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Wednesday, 28 Apr 1993

Vol. 429 No. 7

Issue of Writs for By-Elections: Motion.

I move:

That the Ceann Comhairle direct the Clerk of the Dáil to issue his Writ for the election of a member to fill the vacancy which has occurred in the membership of the present Dáil consequent on the resignation of Deputy John O'Connell, a member for the Constituency of Dublin South-Central.

According to the rules of the House, only one motion may be moved. The second motion will be moved when the first one has been disposed of. I move this motion on behalf of Democratic Left. We put down these motions because we believe the people of the two constituencies concerned are entitled to full representation in the Dáil and because of the reluctance of the Government to fulfil its constitutional obligations in this regard. It is almost four months since the vacancy occurred in the Mayo West constituency and almost three months since Dr. O'Connell resigned his Dublin South-Central seat. We have raised the matter with the Taoiseach on the Order of Business on a number of occasions. When the matter was last raised before Easter, the Taoiseach said that the Government had no plans to move the writs. Unless the writs are passed by the Dáil within the next few weeks it will not be possible to have the elections held earlier than three weeks following the resumption of the Dáil in full session after the summer recess. This means that the elections could not be held before late October or early November. At that stage the Mayo West seat will have been vacant for ten months and the Dublin South-Central seat will have been vacant for almost ten months. There is no justification for leaving Dáil vacancies unfilled for such a long period. Democratic Left believes that the end of May would be the most appropriate time to hold these elections, with the long evenings and before the holiday and examination periods begin.

The principle of equality of representation in the Dáil is clearly enshrined in the Constitution and any failure to hold by-elections——

I am sorry to interrupt the Deputy, but there is an element of noise in the vicinity of the Chamber which is a source of disruption to our proceedings.

Consultation with Ministers is underway.

There are many of them.

The principle of equality of representation in the Dáil is clearly enshrined in the Constitution and any failure to hold by-elections within a reasonable period of a vacancy occurring would be a breach of the spirit and, possibly, the letter of the Constitution. Under existing legislation, there is no requirement that the Government should move a writ within a specified time and these two vacancies could, theoretically, be left open until the next general election is held. This is clearly not satisfactory and this House should address the question of amending legislation so that all by-elections have to be held within a specified time.

I am aware that the two Government parties have publicly indicated their intentions of opposing our motions to move the writs, but I hope even at this late stage that the Taoiseach and Tánaiste will reconsider the scant regard they are showing for the democratic rights of people in the constituencies concerned. Their refusal to consider holding these by-elections or even to give any date as to when they might be held is in stark contrast to the position adopted by both parties when in Opposition. For example, when Kieran Doherty died on 4 August 1981, Fianna Fáil moved a motion for the writ on 21 October. Following the death of George Colley on 17 September 1983, Fianna Fáil moved a writ on 2 November. The following year Fianna Fáil waited only five weeks before attempting to move the writ following the death of Ber Cowen.

The suggestion that the elections may be deferred until 1994 because of Fianna Fáil's difficulties in getting a candidate for the Dublin South-Central constituency is particularly outrageous. This will mean that both seats will be vacant for close to or more than a year. Avoiding by-elections for party political reasons should not be acceptable in our parliamentary democracy. In the past, Governments have, on occasion, opposed motions to move writs because they argued by-elections should be deferred and held in conjunction with general elections, local elections or European elections which were pending. The next elections due to be held here are the European elections of summer 1994. Surely the Government is not contemplating deferring the by-election until then?

The Taoiseach's comment about a by-election interrupting the work schedule of the Dáil could be taken more seriously if his Government had not forced through a motion for the Dáil to close for a full week simply because St. Patrick's Day fell on a Wednesday. In fact by-elections would result in the Dail losing one sitting day only.

How can the Tánaiste reconcile the statement of his spokesperson to the effect that the matter is not even on the agenda with the lavish promises given in the Programme for Government under the heading "Principal Objectives":

...To restore confidence in the democratic process, by encouraging openness and participation at all levels, by improving public accountability, transparency and trust, and by ensuring the highest standards in public life;

Irrespective of the extent of the majority a Government may have in the Dáil or indeed its performance in office, there is a right to have Dáil vacancies filled within a reasonable period of time. However, where the parties in Government within such a short space of time so spectacularly failed to live up to their pre-election promises there is a particular obligation to allow people to express their views on the record of the Government when vacancies arise.

