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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 30 Nov 1976

Vol. 294 No. 7

Private Members' Business. - Tourist Industry: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann is of the opinion that the tourist industry is failing to make an adequate contribution to the national economy, due to the failure of the Government with regard to prices, its introduction of penal taxation and its failure to give guidance and adequate support to the industry.

The end of the tourist season is the appropriate time to discuss the tourist industry. We will have an opportunity to examine our successes or failures and prepare ourselves for the next season. After last year's budget we on this side of the House feared the effects that the increases in the price of petrol, drink, tobacco and tea imposed by the budget would have on the tourist industry. Our fears were justified and following the budget we tabled a Private Members' motion at that time, that the House deplored the actions of the Government which had reduced the competitiveness of the tourist industry and we recommended that subventions necessary to restore competitiveness be provided.

On that occasion some speakers claimed that there was an upsurge in the tourist market and predicted an increase in tourist numbers for 1976. It was stated then, also, that bookings in April, 1976, were at a much higher level than was the case for the same period in the previous year. However, an examination of the Bord Fáilte monthly tourist statistics for August, 1976, discloses that the number of tourists from Britain was 47,000 fewer than in the previous year or 88,000 fewer than the target of 858,000. The actual number was 817,000. An increase of this nature in itself should be sufficient to cause a good deal of concern to those involved in the promotion of tourism. The same statistics show that there was a marginal increase in the number of tourists coming from North America. The increase was from 256,000 to 269,000 or, approximately, 5 per cent. So far as Continental tourists were concerned there was an increase this year of about 11 per cent—from 188,000 last year to 207,000 this year. There was no change in the numbers coming from Northern Ireland or the number of day trippers to this country. But we must take a very serious view of the fall-off in actual numbers and of the failure to reach targets or, indeed, to be anywhere near the targets set.

I notice from the Order Paper that the Government have tabled a motion counter to the one I have put down. In this they claim to have put tourism on a better footing than was the case before they assumed power almost four years ago. It is difficult to imagine anyone involved in the tourist industry being prepared to accept the Government's claim in this regard. On the contrary, those in the industry consider themselves to have been abandoned by the Government. There is no foundation for the Government's claim to have improved this industry. Rather, their performance in this sphere can be likened to the case of a man, having had too much to drink and setting off for home in his horse-drawn cart. The reins fall on the road but everything will be all right provided the horse knows the way home.

There is no control by the Government in regard to the direction in which the tourist industry is going. They are to be blamed for not influencing in any way the rate of progress in the industry. The fact that the industry is not in even more serious difficulties is a tribute to the imagination, the dedication and the ability of those involved both in the public and the private sectors of the industry. However, the morale of those people is low now. They have not been receiving any guidance.

In regard to improving the situation the Government should consider it a priority to designate the tourist industry as a service industry. Tourism is an export industry. It contains all the benefits for the economy that any other export industry contains but has the advantage of not requiring the importation of vast quantities of costly raw materials. By any reasonable test, tourism is an export industry but it is not credited as such in regard to matters of taxation. It is only fair and just that it be given this classification which would go a long way towards off-setting the ill-effects of the Government's tax measures which are proving so detrimental to the industry and to all those employed in it. There is no valid reason for refusing to comply with the request for this classification of the industry apart from the consideration that the Minister for Finance might not be able to hive off as much from the industry during the next few years as has been the case up to now. However, I am of the opinion that the expansion that would result from a designation on the lines I have suggested would prove of real benefit to the Exchequer in the long term.

One can only come to the conclusion that the Government's actions in relation to tourism are based on the policy of expediency. The Minister for Finance is making desperate efforts to grab money from any source even if his policies will prove in the long term to have ill effects for all of us, to grab some more money in taxes to help them out of a situation which, to a great extent, was created by themselves. As far as tourism is concerned it is a case of the Government killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

I should be very interested to hear in the Minister's reply what are his proposals for the industry following the year that has passed. He should certainly look at the employment potential of the industry because earnings from tourism filter through our economy in a dramatic way. They have a multiplier effect and have widespread benefits. It has been said on good authority that 10 per cent of banking and insurance business here results from tourism and about 20,000 jobs in the wholesale and retail trade; that it gives about 4,000 jobs in the entertainment field; 7,000 jobs in the textile industry and about 2,000 jobs in the drink and tobacco industry. Viewed from the agricultural side—and at the present time it would be well if we could use more of our agricultural production—I have seen figures given in respect of usage of agricultural produce by the tourist industry and it was estimated that it absorbs about 2.5 million gallons of milk per year, 36 million eggs, 2,000 tons of butter, 6,000 tons of meat and 15,000 tons of vegetables.

