skull.

Is this on the disorder of business?

It is on the Order of Business. I am calling No. 21, Vote 37.

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