The sense of public disappointment with the Government, only 100 days after being elected with the largest majority in the history of the State, is virtually unprecedented. Therefore, it is not surprising that this administration is already running for cover and afraid to put its programme to public test.

The unemployed, who looked to the Government to honour its commitment to put the country back to work, have looked on in disbelief as the live register figures remained virtually static and the Government passed up the opportunity presented by the latest budget to introduce imaginative job creation initiatives. The disappointment with this Government has been compounded by the manner in which Labour Party Ministers have packed their Departments with advisers, managers and handlers drawn largely from the ranks of their party.

Those on social welfare, who expeted the Labour Party to honour its promises to have the dirty dozen social welfare cuts reversed, feel betrayed as the majority of them remain in place and continue to cause hardship to those most in need. The Labour Party, particularly the Minister of State at the Department of Social Welfare, Deputy Burton, has contested my statement that most of the cuts remain in place. Perhaps she will accept the verdict of SIPTU, a union affiliated to the Labour Party, which pointed out in a statement on Friday last that four of the 12 cuts only had been eased and that two new cuts had been effected by this administration.

Unfortunately, in the social welfare area, it appears that the Government will continue to insist that black is white. What else can we make of the statement of the Minister for Social Welfare in this House last evening on the Adjournment Debate? He said:

Meanwhile, I want to emphasise that health boards have discretion to make payments in support of ESB and gas bills where they consider that circumstances warrant it.

This is simply not so and the Minister knows it. The McCreevy circulars have restricted the community welfare officers' discretion. They cannot now help with ESB bills except in exceptional circumstances, as defined in those circulars, which severely restrict the previous discretionary practices of those same community welfare officers. The Minister for Social Welfare and his Minister of State, Deputy Burton, know it, yet they continue to attempt to mislead the House. They do so because they know, in their cynical calculated way, that the people affected are poor, unorganised and marginalised. They have no power, no trade union and no protection in society. If my party and a handful of welfare groups did not consistently raise the matter, their plight would remain unnoticed. I intend to continue raising it because it is an injustice against the people already struggling to survive, who are being ignored by Government because they are poor and powerless.

The Labour Party in Opposition told us they were opposed to hospital charges, yet one of the first things the Minister for Health did was to increase those same charges. We were told the Labour Party was opposed to privatisation. It has already agreed to the sale of the remaining public share in Irish Life and it would appear that Greencore is about to go the same way. In addition, the equity injection so urgently needed by Aer Lingus is still being withheld. Indeed it appears that at least part of Aer Lingus is being prepared for privatisation.

If the Government has any confidence in its programme and performance surely it should be prepared to put them to the test in these two by-elections which would pose no threat to its majority in this House but would enable the electorate to pass judgment on their record to date.

I emphasise that the Democratic Left has a particular interest in the Dublin South-Central constituency where Councillor Eric Byrne, who was an outstanding Dáil representative for the people of that constituency, lost his seat by just four votes after the marathon recount in the last general election. We want to see him back in this House. More and more people in Dublin South-Central want to see him back in the Dáil to represent their interests. We are confident that he can take the seat in the by-election. Of course the parties in Government also realise that. Perhaps that is the main reason they are so reluctant to hold the by-election in that area.

This Coalition Government, comprised of Fianna Fáil and the Labour Party, has the largest majority in the House in the history of the State. They have plenty of Deputies available to keep the House going even if there was a by-election very soon. This issue — the availability of Deputies to keep the House going — is the only excuse offered by the Government to date for not holding the by-election. If a Government, with a majority of 38, cannot keep the House going and, at the same time, arrange for its case to be presented to the electorate of Dublin South Central and Mayo West, it is a very poor Government. I do not believe any other parliament in the world would postpone a by-election because the Government wanted to keep its Deputies in the House. To advance such an excuse for not holding the by-election is a commentary on the laziness, smugness and emptiness of this Coalition Government. Nobody but a Government as smug as this would advance such a lame excuse for not holding a by-election.