When one examines those figures, especially those for meat and milk, in the light of our present situation and in the light of the earnings of tourism and the form of revenue it brings in, one realises that support for the tourist industry means, first and foremost, jobs, not only jobs available on a large scale in the tourist industry and related industries, but also filtering down through the whole economy. The fact that up to the present 112 hotels have been sold since 1973 has resulted in a loss of about 3,500 bedrooms, about 15 per cent of the total available. It is estimated that there is a direct loss of about 2,500 jobs. This is only in one section of the tourist industry. Pronouncements made last week at a seminar are worth repeating: it was stated that for every 15 extra American or 37 extra British tourists persuaded to visit Ireland, one new full-time job is created.

If the tourist industry achieves the target set for 1977, it was claimed that approximately 3,500 additional jobs would be created. This is why we must make every effort to hit the target. If we had fulfilled the projection for 1976, the industry would not be in its present situation. These reasons alone, ignoring the help to our balance of payments given by such earnings, make it vital that some positive action be taken to help tourism. No other sector of the economy I think is as capable of creating jobs in such numbers and with such speed. It has been said that at present tourism generates about 110,000 jobs. I think, if given Government backing to meet the target and accelerated growth, it could generate as many more jobs in the next 10 years. That is why I think it is so important to assist the industry at present.

A number of positive proposals have been repeatedly submitted by members of the tourist industry to alleviate their present problems. Of these one was duty-free facilities between Britain and Ireland; another was a proposal which we have continuously urged since the last budget and it is the granting of petrol concessions for tourists by way of voucher at the point of entry. Had this been introduced when first suggested, certainly we would not have had the fall-off in British tourists that we had in the past year. It was also proposed that there should be export tax relief for certain sections of the tourist industry and it was suggested that a tourist credit corporation be set up to aid the industry to raise capital at favourable rates at a time of vanishing profits. It was suggested that special attention be given to transportation and that a national selling agency should be formed. Those suggestions merit careful attention.

I think there should be careful definition of the national interest, the tourist interest and the airline interest in regard to scheduled and chartered flights. The current constraint on Aer Lingus to show a profit might not be in the national interest. In their efforts to minimise losses they may be forced by the Minister into a situation where they come dangerously close to inhibiting rather than aiding the influx of tourists. At present their aim seems to be to create profits while I think it should be geared to generating the maximum number of tourists for this country.

Another matter which has been much discussed and which requires urgent and serious consideration is the concept of a national tourism selling agency. Such an agency would involve not only the public sector but also the private sector and it probably would be the perfect vehicle for the co-ordinated market of Ireland as a tourist centre. I notice that in the papers the Minister is quoted as saying in regard to the Cork Harbour development plan that there would have to be central co-ordination so that the best national use could be made of available port resources and available finance. I would ask him if he would use the same argument to sustain a proposal for a national tourism selling agency for the tourist industry.

Once again it could be said that any aid given to an industry which enables it to increase the numbers coming into the country would automatically increase the number of new jobs available. The jobs, it should be noted, would not be jobs in the tourist industry alone but also in all facets of the economy, in the services, in food, in entertainment, and all of those would be required by the tourist organisers. As everyone knows, at present jobs for our people are desperately needed and the tourist industry has the potential to make many jobs available.

The two best-known benefits of tourism are foreign earnings and employment. Our share of the total export earnings has declined somewhat over the last few years in real terms, but tourism is still a major earner of foreign exchange and last year we earned around £160 million or 10 per cent of the total current account earnings. About half of this was in sterling, and with our record of public borrowing abroad and a widening balance of payments deficit it is very obvious that tourism has a renewed and increased significance in this field.

