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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 21 Feb 1991

Vol. 405 No. 5

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Source of BSE.

Roger T. Garland

Question:

15 Mr. Garland asked the Minister for Agriculture and Food with regard to the recent slaughter of almost 2,000 cattle which had been exposed to BSE, if he has any investigation ongoing or plans for such into the relationship of feeding practices, such as (a) grain and pellet as against grass feeding and (b) the incidence of BSE in recent reports from England which indicate the deficiency of essential fats in animals which are not allowed to graze sufficiently as grass has a high level of essential fatty acids necessary for brain cell development.

There have been 32 cases of BSE in Ireland since January 1989, and I assume the Deputy is referring to the animals in the herds which have been voluntarily depopulated for trading reasons even though they were not infected with BSE. All the evidence available indicates that there is no indigenous source of BSE in Ireland.

BSE is a relatively new disease of individual animals and there is no evidence of animal to animal transmission. I have put in place a very comprehensive series of control measures including the banning of the importation of bovine animals and of meat and bonemeal from the UK and the prohibition of the feeding of even domestically produced meat and bonemeal to ruminants.

Research is continuing particularly in the UK as to its possible origin. To date the accepted theory is that the inclusion of meat and bonemeal in ruminant rations has been a factor and for that reason I banned the feeding of ruminant material to ruminant animals.

The theory advanced by a source in the UK that the substitution of animal protein for grass in feed has increased the vulnerability of bovines to diseases of the brain such as BSE has not gained general acceptability in scientific circles.

While I do not intend to initiate any specific investigation into feeding practices here, I can assure the House that the outcome of the general on-going research into BSE will be considered in my Department's continuous evaluations of our protection measures. I should also point out that even prior to the ban on the feeding of animal proteins to ruminants, their use here for that purpose was minimal. Natural grazing and silage has constituted 97 per cent of the traditional diet of the native herd.

Would the Minister agree that the failure to control the spread of BSE in this country is extremely serious? As recently as 12 February there was a report in The Irish Times about the confirmation of a case of BSE in Waterford. When will this disease be eliminated? Over the months the Minister has been saying that it is under control but it is continuing to spread. What assurance have we got that BSE will be eliminated?

The report the Deputy referred to was published as a consequence of the deliberate policy on my part and that of the Government to make all facts publicly available. I do not want anybody to doubt that our status in this regard is absolutely free. We do not have an indigenous problem. In the period of almost two and a half years, out of a population of almost eight million cattle there have been 32 cases of BSE. The Deputy will have to recognise that that is not serious by any manner or means. If we were talking of these numbers in other instances it would be regarded as a trickle, which is what it is. Having regard to the nature of this disease, which is indigenous in other countries — I do not want to point a finger at those countries — the incubation period of which could be up to three years, I hope the Deputy will appreciate that his request for an assurance of an elimination of the disease is not a reasonable one.

The Minister stated that meat and bonemeal are the source of BSE and have been identified as such in a neighbouring country. Will the Minister outline any proposals in regard to examining the type of rendering plants now in use in this country as many of them are unable to meet the standards which were required 25 years ago? BSE is a new disease which has been blamed on the rendering industry.

A long time ago I banned the importation of meat and bonemeal from outside Ireland. In addition, even though we do not have an infected source at home I have also banned any feeding of meat and bonemeal from Ireland to ruminants, which means that ruminants will no longer be fed by ruminants. The Deputy may rest assured that there is control in this regard. I appreciate his concern because it is important to assure all markets of the actions we have taken. Finally, I banned the importation of any bovine herds from outside Ireland, which is very different from the actions of some of our colleagues in the European Community, who seem to have miraculously escaped the consequences of what is happening in Britain, even though they had not banned the importation of herds which we banned.

In relation to disease eradication, is the Minister aware of the widespread use of the drug cortisone among farmers and cattle dealers to conceal the visible signs of the presence of tuberculosis in animals? This is an on-going problem with obvious horrendous consequences. I ask the Minister to have the matter investigated as quickly as possible.

The Deputy is obviously referring to bovine TB.

I will look into the matter.

Is the Minister aware of the problem?

It does not arise now.

It does arise and I have told the Department that the consequences are horrendous and should be investigated.

In view of the fact that offal is no longer being used in the production of meat and bonemeal in this country, will the Minister say whether there are alternative uses for it instead of dumping it?

I am glad to say that, because of the status of our offal, our renderers are still exporting it to other countries who use it for feed. We are not prepared to do this because our standards are the highest in Europe. Most of it is being exported and I am told that the rendering industry is in a healthy and vigorous state. If there is a need to incinerate some of it, although I have no evidence of that, I am sure it will be done.

That disposes of Questions for today.

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