This Coalition Government of Fianna Fáil and Labour may have the largest majority in this House in the history of the State but it most assuredly is not the Government for which the Irish electorate voted last November. The people of Mayo West, Castlebar, Bangor Erris and Westport, and those in Dublin South-Central, Kimmage, Terenure, Drimnagh and Crumlin, deserve to be given a chance to strengthen the Opposition in the Dáil to this Government with a bloated majority. They deserve to be given the opportunity to vote for a party — Fine Gael — which sees its role in this House, and in the next Dáil, as one of replacing Fianna Fáil in Government, not just providing them with an alternative partner because it is tired of its existing partner. The only party that guarantees, through its votes in this House, to change the Government rather than simple provide it with a new partner is the Fine Gael Party. All the other parties in this House, with the exception of Democratic Left, have indicated that they have been in the past or would in the future, be willing to coalesce with Fianna Fáil and put them back in office. If the people of Drimnagh and Mayo West want to see a change of Government, as distinct from a new partner for Fianna Fáil, their only guarantee is through a vote for Fine Gael because Fine Gael alone is determined to replace this Government rather than simply provide it with a new partner. That is why I ask for an early test of this Government in a by-election, so that the electorate will be afforded an opportunity to elect two Deputies committed to change, to replacing this Government rather than simply propping it up.

It is a Government of high taxation because it cannot make up its mind to do anything difficult. The budget, which is still before this House, is the best possible example of the sort of political dynamic we will have in this Government because that budget imposed extra VAT on clothing, something that is essential to normal life, extra VAT on hotel rooms to deter tourists from coming here; it imposed a 1 per cent across the board levy which falls especially heavily on the PAYE sector and a 2 per cent tax on even the smallest amount of money, even a council cottage, or a corporation dwelling which has been purchased or handed over by a mother or father to a son or daughter.

The reason all these items are being taxed is that neither party in a Government consisting of Fianna Fáil and the Labour Party will be able to keep spending under control so a week to ten days before budget day they will take the only remaining option available, that of increasing taxation. This year's budget is typical of the budgets we are going to have as long as Fianna Fáil and the Labour Party remain in Government together. The people of Dublin South Central and Mayo West now have an opportunity to vote against a Government of high taxation and to replace it by voting for Fine Gael.

This is also a Government which centralises power. It does deals behind closed doors and sets a bad example for business by the way it conducts its own business. The programme under which £8 billion of European money will be spent is being drawn up behind closed doors by officials and politicans who are not consulting this House or the democratically elected representatives throughout the country and who are not debating the options in relation to the way in which this money should be spent. The Government is going to come up with its own plan and will distribute the money to be provided by European taxpayers as if it was largesse from the tables of individual Fianna Fáil and Labour Party backbenchers in particular constituencies. In other words, we have a Government which is cultivating a culture of dependency on political patronage in relation to the way in which this money will be spent. If we want to change this, to give power back to the people and create a culture of self-reliance instead of a spirit of dependency, then the way to do it is by voting for a party which is committed to cultivating a sense of self-reliance, namely, the Fine Gael Party.

The people of Mayo West and Dublin South Central are as concerned as the rest of us about the ongoing tragedy in Northern Ireland. I hope this combination of Fianna Fáil and the Labour Party has the capacity to make a contribution towards solving that problem. However, I have the gravest doubts about this because they seem to be paralysed by indecision when it comes to making any major move by way of a generous response from people on this side of the Border in order to break the logjam in the talks process. It seems that the Taoiseach and the Tánaiste are unable to make up their minds as to who is ultimately responsible for Northern Ireland policy. They have effectively paralysed each other in regard to making any generous gesture and indicating a willingness to change Articles 2 and 3 of the Constitution, if there is a settlement, to get the talks moving. As long as we have this coalition of paralysis in office we are not going to see movement or the urgency that should be shown on this side of the Border about the problems of Northern Ireland.

Some Members of this House seem to think that the problem is now so serious that it cannot possibly get worse, but let me warn them that it can get much worse. I do not believe that either the Taoiseach or the Tánaiste can see the gravity of the situation or have demonstrated to date the necessary generosity of spirit to reach an accommodation with the other tradition on this island. This is another reason the people of Dublin South Central and Mayo West should be given an opportunity to send a message to this House and reduce by two the bloated majority of the Government. They should send a message that they want leadership from the Government on the issue of Northern Ireland, not historical recidivism and revisionism, references to the 1920 Government of Ireland Act, or the old, tired slogans more appropriate to party political platform in 1948 rather than in 1993.