Many export industries require a high level of imports in order to manufacture their export products. This is particularly true of some intensive industries such as the chemical industry. Also, many of those industries are wholly or partly foreign-owned so that the profits to non-resident parent companies represent a further outflow of overseas earnings. Tourism has a very low level of import requirements, estimated at something in the region of 9 per cent, and also has predominance of Irish ownership and control. This is not surprising, because, after all, we are selling Irish goods and services and their Irishness is a large part of their attraction. We also have sufficient expertise and sufficient plant in the tourist business and we have seemingly the know-how. What remains is to attract those additional people to make use of all that.

There are other ways in which tourism contributes to the national economy. For instance, for every £1 spent in Ireland by a foreign tourist it is estimated that 68p is generated as Exchequer revenue. Last week it was stated that the State earned over £85 million from foreign tourists last year. This multiple return of investment certainly should fully justify State expenditure on tourism. Tourism also plays a major role in the field of regional economic imbalance, and when we link those strands together we have one irrefutable fact and that is that despite the present setbacks that tourism has faced, it is still a major force for economic growth. The total foreign and domestic tourism expenditure contributed 6½ per cent of last year's GNP; 4½ per cent of this from foreign tourism. If we take the multiplier effect of tourism it would be responsible for about 2¼ per cent of the GNP and if we have a 10 per cent increase in real tourism earnings it would generate a large increase on that. It might not seem a great deal but if we consider that the GNP increased by only 19 per cent between 1968 and 1975 and that it is forecast to increase at best by about 4 per cent this year—it fell by something like 4 per cent between 1974 and 1975—we can appreciate the potential of tourism. That is the way we should view it.

Selling tourism is a highly competitive field of endeavour and the methods employed to sell tourism with decent facilities are important. The selling of tourism is very costly and we should ensure that the money invested in its promotion would yield the best possible result to the largest number of people possible. While more money is needed we should have a look at the present structure, at the present agencies involved in the selling of tourism. At present it is sold by semi-State and private interests. It would be good if we could say that those individual interests have worked well to yield the greatest result to the economy. Unfortunately, that has not always been the case. A certain conflict arises between State, semi-State and private interests, and there is no doubt that the national interest suffers as a result of that. We have the National Tourism Council and they, I think, have not yielded the return that had been hoped for. That to a great extent is a conflict of interests. A serious examination of the functions of the various State and semi-State agencies and their association with private interests must be undertaken and a working formula devised because we cannot permit conflict to harm the development of the tourist industry.

A major example of this conflict has been the question of charter flights. When we discussed this last it was suggested that the Northern troubles posed the greatest threat to tourism. One of our Ministers, the Minister for Posts and Telegraphs, recently spoke rather unwisely when he said that there were murderous gangs infesting our island. The Government were using the Northern troubles, world economic conditions and decisions in Brussels as an excuse. The Northern troubles have been used continuously as an excuse for lack of progress in the tourist industry. Many of our visitors from Britain are well acquainted with conditions here and clearly understand that the troubles are limited to the north-eastern part of the country. I do not believe those troubles are creating the problems they did a few years ago. This view was reinforced by a statement last week by the deputy director general of the British Tourist Authority when he spoke at the National Tourism Council seminar in Cork. He gave it as his opinion that Ireland was losing British tourists because a holiday here was becoming very expensive, rather than because of the troubles in the North. He went on to give as an example the fact that a British holidaymaker could have a two weeks' holiday in Spain for £65. How far would that go in one of our seaside resorts?

Because of the high cost of promoting tourism it is wasteful to have a multiplicity of promotion campaigns in various countries. Co-operation in promoting tourism is more effective and economical than a series of individual efforts. Even with a rationalisation of the functions of various State and semi-State agencies and the maximum amount of co-operative effort within the private sector, we would still not have achieved the ideal structure for selling tourism. In this highly competitive and costly business, our best hope would be a national selling agency to embrace all those interests. Such an agency would be the ideal vehicle to market Ireland as a tourist centre. At present when nations must join together in larger groups, such as the EEC, to be effective, the combining of all functions in one agency makes good sense. Because of the conflict of interests mentioned, the setting up of a national tourist agency would require leadership by the industry and firm backing by the Government.

