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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 21 Nov 1991

Vol. 413 No. 3

Ceisteanna — Questions. Oral Answers. - Social Welfare Means Tests.

John Browne

Question:

2 Mr. Browne (Carlow-Kilkenny) asked the Minister for Social Welfare if his attention has been drawn to the fact that the multiplicity of means tests for various social welfare benefits is (1) causing confusion amongst social welfare recipients, (2) a costly duplication of effort by social welfare officers and (3) creating a deterrent to employment creation in certain cases; if he will outline the progress, if any, which has been made towards producing a single means test for all social welfare schemes; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

The means test criteria are broadly similar for all social welfare schemes although there are variations in the manner in which some of the components, principally capital and income from earnings, are assessed. For example, the rules of means assessment in the case of widows, lone parents and the elderly are generally more favourable.

A considerable amount of progress has been made in informing social welfare recipients about the means test. The information leaflets on each of the schemes administered by the Department have been revised. These leaflets contain detailed information in relation to each scheme, including comprehensive information on the means assessment provisions.

Under the arrangements for localisation of the services of my Department, the objective is to allow for the service to be co-ordinated to that duplication of procedures such as means tests for unemployment assistance and supplementary welfare allowance can be eliminated.

No question of creating a deterrent to employment arises in relation to social welfare means-tested schemes. In this regard particular employment incentives are provided under the lone parents allowance scheme. If a lone parent takes up employment £312 a year of the earnings of this lone parent is disregarded in respect of each child. Reasonable allowance is also made for child-minding and travelling expenses incurred by taking up a job.

The application of a single means test for all social welfare schemes would have significant costs. In line with the commitment in the Programme for Economic and Social Progress and the Programme for Government, however, the meanstesting arrangements will be kept under review with a view to their further simplification as resources permit.

(Carlow-Kilkenny): Will the Minister agree that, while it might appear initially that one means test would cost money, the present system whereby county councils, health boards and the Department of Social Welfare carry out means tests, must be the most expensive system of all? Will the Minister accept that one system of means testing could cover all schemes thus avoiding the necessity for three people to carry out tests? We must bear in mind the long delay between visits by social welfare officers and receipt of their reports. Far from being expensive it would save the nation much expense and frustration.

I can understand the Deputy's view on this matter. First, rationalisation, in some cases, may involve modifying some of the concessionary features of the means tests which apply to some of these schemes, otherwise it may become very expensive. Second, rationalisation may require easing the more restrictive features of certain schemes. Each applicant has individual needs and considerations which have to be taken into account. It is not easy to draw up a broad system of dealing with matters because, in certain cases, the particular circumstances of the person have to be taken into account. An overall system may not be the most advantageous in individual cases.

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