If we wish to see movement towards a Government which is not a Government of high taxation, which decentralises power and gives the people an opportunity to have a say in relation to the way EC money should be spent, and which is committed to progress in Northern Ireland because it recognises that both communities are of equal concern to us on this side of the Border, then the people of Dublin South Central and Mayo West can bring this closer by voting to reduce the excessive majority of the Government and, in particular, for the only party which is clearly willing to replace Fianna Fáil in Government rather than provide them with a new partner, namely the Fine Gael Party. For those reasons on behalf of my party I confidently and firmly support the motions to have the writs moved and if the Government succeeds in defeating them on this occasion, I will be willing to support them whenever they are moved.

The Progressive Democrats are happy to support these two motions and will vote for them. If the Government opposes them — and I assume it will, although it has not yet spoken on the matter — with its enormous majority it will prevail, as it will on everything else in this House. The size of the Government's majority, to which the two previous speakers referred, is one of the most relevant aspects in the attempt to have the writs moved. The size of the majority is unprecedented and the Government can more or less get away with almost anything it likes in this House. Its majority stands at over 30 and the fact that there are two vacancies makes no difference. If the Government were to lose both seats when the by-elections are held it would make no difference, because the majority would still be the highest in the history of the State. The Government does not therefore have the excuse which would sometimes be used by a Government that it cannot spare the manpower to contest the by-elections. It has ample manpower to continue the normal work of Government.

The Taoiseach's explanation that they have much work to do and do not want to be diverted by by-elections has no foundation in fact or in reason. It would be perfectly feasible to hold these by-elections and continue the normal work of Government. Many previous Governments held by-elections when it did not suit them — in some cases at a time when they had a majority as small as one — and they were still able to conduct the affairs of the country. It is entirely fallacious to suggest that in some way the Government would be diverted from the national tasks which must be faced. Indeed in the year I entered this House there were five if not six by-elections, and I contrast this with the fact there has not been a by-election during this or the previous Dáil, I think, during the Dáil prior to that. We have gone through an abnormally long period——

We are living longer.

——without any by-election being held. Apart from the Minister of State, I am glad to see that the only representative on the Government side of the House is Deputy Briscoe, who must have mixed feelings about these writs. He jumped the gun in announcing his retirement.

He should run again.

I am sure he is wondering what he is supposed to do now in view of the developments which have taken place——

We have other plans.

——since he made that momentous announcement which had such deep reverberations for the future of Irish democracy.

He is going to set up a consultancy. That seems to be the thing to do now.

Europe will benefit from my presence.

The Deputy should run again in the by-election.

Many people in this House could take advice from him on how to survive. He is not a bad survivor.

I come from a long line of survivors.

The size of the Government majority is very unhealthy and stifles meaningful debate in this House. Because of the numbers involved they can simply steamroll anything that is brought before the House irrespective of the merits of the arguments made. In these two by-elections the people will get an opportunity to express their views on what has been going on over the past 100 days. The people have very strong views on this matter. They will not get the opportunity to change the Government — even though a majority may wish to reconsider what they did at the last general election where they were so notably misled as to the meaning of the word "change", the buzz word on that occasion. They will not get the opportunity to change the Government but they will get an opportunity to make a protest at the ballot box and at least change the membership of two of the seats in this House.

Mayo West is the largest three seat constituency in the country. It stretches over a distance of 110 miles, from a short distance north of Galway city right up beyond Belmullet. This constituency is disadvantaged in a number of respects and therefore has a great many problems. At present it is represented by two Deputies only and no matter how hard they work, it is very difficult for any two Deputies to give the kind of attention that is necessary in a constituency of that size.

The Constitution recognises that changes in population must be reflected in the make up of the constituencies. The Constitution lays down that those changes must take place at least once in every 12 years, but the courts have since laid down that the changes in population and changes in respresentation must be reflected more frequently than that. Since that principle has been laid down — I do not think anybody could disagree with it — the same principle applies that equality of representation be given as widely and as fairly as possible throughout the country. If circumstances give rise to a by-election, obviously it is not possible to fill the seats within a matter of weeks or even a month or so but it should be, and it is possible, to fill those seats within a reasonable period. Almost four months have elapsed since these vacancies arose. If these motions are not passed today it looks as if the earliest time at which the vacancies may be filled is next autumn. The House would hardly have the opportunity of making the arrangements to fill them before October, which will be ten months after the vacancies arose. That is a totally unreasonable period, particularly in a far flung and widespread rural constituency such as Mayo West, which is now represented by two Deputies only.