I raised by way of parliamentary question some time ago the reports which appeared in the Evening Press on 2nd November, 1976, and in The Irish Times for 4th November, 1976, dealing with travellers' objections to conditions. This takes on an added significance when we look at the number of tourists from Britain. According to Mr. Hogan, chairman of the Federation of Irish Societies in Britain, addressing a meeting in London attended by members of his committee and representatives of various travel organisations, the Irish in Britain are treated as second-and third-class citizens when they travel to Ireland. I asked that this be fully investigated and if those accusations did not stand up to examination, that should be made known and the results spelled out.

Again I ask the Minister to consider those submissions and even at this late stage to do all he can to ensure that the people in the tourist industry will be in a position to meet the targets which are set for next year and the years following and that we will not be coming back to this House pointing an accusing finger at the Government and the Minister in charge saying: "You have neglected an aspect of our economy which could be a good money earner and job creator." It is important that the Minister look at this as a matter of urgency.

I move amendment No. 1:

To delete all words after "tourist industry" and substitute the following:

"has shown a recovery since 1973, having previously been in decline since 1969, and commends the contribution which the Government, in accordance with its stated aim on taking office, has made towards that recovery".

I am glad to have the chance of talking here on tourism and I am glad this motion was put down. In his concluding remarks Deputy Leonard said he hoped he would not have to put down a motion accusing the Government and the Minister of failure in the tourist industry in time to come. I hope he will put down such a motion, even if he does accuse the Minister because he must have some vehicle, some whipping boy. I am happy to be it as long as we can have more intelligent and informed discussions on tourism. Tourism is not debated here often enough. I have shown my concern for the industry and I have travelled to many countries promoting Ireland as a tourist destination. I believe we have something special to offer in the tourist line but I would not accept that this country should be a destination of mass tourism. Last April, in the course of a debate initiated by Deputy Leonard, I expressed the view that this should never be our aim. We are selling something different and unique and it cannot be sold at giveaway cut prices.

Deputy Leonard said that a speaker at a seminar last week pointed out that one could spend two weeks in Spain, staying in a hotel, for £65. He told us that the hotel industry is nonprofitable and depressed and that some hotels are shutting down. If Irish hoteliers were getting £65 for a two-weeks stay and if all taxes and excise duties were taken off what they were selling how many people would be employed? What level of profitability would there be? What wages would be paid to the people employed in the hotels offering those prices? It is not on. We are a different country. We are members of the EEC and we are trying to bring to our people a standard of living equal to that enjoyed by people living in other European capital cities. Deputy Leonard seems to be proposing that we should reverse that trend and have a policy of low wages, cheap products and poor hotels. He did not say that but that would be the effect of what he suggested. People will pay for what they get and if they get a quality product they are willing to pay a bit more for it. That does not mean that people are free to charge what they like; there must be competitiveness, an important element in a tourist product. We are not selling a cheap product here; we are not selling poor food or cheap accommodation. We want our hotel staff to be well paid and our hoteliers to make money. They are the constraints within which the hoteliers and the tourist industry operate.

Deputy Leonard quoted figures for August and I should like to give him the latest figures. I am sorry this debate was not left for January when we would have all the figures for 1976. I shall try to initiate a debate in the early part of every year in future on tourism so that we can compare a full 12 months' figures with the figures for the previous year. I should like to add that I listened to all suggestions and I have a completely open mind and I am acceptable to all suggestions for solutions to the problems the tourist industry has. The figures I have are for the period from January last to October. At that stage the number of tourists from Britain was 708,400 compared with 739,000 the previous year, a drop of 4.1 per cent. For North America the figure is 252,000 compared with 239,300, a growth of 5.3 per cent. For the Continent of Europe the figure is 188,600 for this year compared with 169,900 for 1975, a growth of 11 per cent. For what are termed as "other areas" there has been a growth of 0.4 per cent, from 25,800 compared with 25,700 in 1975. This means that for the first ten months of this year there was a fractional increase in the total tourism picture compared with the previous year, from 1,173,900 to 1,174,800 so far this year, an increase of 0.1 per cent.

