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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 10 Jun 1993

Vol. 432 No. 2

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Information on EC Matters.

Pat Rabbitte

Question:

11 Mr. Rabbitte asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs if, in regard to the address by his Minister of State to Dáil Éireann on 2 April 1993 when he spoke of the need for the public to have greater access to information about the EC, its decision-making procedures and the significance of these decisions, he will give details of the steps, if any, which have been agreed by the interdepartmental European Affairs Committee to improve the situation; when these steps will be implemented; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

The interdepartmental European Coordination Committee, which the Minister of State, Deputy Tom Kitt, chairs has examined the question of the improvement of public information on European Community matters and the committee has agreed on the terms of a report.

In general terms, the report concludes that the objective of an information strategy on European Community affairs should be to educate and to promote understanding, open communication, confidence, trust and a sense of involvement, participation and goodwill on the part of the general public towards the EC and towards the Government's policies on EC matters. The report covers a number of areas which can be summarised as follows. Government information on EC affairs should be delivered in clear and precise language; it should be presented in an objective and credible manner. There will be better liaison on information matters between Government Departments and the offices of the EC Commission and European Parliament in Dublin and with voluntary agencies such as the Irish Council of the European Movement and the Institute for European Affairs. There should be increased briefings of media representatives on aspects of EC business by Ministers and, where appropriate, by civil servants. Ministers, Departments and State agencies will be asked to have greater regard in their publicity activities to the EC dimension of their work. Greater use will be made of the EC logo and flag by Government agencies. The possibilities for the better dissemination of information via the media will be explored, particularly where local radio is concerned. The Joint Committee on Foreign Affairs could have a very important role in the dissemination of information through its proceedings and reports.

Would the Tánaiste agree that, apart from the question of information, one of the critical issues not just in Ireland but elsewhere in relation to the development of the European Community is the feeling that ordinary people are not involved in that process? While the proposals the Tánaiste has outlined might improve the image of the European Community, would he not agree that more openness and transparency with regard to Council meetings would be a major step forward in reassuring people about the decision making process and involving them to a greater degree in the discussions which take place at those meetings?

I have voiced that opinion on many occasions. It is important that people outside the political arena are involved in the European process. Difficulties have arisen in relation to the dissemination of information and access to information on Community business. This is a matter which is under discussion by the Council of Ministers and it is difficult to know if in fact the opening up of the Council meetings would of itself go any way towards solving the problems. The Deputy will be aware that the first meeting of the General Affairs Council this year was a televised session. The general conclusion afterwards was that it was not exactly the best way to make information available to the public. However, it is under review and I accept that we have to do everything possible to engage the public in European community affairs.

Would the Tánaiste agree that the principle of subsidiarity, which is spoken about at length in European circles, could be equally applied at home? Would he agree that we have a very centralised system of Government in this country and that people feel totally alienated from the political system because they feel no sense of involvement? Would the Tánaiste agree it is disgraceful that it took so long for the Government to publish even a summary of the ESRI report on the national plan on structural funding and that it was so difficult to force the Government into the House next week to debate the national plan for the spending of £8 billion of EC money on behalf of the people of Ireland over the next six or seven years? Would the Tánaiste also agree that he has missed an opportunity to give the sense of involvement he says he is seeking to promote in the community——

The Deputy is making a speech now.

Would the Tánaiste agree that in his quest for openness in Government he should have involved the people in the national planning process at local level rather than doing everything behind a veil of secrecy and acting like Santa Claus at the end of the year?

Before the by-elections and the European elections.

That is very observant, very astute. I would never want either to be behind a veil of secrecy or acting as Santa Claus, despite some remarks I read in the papers recently.

What about Farranfore?

The Deputy talks about alienation from the political process. From discussions I have had with European colleagues over the last number of months, I would say we are the most accessible politicians in the world either at governmental level or as Deputies.

The Tánaiste must be joking.

It is not old age pensioners we are talking about now.

We are talking about political clinics.

I am giving the Deputies my view. Access to Irish politicians is probably the best, certainly in the European system. The Deputy will be aware that the Minister of State in my office, also attached to the Department of Finance, for the first time a Government Minister ever did so, met all of the regional committees on the preparation of the national development plan relating to the Structural Funds. That was done and there will be a discussion in this House in relation to it. I have no difficulty with more information being made available by this House and by local authorities. In terms of subsidiarity, if there are things we can do at regional level or at national level, then they will be done at those levels, not at European level.

We had to extract that debate very painfully from the Government, like taking the teeth from a duck. Our Whip had to demand that debate.

I would like to defer the responses to Questions Nos. 19, 23, 37 and 45.

I wish to withdraw Question No. 37 but I will be endeavouring to have the subject matter of that question raised on the Adjournment.

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