It seems remarkable that a Government that has a historically high majority should be so unwilling to face the people in these two constituencies. As I said already, Governments with a majority of one were prepared to take their chances in by-elections, sometimes where the very future of the Government was at stake. The future of this Government is not at stake but it simply gives the people in these constituencies an opportunity to elect a representative so that they have the normal level of representation instead of being deprived of it for an excessive length of time. The onus is on the Government to explain why it wants to deprive them of their representation for such an excessive length of time. It does not interfere with Government work in any way or with the various problems facing the country.

There is no valid reason that has been adduced to me as to why the by-elections should not be held. For that reason I urge those in the House who have any democratic feelings — in particular I address some of my remarks to the members of the Labour Party — to support these two motions today.

I wish to call a quorum as we do not seem to have any member of the Labour Party in the House.

A quorum has been called for and the Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach, Deputy Dempsey, will then reply.

Notice taken that 20 Members were not present; House counted and 20 Members being present,

To allay the fears of people on the Opposition benches in relation to facing the electorate in by-elections in Mayo West and Dublin South-Central, I wish to clarify that the Government will be opposing these two writs. The writs were moved, not because of any great conviction on the part of the Opposition parties that the people want to pass a verdict on the Government, but because it is becoming more apparent to members of the Opposition, particularly to members of the Democratic Left, that the policies of the Government are working and that it will succeed in tackling the very serious problems facing the country. The Opposition realises that the public, even at this early stage, see that the Government is working and tackling the problems that confront us. For that reason the Democratic Left and other parties opposite are afraid to wait a little longer for the by-elections.

I was interested in the comments in relation to this Government having the largest majority in the history of the State. The argument was made previously that, with such a majority, debate is stifled and Bills rammed through. The public, and indeed Members opposite, know that is not the way the Government operates. It has operated and will continue to operate within this House and with the social partners in a spirit of co-operation, dialogue and partnership. There is no threat to democracy or to the democratic institutions by the fact that we have such a large majority. The threat arises only if the Government becomes arrogant, smug, as mentioned by Deputy Bruton, but that will not happen.

While the Government welcomes full representation in constituencies, other matters must take priority. At the start of a new session of the Dáil, which promises to be one of the busiest in recent years, with important legislation to be passed, neither the House nor the public needs the distraction of by-elections. With such a majority we have no doubt that we will more than adequately run the business of the House. However, I have doubts about the Oppositions ability, if it is serious about holding the by-elections, to provide effective opposition during the course of such by-elections.

As Deputies will see in the coming week, about 15 to 20 Bills need to be discussed in this session, the principal ones being the Finance Bill and the Bill to implement the recommendations of the Culliton report. These are two major Bills which must receive our full and undivided attention. For that reason it would be wrong to agree at this stage to holding by-elections in the two constituencies concerned. As regards the concern expressed in relation to the people in both constituencies being adequately represented, Fianna Fáil has always given a first class service to the people of Mayo West and Dublin South-Central, as proved in elections there over the years. I have no doubt that the organisations and the public representatives in both these areas will continue to provide a good service to these constituencies.

In relation to the general points made about the budget and the performance of the Government, contrary to Deputy Bruton's remarks about the Government being paralysed, it has shown itself to be active and giving a lead in regard to change, as promised at the outset. The argument was made previously by Deputy Bruton that the people did not vote for the Fianna Fáil-Labour Government in the last general election.

However, 60 per cent of people voted for Fianna Fáil and Labour Deputies, fewer than 25 per cent voted for Fine Gael and fewer than 40 per cent voted for all other parties combined. If the people did not vote for a Fianna Fáil-Labour Government, my mathematics are wrong.

On the point by Deputy Bruton about tired slogans being used by the Government in relation to Northern Ireland, the Government's policy has been enunciated time and again in this regard. We all know from where the tired slogans come in relation to Northern Ireland, not from this side of the House and, in many cases, not from this side of the Border. The Government is committed to a programme of change and to tackling the issues of Northern Ireland and unemployment, the two major issues facing us. At this early stage of a new session we should not be distracted from our work and, for that reason, we will oppose both motions in relation to the writs for the by-elections.

Question put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 45; Níl, 82.