From my point of view those figures are not satisfactory. The "other areas" is a different area because it extends around the world. It is virgin territory as far as Bord Fáilte are concerned but they are putting as much of their resources as they can afford into promoting tourism in those areas. The number of tourists coming is small but I hope it will grow. There was a very satisfactory growth in the number of tourists from continental Europe and if we could have got that growth in the other categories I would be satisfied. As regards prices in North America, continental Europe and "other areas" our prices are extremely competitive. This country is extraordinarily good value for people from Europe, North America and the "other areas".

I was in a good hotel in Brussels last week—it was not a grade A hotel— and I paid 195 francs for one whiskey and two bottles of beer—the rate of exchange is about 55 or 56 francs to the £. That meant that I paid more than £3 for those drinks. Bed and breakfast cost me £27 and I was charged 35 francs—about 60p—for an orange juice I ordered with my continental breakfast. I was amused to hear Deputy Leonard, for the second time in 12 months, talking about pricing ourselves out of the tourist market. Compared with the prices continentals have to pay for hotels, food, transport and drink things here are ridiculously cheap. People come here because it is cheap to holiday here. The North Americans consider all our prices cheap, with the exception of petrol, but Americans would consider petrol anywhere in the world very expensive. It is roughly six times dearer in Italy than it is in North America; four times dearer in France; three times dearer here and about 2½ times dearer in Britain.

I should like to tell the House what a writer in the travel resorts section of The Washington Star, Mr. William M. Fine, in the issue of November 14th, 1976, said about Ireland. The writer is publishing director of Harpers Bazaar, Town & Country and House Beautiful. Obviously, he is a man of a good reputation and his judgment would be accepted by people in the United States. He talks about Ireland and the price of petrol. For American citizens it is dear. That is true. He talks about the golf and the hotels, not grade A hotels. He lists seven or eight and he talks about how cheap they are. He says good food is plentiful in Galway. He says Galway is known for fish—Galway Bay prawns, black sole and plaice. Smoked salmon is sky high in price this year, almost seven dollars, and he has exclamation marks after that because it is so cheap by American standards. He lists three or four places around the country—some of them I do not know—and he says how marvellous they are.

He starts off the article by saying: "Having just completed my 75th visit to Ireland, over a 17½ years' span, I have begun to understand some of the subtleties of that Mystical Isle——perhaps just well enough to comment on them." He makes the point —it is a point I made here last week and again this evening—about quality. He quotes the new director general of Bord Fáilte and says he has a unique quality outlook for Irish tourists. He says: "During the last ten years, I have found small touches of this `quality' all around Ireland." This is what we are selling. We are selling quality and this is a really firm basis for a growing tourism market. Quality is building good hotels. Quality is a proper backup of professionalism in running these hotels which will give the hoteliers a return on their investment. Quality will give Irish food a reputation carried back by people who visit here and thus create a demand outside the country for that food and that drink, or whatever it is. Quality in our style of life, and the extent to which that quality style of life is transferred or transmitted to those who come here, to my mind, is really what tourism is or should be about.

We take the profits and we create the jobs. We have our access transport. We have all the various semi-State industries sucked up by tourism. In the final analysis, when we talk about tourism and why it is really important in world-wide human terms, we are talking about people meeting people. The higher the quality of life and the more of that high quality we can transmit to those who come to us or garner from them, the more benefit there is from tourism in patriotic terms.

I agree with Deputy Leonard that the problem of the North of Ireland is not the only problem, but it is a big problem in the United Kingdom market. It is difficult to be precise in calculating how much one problem or another affects the drop in tourist numbers from the UK this year. The first problem is the economic situation in the UK. It is similar to the American situation in 1974 with the American economy under seige and an unwillingness on the part of Americans, therefore, to move outside the walls of their economy. Tourism is, of course, paid for by all of us and what is left over when we have met all our expenses. If there is a high level of unemployment, fewer people can afford to travel. This was a significant factor in the drop in tourists from the UK this year. Ireland was not the only country which suffered. Europe and the rest of the world suffered a drop of between 17 and 26 per cent as compared with 1975. That includes Ireland, but the drop here was 4.1 per cent for the first ten months as compared with Spain, Germany, France and other places. We did not fare so badly. The problem deserves special attention. It is something that cannot be left to chance.

