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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 24 Oct 1979

Vol. 316 No. 4

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - British Social Security Payments.

29.

asked the Minister for Social Welfare if he has any responsibility in the administration of the payment in Irish currency of British-based and funded old age pensions and if it is proposed to have such pensions paid in their true international currency value as expressed in the daily quoted rate of Irish pounds against British pounds sterling or alternatively whether it is proposed to maintain at a constant level a direct exchange of value between British old age pensions and Irish old age pensions without making any allowance for fluctuations in the value of the currency of the Irish pound and British pound sterling.

30.

asked the Minister for Social Welfare the progress, if any, made to date in the discussions between the Irish and British authorities concerning the encashment of British social security cheques drawn on British funds and payable in Irish post offices; and if he is aware of the very considerable resentment of many thousands of such pensioners who are unable to obtain the full value of the currency of their cheques.

31.

asked the Minister for Social Welfare if he will investigate the circumstances under which persons living in the Republic who are in receipt of pensions from the British Ministry of Health and Social Security and which are made out in £ sterling are being paid in our currency without allowing for the difference in exchange rates and are thus being denied the full value of their pensions.

32.

asked the Minister for Social Welfare if discussions with the United Kingdom officials on the level of payment to United Kingdom pensioners living in Ireland through the Post Office have been concluded and if so, the arrangements being made with retrospective effect, for conversion of sterling payments into Irish pounds.

With the permission of the Ceann Comhairle I propose to take Questions Nos. 29 to 32, inclusive, together.

As I stated in reply to previous questions on this subject before the summer recess, discussions took place between officials of my Department, the Department of Posts and Telegraphs and the British Department of Health and Social Security about the problems of paying Irish pensions in Britain and British pensions in Ireland following the break in parity between the British and Irish currencies. As neither the British nor the Irish post offices operate a currency conversion service the following arrangements have been agreed.

British pensioners resident in Ireland will be paid their pensions in sterling by payable orders cashable through banks with effect from 15 October 1979. The pensioners concerned are being notified individually of these arrangements by the British Department of Health and Social Security. In the meantime, as an interim arrangement, Irish post offices continued to cash British pensions at face value up to 12 October 1979.

As regards the amount by which British pensioners have been underpaid at post offices by reason of receiving one punt for each pound sterling, arrangements have been made to compensate them fully for the difference in the exchange rates between the Irish and British currencies for the period April to mid-October 1979. This payment is being made this month at post offices. Similarly, since the beginning of August Irish pensioners residing in Britain are being paid by cheque cashable at banks at the prevailing exchange rate.

In welcoming the Minister's positive and clearcut reply might I ask him if he could explain to me—from my hearing of his reply—why the retrospective date extends only as far as April and not back to the actual break in the link with sterling?

Because I think that was when they began to diverge. Anyway we have calculated that it will be the full amount due.

From the date of divergence?

Yes, there will be no loss.

So that I can inform constituents who have been in contact with me that there will be no loss, that there will be no gap, in other words?

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