  • Ahearn, Theresa.
  • Allen, Bernard.
  • Boylan, Andrew.
  • Bradford, Paul.
  • Browne, John (Carlow-Kilkenny).
  • Bruton, John.
  • Bruton, Richard.
  • Burke, Liam.
  • Clohessy, Peadar.
  • Connaughton, Paul.
  • Connor, John.
  • Cox, Pat.
  • Crawford, Seymour.
  • Cullen, Martin.
  • Deenihan, Jimmy.
  • De Rossa, Proinsias.
  • Doyle, Avril.
  • Dukes, Alan M.
  • Durkan, Bernard J.
  • Finucane, Michael.
  • Fitzgerald, Frances.
  • Flaherty, Mary.
  • Flanagan, Charles.
  • Foxe, Tom.
  • Gilmore, Eamon.
  • Harney, Mary.
  • Higgins, Jim.
  • Hogan, Philip.
  • Kenny, Enda.
  • Keogh, Helen.
  • Lowry, Michael.
  • McCormack, Pádraic.
  • McGinley, Dinny.
  • McGrath, Paul.
  • McManus, Liz.
  • Molloy, Robert.
  • Nealon, Ted.
  • Noonan, Michael (Limerick East).
  • O'Donnell, Liz.
  • O'Keeffe, Jim.
  • O'Malley, Desmond J.
  • Quill, Máirín.
  • Rabbitte, Pat.
  • Sheehan, P.J.
  • Yates, Ivan.

Níl

  • Ahern, Bertie.
  • Ahern, Dermot.
  • Ahern, Michael.
  • Ahern, Noel.
  • Aylward, Liam.
  • Bell, Michael.
  • Bhamjee, Moosajee.
  • Bhreathnach, Niamh.
  • Bree, Declan.
  • Brennan, Matt.
  • Brennan, Séamus.
  • Briscoe, Ben.
  • Broughan, Tommy.
  • Browne, John (Wexford).
  • Burton, Joan.
  • Callely, Ivor.
  • Collins, Gerard.
  • Costello, Joe.
  • Hyland, Liam.
  • Jacob, Joe.
  • Kavanagh, Liam.
  • Kemmy, Jim.
  • Kenneally, Brendan.
  • Kenny, Seán.
  • Killeen, Tony.
  • Kirk, Séamus.
  • Lawlor, Liam.
  • Lenihan, Brian.
  • Leonard, Jimmy.
  • McCreevy, Charlie.
  • McDaid, James.
  • McDowell, Derek.
  • Moffatt, Tom.
  • Morley, P.J.
  • Moynihan, Donal.
  • Mulvihill, John.
  • Nolan, M.J.
  • Ó Cuív, Éamon.
  • O'Donoghue, John.
  • O'Hanlon, Rory.
  • O'Keeffe, Batt.
  • Coughlan, Mary.
  • Cowen, Brian.
  • Davern, Noel.
  • Dempsey, Noel.
  • de Valera, Sile.
  • Doherty, Sén.
  • Ellis, John.
  • Ferris, Michael.
  • Fitzgerald, Brian.
  • Fitzgerald, Eithne.
  • Fitzgerald, Liam.
  • Flood, Chris.
  • Foley, Denis.
  • Gallagher, Pat.
  • Geoghegan-Quinn, Máire.
  • Haughey, Seán.
  • Higgins, Michael D.
  • Hughes, Séamus.
  • O'Keeffe, Ned.
  • O'Leary, John.
  • O'Rourke, Mary.
  • O'Shea, Brian.
  • O'Sullivan, Gerry.
  • O'Sullivan, Toddy.
  • Pattison, Séamus.
  • Penrose, William.
  • Power, Seán.
  • Quinn, Ruairí.
  • Reynolds, Albert.
  • Ryan, Eoin.
  • Ryan, John.
  • Shortall, Róisín.
  • Smith, Brendan.
  • Spring, Dick.
  • Stagg, Emmet.
  • Taylor, Mervyn.
  • Treacy, Noel.
  • Upton, Pat.
  • Wallace, Dan.
  • Wallace, Mary.
  • Walsh, Eamon.
Tellers: Tá, Deputies Gilmore and McManus; Níl, Deputies Dempsey and Ferris.
Question declared lost.

I move:

That the Ceann Comhairle direct the Clerk of the Dáil to issue his Writ for the election of a member to fill the vacancy which has occurred in the membership of the present Dáil consequent on the resignation of Deputy Pádraig Flynn, a member for the constituency of Mayo West.