We cannot, of course brush aside the Northern Ireland problem. The bombing of four hotels in July, the murder of the British Ambassador by soulless, moronic sadists who seem to think they speak for the people when they engage in such savagery, had an impact. If one were an Englishman looking at his television last July, without having booked his holidays, and one discovered the ambassador of one's country had been murdered in one's nearest neighbour's country, what would one's reaction be? I do not think I need answer the question. Until we wipe out that scum and stop them in their mindless violence, which they protest is patriotism, which is the basest form of sedition and treachery, in both parts of this island, until this scum are totally discarded by everybody in the country, tourism will have a problem.

Deputy Leonard said the morale of the tourist industry is low. That is not so. If we have succeeded since coming into office in doing anything for tourism, we have certainly succeeded in raising morale. When I came in I found all sectors of the industry— hoteliers, carriers, car-hire people, travel agents—depressed, fearful and lacking confidence in the future of the industry. Things have changed dramatically. In the hotel industry at this time there is probably more confidence, more faith in the future and more willingness to make an investment in terms of cash than there has been since 1969.

Deputy Leonard stated that 112 hotels have closed since 1973 with the loss of 2,500 jobs. It is true that if those hotels were full the jobs would not have been lost. However, I do not think the people in Bord Fáilte who are responsible for standards in the industry would weep over all the hotels that closed. It was unfortunate that some of them closed but others had outlived their usefulness. Like any other business an hotel needs continual investment in refurbishing and in promotion. This also applies to management personnel.

New ideas, drive and initiative are necessary, as is a sense of urgency and purpose. That sense now exists in the hotel industry and it is notable that hotels put up for sale are now being sought and bids are being made for them. That was not the case in the last six or seven years. It is happening because people have a sense of being on a winning side. That is the real mark of confidence, the sign that the policies I have been adopting for the past three years have been successful. People now regard the hotel industry as one in which they are willing to invest their time and money. Deputy Leonard said it was a criticism of me that these hotels closed but, at the same time, he pointed out that we have sufficient plant. If that is so we must have had too much before because the figures do not add up.

I wish to make a few comments on the matter of access transport. When Opposition Deputies spoke on this matter they were speaking out of both sides of their mouths at once. Deputy Leonard said with regard to the Aer Lingus charter policy that it might not be in the national interest for it to show a profit. I presume he meant that I should issue charter licences to other airlines and instruct Aer Lingus to drop their prices, to become a full-time charter airline and to be subservient totally to the tourist industry.

At the moment there is a measure going through this House where I am seeking sanction to allow Aer Lingus to invest in extra capital. Deputy Barrett and Deputy Leonard said that those people who spoke about Aer Lingus changing to a charter airline and who criticised Aer Lingus policy on charters did not know what they were talking about. I do not know which Deputy is voicing the official Fianna Fáil line because there is a contradiction between what they have said.

Aer Lingus are a commercial body and they are there to make a profit. Their losses have been very high in the past few years on the North Atlantic route. However, the last option I would accept is that they should come off that route. They serve tourism and are available to carry charters from en route destinations in America but they must remain on the North Atlantic route as a scheduled carrier. That means flying at specific times and on specific dates all the year round. An abandonment of that policy would not be in our national interest because it would mean that there would not be anybody selling Ireland in the United States. People who want to come here for other than tourism purposes would not be able to use the Irish airline. I must look at this in a much broader way than just from the tourism point of view. It might be in the tourist interest for Aer Lingus to abandon that policy—I am not sure of that—but I would not be in favour of their doing it.

I wish to draw attention to a matter about which there has been a number of questions in this House. The message does not seem to have got across yet. I am referring to the number of cheap fares available to people in the United Kingdom who wish to come to Ireland. There are many special offers and I will mention some of them. There is the special family fare that, for the price of two normal fares, allows free travel for two children between three years and 14 years plus two infants. Those children may travel free with their parents who pay normal fares. There is also the air coach service. This service combines air travel based on the excursion fare between Dublin and United Kingdom airports; it quotes travel from the United Kingdom airports to London and eight major provincial centres. There is also the "All-the-Way" facility. This gives a special price reduction for air travel; there is also a coach to take a person to his destination. There is the "Fly-Drive" which quotes a special air fare plus a car at this end. There is the fare that allows a man to have his wife travel with him at half fare. There are the youth fares that give a discount of 25 per cent on the excursion return fares available to young people between the ages of 12 and 21 who travel between Ireland and the United Kingdom. The Irish continental lines have special fares also. Children under the age of four years travel free. Fares for children between four years and 14 years are approximately 50 per cent less than normal fares. The B & I have special fares. There is the Wednesday special fare; there is the four-day mini-tour as well as day and weekend excursions. I would like if Deputies would bring these fares to the attention of people living in their own areas, not just to the attention of relatives in England. If we can spread the word that these fares are available perhaps we will have more tourists from the United Kingdom in the year ahead.

I wish to support the motion in the name of Deputy Leonard. I was interested to hear the Minister quote the amount he was charged for hotel accommodation in Brussels. However, he should have told us the wages of an ordinary working man in Brussels.

The Deputy should tell that to Deputy Leonard. It is a pertinent point.

It is relevant because I am sure the wages there are much higher than they are in this country. I believe tourism has become such an important industry in recent years that it should be given every encouragement by the Government so that the maximum returns can be made to the economy. Some of the measures which the Government have introduced, particularly the penal taxation on petrol and the continuing increase in food prices, can only lead one to conclude that the Government are not interested in promoting tourism. Those commodities are essential to the tourist industry.

The contribution of tourism is twofold. In economic terms it helps with the balance of payments, generates employment and assists the progress of regional development. In social terms it has a significant impact on the quality of life by fostering national culture, traditions and civic pride and bringing about greater understanding between people. It is, therefore, imperative that the Government be to the forefront in creating the right climate for the attraction of tourists to the country. I am not referring to the weather. The climate I would like to see is that prices are right, proper amenities are available, that there is a good transport service, good hotel accommodation and so on.

The total number of holidays in Ireland in 1974, between visitors and home holidays, was 4.37 million. Expenditure in Ireland in that year was £146.7 million. This is a substantial figure and an excellent contribution to our economy. By 1980, according to the Bord Fáilte plan, it is hoped that the number of holidays spent in Ireland will increase by 29 per cent to 5.829 million and that there will be a real increase in revenue to 32.4 per cent. Did Bord Fáilte, when making those projections, take into account the rapidly increasing food prices which we have had, the increase in hotel charges, the increased petrol charges and increases in the price of drink, cigarettes and all kinds of entertainment? Those items are very necessary for a good holiday. If we price ourselves out of the market we cannot expect to attract people who can get cheaper holidays elsewhere. We all know that petrol can be bought for 10p per gallon cheaper in Northern Ireland than it can here. Why could the Government not introduce some scheme which would enable tourists to purchase petrol at at least the same price as it can be bought in Northern Ireland or Great Britain? If such a scheme were introduced it would attract many more tourists to this country. It would show that the Government were determined to build up this very valuable industry. I believe such a scheme would be easy to operate.

We see, as a result of successive Coalition budgets, that the price of drink is prohibitive. It is much higher than it is in Great Britain or Northern Ireland. Some years ago the reverse was the situation. Irish people look forward to their annual visit to their homeland to visit their families and friends. Now it is becoming a bit of a nightmare because once they step on to Irish soil at Dún Laoghaire, Dublin Airport, Cork Airport, or Shannon Airport, they can see the grim reality of the economic policies of the Government staring them in the face.

The amenity grants introduced some years ago by Fianna Fáil have been withdrawn. This helped local communities improve facilities in their area and made them more attractive to tourists. I recall many useful projects started in Country Galway under this scheme. There were many more on the drawing board which had to be scrapped because the Government decided to terminate those grants. I do not believe those grants were costing the Government a lot of money. It was a pity they were withdrawn because many car parks, improved bathing facilities and so on were provided in tourist areas.