Question put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 46; Níl, 80.

  • Ahearn, Theresa.
  • Allen, Bernard.
  • Boylan, Andrew.
  • Bradford, Paul.
  • Browne, John (Carlow-Kilkenny).
  • Bruton, John.
  • Bruton, Richard.
  • Burke, Liam.
  • Clohessy, Peadar.
  • Connaughton, Paul.
  • Connor, John.
  • Crawford, Seymour.
  • Cullen, Martin.
  • Deenihan, Jimmy.
  • De Rossa, Proinsias.
  • Doyle, Avril.
  • Dukes, Alan M.
  • Durkan, Bernard J.
  • Finucane, Michael.
  • Fitzgerald, Frances.
  • Flaherty, Mary.
  • Flanagan, Charles.
  • Foxe, Tom.
  • Gilmore, Eamon.
  • Harney, Mary.
  • Higgins, Jim.
  • Hogan, Philip.
  • Kenny, Enda.
  • Keogh, Helen.
  • McCormack, Pádraic.
  • McDowell, Michael.
  • McGahon, Brendan.
  • McGinley, Dinny.
  • McGrath, Paul.
  • McManus, Liz.
  • Molloy, Robert.
  • Nealon, Ted.
  • Noonan, Michael (Limerick East).
  • O'Donnell, Liz.
  • O'Keeffe, Jim.
  • O'Malley, Desmond J.
  • Quill, Máirín.
  • Rabbitte, Pat.
  • Sargent, Trevor.
  • Sheehan, P.J.
  • Yates, Ivan.

Níl

  • Ahern, Bertie.
  • Ahern, Dermot.
  • Ahern, Michael.
  • Ahern, Noel.
  • Aylward, Liam.
  • Bell, Michael.
  • Bhamjee, Moosajee.
  • Bhreathnach, Niamh.
  • Bree, Declan.
  • Brennan, Matt.
  • Brennan, Séamus.
  • Briscoe, Ben.
  • Broughan, Tommy.
  • Browne, John (Wexford).
  • Burton, Joan.
  • Callely, Ivor.
  • Collins, Gerard.
  • Costello, Joe.
  • Coughlan, Mary.
  • Cowen, Brian.
  • Davern, Noel.
  • Dempsey, Noel.
  • de Valera, Síle.
  • Doherty, Seán.
  • Ellis, John.
  • Ferris, Michael.
  • Fitzgerald, Brian.
  • Fitzgerald, Eithne.
  • Fitzgerald, Liam.
  • Flood, Chris.
  • Foley, Denis.
  • Gallagher, Pat.
  • Geoghegan-Quinn, Máire.
  • Haughey, Seán.
  • Higgins, Michael D.
  • Hughes, Séamus.
  • Hyland, Liam.
  • Jacob, Joe.
  • Kavanagh, Liam.
  • Kemmy, Jim.
  • Kenneally, Brendan.
  • Kenny, Seán.
  • Killeen, Tony.
  • Kirk, Séamus.
  • Lawlor, Liam.
  • Lenihan, Brian.
  • Leonard, Jimmy.
  • McDaid, James.
  • McDowell, Derek.
  • Moffatt, Tom.
  • Morley, P.J.
  • Moynihan, Donal.
  • Mulvihill, John.
  • Nolan, M.J.
  • Ó Cuív, Éamon
  • O'Donoghue, John.
  • O'Hanlon, Rory.
  • O'Keeffe, Batt.
  • O'Keeffe, Ned.
  • O'Leary, John.
  • O'Rourke, Mary.
  • O'Shea, Brian.
  • O'Sullivan, Gerry.
  • O'Sullivan, Toddy.
  • Pattison, Séamus.
  • Penrose, William.
  • Power, Seán.
  • Quinn, Ruairí.
  • Reynolds, Albert.
  • Ryan, Eoin.
  • Ryan, John.
  • Shortall, Róisín.
  • Smith, Brendan.
  • Spring, Dick.
  • Stagg, Emmet.
  • Taylor, Mervyn.
  • Treacy, Noel.
  • Wallace, Dan.
  • Wallace, Mary.
  • Walsh, Eamon.
Tellers: Tá, Deputies Gilmore and McManus; Níl, Deputies Dempsey and Ferris.
Question declared lost.
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