I do not expect it can ever be measured how much harm the Government's declaration of a state of emergency in the country has done. People living in Europe who hear that there is a state of emergency here would not be very happy about coming to spend a holiday. The average Irishman would not feel like going to a country where a state of emergency operated.

I should like to compliment Bord Fáilte on the National Tourist Development Plan 1976-80, which they have produced. This is an excellent plan. They have tried to come to grips with the many problems as they see them. They have offered suggestions how those problems might be overcome and how tourist facilities can be improved in the various regions. That plan cannot bear fruit unless adequate funds are made available at local and national level to enable Bord Fáilte to put it into operation.

The total expenditure for those plans is something in the region of £50 million over the next five years. So far as I recollect, about £30 million will be provided by Bord Fáilte. The balance will have to be provided by the local authorities and other bodies interested in the promotion of tourism. I hope that money will be forthcoming and that Bord Fáilte will be able to push ahead with their plans to develop this very important industry.

One criticism I would offer is that they tend to concentrate their attention too much on areas with natural amenities. This was highlighted recently at a meeting of Galway County Council when Ireland-West submitted a programme to the council offering in the region of £20,000 for small amenity schemes if the council backed their proposal £ for £. All those schemes were located in the Connemara area which, as we all know, has many natural amenities. We agreed to give Ireland-West this money. We felt that since we had supported the other amenity schemes it was important to avail of this offer by Bord Fáilte to ensure that this necessary work was carried out.

We were disappointed that some of the work was not done in the eastern part of the country where there are areas which could be developed. When Bord Fáilte or Ireland-West come to us again for money, I hope they will submit a scheme for the other part of the country and no doubt we will give them whatever help we can by way of a supplementary grant, as we did on this occasion. There are many more areas in the west which require the attention of Bord Fáilte, areas which are not as fortunate from a natural amenity point of view, which could be made more attractive for tourists if an-all out effort were made to provide facilities, to develop the amenities, to provide the right type of hotel and guesthouse and the right type of entertainment for visitors. This type of activity creates employment, particularly during the summer season when so many school leavers are anxious to get employment.

The western region has been very fortunate in the past in having a large labour pool to draw on especially for seasonal operations in hotels and other forms of accommodation and for servicing other tourists products. The hotel and catering school at the Regional Technical College in Galway provides an excellent service as a training centre for all sections of the accommodation industry. The provision of a four-year management course will ensure that in future a pool of trained personnel will be available to the accommodation industry in the region and in the country as a whole.

I was disappointed that the students who were attending this catering school in Galway and who were promised a degree were denied that degree. That was a shame. I know it is not in the area of the Minister for Transport and Power but I would ask him to have a word with his colleague the Minister for Education——

He is not in the area either.

——to ensure that those students who were promised a degree will get what they were promised. They were very disappointed. I felt very sad for them on the day they hoped to receive their degree but it turned out to be a diploma. Naturally they did not accept it. In the interests of the industry it is important that those students should be encouraged to enter this profession as a career. They were promised a degree and the Government should stand by that promise.

One matter in regard to which we must all be very careful—and it has become more noticeable in recent years—is the danger of pollution to our lakes and rivers. We have some very valuable lakes and rivers from the tourism point of view and therefore valuable to the national economy. People can come and fish those lakes and rivers freely and be assured of good entertainment. It is important that we should be on the alert against pollution. Public bodies who have an interest in this matter should be most careful. So far the western region has not been over-industrialised and there was no great danger of pollution but with the advent of industrialisation it is evident that certain industries will be located there which will discharge pollutants. Every effort should be made to reduce to the minimum the danger of this happening. Recently we heard criticism offered by Mr. Lally about the location of industry in Killala. When those industries are being located, every effort should be made to ensure they will not cause pollution.

I am sorry to interrupt the Deputy, but these are very concerned people. The county council, the Industrial Development Authority and the Institute for Research and Standards are involved. They will ensure there is no danger of pollution. The conditions attached to the planning will ensure that there is no such danger in local areas.

I am glad to hear that from the Minister.

I am sure the Deputy will back that policy on the Galway County Council.

I certainly will. I spoke about it here when the water pollution Bill was going through. Sufficient funds were not made available to local authorities to check this kind of activity.

Debate adjourned.
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